Wait for it.

[Jonboy60]

Not saying anything,need to calm down first.Interested in who comes on here first to call for DW's head.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Me. Wilson out!!!

 

[moDtheGod]

Certainly not calling for his head, but what do we think about the substitutions today? Should we be looking to win it there with ten men? Or to hold on to a point and hope to nick a goal.

 

[Bladesman]

Not much he could do really.

He should of signed another defender a while a go but he just assumed the back 4 would not get injured or sent off.

 

[Hartley Hare]

I just can't believe it! Went down the shed at half time 2 - 0 up, thinking the game is in the bag, and we lose 3 -2!

Oh dear what a disaster.

HH

 

[SoccerCynic]

Not me...in managerial terms the people responsible for our demise are Robson,Blackwell, Speed and, to a lesser degree Adams.

 

[Bladesman]

Not me...in managerial terms the people responsible for our demise are Robson,Blackwell, Speed and, to a lesser degree Adams.

Although todays result is more so the Refs, Lowton and Maguire?

 

[Jon Bon]

Not Wilson's fault but he should rip shreds out of the players for thinking it was already in the bag at the start of the 2nd half. Too much bloody show-boating with fancy flicks and trying 30 yard shots. There were 3 occasions early in the 2nd half where Evans had the opportunity to square it to a Blade in the box but he shot from the most ridiculous angles. Could have and should have been out of sight before they scored their first.

 

[oldblade]

Certainly not calling for his head, but what do we think about the substitutions today? Should we be looking to win it there with ten men? Or to hold on to a point and hope to nick a goal.

All a bit unfortunate really. At the time that Hoskins and Beattie came on Huddersfield were still winning at Bury it may be that Wilson was aware of that and was anxious for them not to gain two points on us.

In hindsight hanging onto what we had would have preserved the status quo. But, we may well still have conceded another without making the substitutions. The way everything had gone pear shaped, that didn't seem unlikely!

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Not me...in managerial terms the people responsible for our demise are Robson,Blackwell, Speed and, to a lesser degree Adams.

I would say Adams played a very large part in getting us relegated. We weren't even in the relegation zone when he took over and how long did it take for him to register a win? The squad was not great, but I would say it should have been good enough to stay up.

 

[SoccerCynic]

Sorry OldBlade, cant agree. The rot set in over a long period. The style was set by Blackwell and the writing was on the wall given the style and quality of play. It got no better under Speed and Adams inherited the poison chalice. I dont absolve him entirely. We had a succession of managers over a short period not helped when Speed chickened out after 18 matches. Adams only had 23 to turn round a totally demoralised squad devoid of any class.

 

[oldblade]

Sorry OldBlade, cant agree. The rot set in over a long period. The style was set by Blackwell and the writing was on the wall given the style and quality of play. It got no better under Speed and Adams inherited the poison chalice. I dont absolve him entirely. We had a succession of managers over a short period not helped when Speed chickened out after 18 matches. Adams only had 23 to turn round a totally demoralised squad devoid of any class.

I agree that things had been getting steadily worse for quite some time, and our financial decline was certainly not Adams' fault. However, I don't believe the squad was totally demoralised at the time of Adams appointment. Performances hadn't been great (under statement!), but we never went on a prolonged non winning streak. The longest run of games without a win was 4, until Adams was appointed, then we went on a substantial run of winless matches.

There was obviously quite a lot wrong at the club last season, but I do feel Adams could and should have kept us up.

 

[Deleted member 875]

Not saying anything,need to calm down first.Interested in who comes on here first to call for DW's head.

Why are you interested in the first who comes on in here calling for DW's head?

We lost, had a bad day all round, but its just one game we have lost, still got 13 games to play and hopefully seal promotion, so why would anyone come on here and call for DW's head, unless your after a bit of attention, which you have now got.

 

[Guesty]

Definitely not calling for Wilson's head, the man has worked absolute wonders. But as for "it's just one game", it's a very bloody costily one, our entire first choice back four out in one afternoon! And it shows we're not much without MacDonald, two defeats and two unconvincing defeats since he got injured.

 

[oldblade]

Definitely not calling for Wilson's head, the man has worked absolute wonders. But as for "it's just one game", it's a very bloody costily one, our entire first choice back four out in one afternoon! And it shows we're not much without MacDonald, two defeats and two unconvincing defeats since he got injured.

I think the fact that it was one of our home games makes it more costly because we don't actually have many home games left and we really need to win them. We have a big imbalance between number of home games played and number of away games played which I feel gives a slightly artificial look to our points advantage over the sides below us.

 

[Guesty]

What have we got, five at home and eight away remaining? Plus midweek we're probably going to have to play Morgan, a YTS kid and a couple of blokes from the crowd at the back.

 

[BladeFisher]

post: 395664"]Why are you interested in the first who comes on in here calling for DW's head?

We lost, had a bad day all round, but its just one game we have lost, still got 13 games to play and hopefully seal promotion, so why would anyone come on here and call for DW's head, unless your after a bit of attention, which you have now got.

Well not exact;y is it? It is P3 W1 D0 L2 F4 A5 Pts 3 not exactly promotion form, nor is it manager sacking form either but Wilson and squad need a rocket or else its Pigs up (you can read the script) and we're left in the shite...

 

[bartman]

Why not chose the form over the last ten games....shows a different scenario. You can make stats say want you want if you look hard enough but the most important one is that we are second. We have 3 away games coming up and 6 points from them will see us OK

 

[BladeFisher]

I tend to go with momentum, and 3 games is a better guide than the last 10, particularly since we are without MacDonald.

