Brewster and McBurnie Charged

[mcbladeface]

What about the entire Forest fanbase that came on the pitch which is technically a criminal offense?

Mind you idiot Forest fans think they are as both as bad as the guy who headbutted Billy!

Incident Involving Billy Sharp

We can't possibly allow beer mate - everyone turns into a rioting animal after half a pint. I'll be strapped into my chair, where's the harm?

www.forestforum.co.uk

The guy that says that, cheapseats, is a tosser of eye watering magnitude. Go back through his posts in that thread and you see the size of the chip on his shoulder. One post that springs to mind starts with a mealy mouthed "no one is condoning what happened to Billy but" and then goes on to say it was all united players and staff's fault for goading the fans all night and then not running down the tunnel immediately.

 

[sheff_blade90]

fans should lose any right to a defence for the lack of a better word. if they didnt commit the illegal offence of entering the field of play. this wouldnt have happened

 

[Davalon]

Enda Stevens on Forest pitch invasion: We feared for our lives

Sheffield United's Enda Stevens says he feared for his life when fans invaded the pitch following their match against Nottingham Forest, with captain Billy Sharp assaulted by a supporter.

www.skysports.com

Note the statement from Stevens that the police were stood around doing nothing. Smacks of arse covering going on here. Players and coaching staff attacked. Assailants not charged yet those defending themselves are. Too easy for the CPS to pick out high profile football players.

EFL and FA completely silent on action to be taken against Florist FC for the cowardly assault on Sharp. Only mutterings of if it happens again we'll do something. PFA need to be all over this and insist sanctions are taken against Clubs now if players are prevented from defending themselves.

The whole football world and media applauded celebrity footballer Patrick Viera for carrying out an assault on an Everton fan. Yet little ole SUFC will not get a tenth of the coverage or support for our players.

Whilst I don't necessarily think the big wigs will care much, I'll be genuinely surprised if this doesn't cause some real concern amongst players and some clubs.

I know the PFA aren't much cop but I'd expect them to be watching this carefully.

I know people don't like saying much when there's an ongoing charge, understandably, but I'll be surprised and even more disappointed if there's not a lot of outside support here.

 

[BettingBlade]

A part of any Police, CPS or EFL assessment/decision to charge may hinge on what Rhian & McBurnie (and indeed Sharp) were doing there, on the pitch/sidelines themselves. After all, none of them were "footballers" that night, they weren't playing.

I was amazed at how many non-participants were just hanging around, not on the bench, there wasn't enough room, just hanging around. The defence could get a bit tricky if the legal process goes deep.

(Remember, Viera was directly involved in the game being played, and had to cross the pitch to get to the dressing room)

After pretty much every single game, players who arent involved in the match day squad or on the bench are in and around the playing area.

That is non unusual in the slightest and any forest fan who is using that excuse is completely fucking deluded.

 

[Brewster Cost £70 million]

Banning forest fans from the lane for future matches will just cause further issues as I'm pretty sure quite a few forest would just get tickets in our end

 

[Davalon]

A part of any Police, CPS or EFL assessment/decision to charge may hinge on what Rhian & McBurnie (and indeed Sharp) were doing there, on the pitch/sidelines themselves. After all, none of them were "footballers" that night, they weren't playing.

I was amazed at how many non-participants were just hanging around, not on the bench, there wasn't enough room, just hanging around. The defence could get a bit tricky if the legal process goes deep.

(Remember, Viera was directly involved in the game being played, and had to cross the pitch to get to the dressing room)

The players involved were on the bench during the game. I'm not aware of any rules that forbid injured players sitting on the bench.

I'm pretty sure any claim that medical booted McBurnie was there as an enforcer would look a tad silly.

Assaulting players playing....bad.

Assaulting players not playing....OK as they shouldn't have been on the pitch.

Doesn't wash for me unless they're seen invading the pitch from the stands and wading in.

 

[BLADES1988]

Retrospective charge for Clough??

 

[LudlamBlade]

Fuck the EFL, that is all

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Ridiculous decision. U-turn needed.

 

[Panini]

Banning forest fans from the lane for future matches will just cause further issues as I'm pretty sure quite a few forest would just get tickets in our end

Doesn't that risk already exist? They always sell out, so there must be plenty trying it on every year we play them.

More to the point, listen to someone who has lived abroad etc since the ticket rules were brought in. No tickets for a Forest game if you don't have points or a booking history. No home friendlies this summer to get on the database, either.

It's almost impossible but let's say it can always be done somehow, any Forest fans thinking of going in the Blades end given the current situation must be out of their minds.

It's not a perfect solution but my opinion is that a dozen Forest fans dotted around the ground would still be a better problem than 3000 of them within running distance of the pitch.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