 

[SoccerCynic]

I agree that things had been getting steadily worse for quite some time, and our financial decline was certainly not Adams' fault. However, I don't believe the squad was totally demoralised at the time of Adams appointment. Performances hadn't been great (under statement!), but we never went on a prolonged non winning streak. The longest run of games without a win was 4, until Adams was appointed, then we went on a substantial run of winless matches.

There was obviously quite a lot wrong at the club last season, but I do feel Adams could and should have kept us up.

Agreed. In fact I dont think we disagree on much, only the degree of responsibility. Adams should have kept us up but had Blackwell been replaced earlier and Speed showed some loyalty would we have survived. Maybe Speed saw that the challenge was too great. I just think its a bit like turning round the Titanic once the dye is cast.

 

[Jonboy60]

post: 395664"]Why are you interested in the first who comes on in here calling for DW's head?

We lost, had a bad day all round, but its just one game we have lost, still got 13 games to play and hopefully seal promotion, so why would anyone come on here and call for DW's head, unless your after a bit of attention, which you have now got.

Totally agree brownie,that's why I ask who is going to be the first on here to ask for DW's head,nowhere in my post do I allure to anything of the kind.As for attention seeking,yours truly over 100 posts,mr brownie over 3,000 need I say more.

 

[Silent Blade]

Not Wilson's fault but he should rip shreds out of the players for thinking it was already in the bag at the start of the 2nd half. Too much bloody show-boating with fancy flicks and trying 30 yard shots. There were 3 occasions early in the 2nd half where Evans had the opportunity to square it to a Blade in the box but he shot from the most ridiculous angles. Could have and should have been out of sight before they scored their first.

Fully agree some of the players, especially Ched, were looking for self-glory rather than playing in a professional way

 

[Deleted member 875]

Totally agree brownie,that's why I ask who is going to be the first on here to ask for DW's head,nowhere in my post do I allure to anything of the kind.As for attention seeking,yours truly over 100 posts,mr brownie over 3,000 need I say more.

It's completely pointless asking who was going to come on here first and call for DW's head, unless you wanted to stir up some trouble.

Thats attention seeking.

 

[dingledog]

It was completely down to our players lack of professionalism.. I'd have them all in for training tomorrow, they were a disgrace in the second half and made it easy for a complete wanker of a ref to lose the plot..

 

[Jonboy60]

So the fact that I asked the question first,rather than the more(should we say) established posters,and believe me they would have,I'm labeled an attention seeker.fair enough in future I'll just follow the dirge you post most of the time, and if I'm allowed,attention seeking apart, I'll chip in with the odd comment. Utb

 

[Deleted member 875]

You can say what you want.

I was just pointing it out it wasn't very productive asking who would be the first poster to call for DW's head.

 

[Jonboy60]

post: 395713"]You can say what you want.

I was just pointing it out it wasn't very productive asking who would be the first poster to call for DW's head.

Point taken.utb

 

[LSF]

Fully agree some of the players, especially Ched, were looking for self-glory rather than playing in a professional way

Ched was a strange contradiction today - No one can argue he has been the catalyst of our season and today he made the first goal with brute strength and perseverance and only him could have scored the second from the angle he shot from. But when we needed him most in the second half and down to ten men, he missed two gilt edged chances and at times seemed reluctant to chase, harry and close down from the front when Oldham were in possession. I found it odd he seemed to take his foot off the gas at times when we needed everyone to give that bit extra to make up for being short handed.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Sorry OldBlade, cant agree. The rot set in over a long period. The style was set by Blackwell and the writing was on the wall given the style and quality of play. It got no better under Speed and Adams inherited the poison chalice. I dont absolve him entirely. We had a succession of managers over a short period not helped when Speed chickened out after 18 matches. Adams only had 23 to turn round a totally demoralised squad devoid of any class.

Only 23.
That is half a season.
I think Adams is a total disgrace, what a shameful appointment he was.
But because he pretends hes a fan he gets accepted by fans til its too late.
Speed and Adams finished off Blackheads foul work.

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Ched was a strange contradiction today - No one can argue he has been the catalyst of our season and today he made the first goal with brute strength and perseverance and only him could have scored the second from the angle he shot from. But when we needed him most in the second half and down to ten men, he missed two gilt edged chances and at times seemed reluctant to chase, harry and close down from the front when Oldham were in possession. I found it odd he seemed to take his foot off the gas at times when we needed everyone to give that bit extra to make up for being short handed.

Yet again Evans shows his true mettle.
Even in league one he shows these deficiencies.

 

[super_pig]

>because we don't actually have many home games left
good .. the fans at the lane are a liability at the moment and after reading some of the posts on here i can see why

>It was completely down to our players lack of professionalism
the two players sent off are just young lads, you ought to cut them a bit of slack

 

[Rattly Noise]

post: 395664"]Why are you interested in the first who comes on in here calling for DW's head?

We lost, had a bad day all round, but its just one game we have lost, still got 13 games to play and hopefully seal promotion, so why would anyone come on here and call for DW's head, unless your after a bit of attention, which you have now got.

Because win, lose or draw there are still some that want him out and will take any opportunity to say so. Not me though. Wasn't happy with the appointment but i'm man enough to admit I was wrong.

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>because we don't actually have many home games left
good .. the fans at the lane are a liability at the moment and after reading some of the posts on here i can see why

>It was completely down to our players lack of professionalism
the two players sent off are just young lads, you ought to cut them a bit of slack

Think it's their inexperience that led to the lack of professionalism. Plenty of experienced players still do it, but the best players learn from mistakes and move on. Still think we've not seen the best of either of them and just hope we can hang on to them long enough to reap the rewards. But that's a whole different thread.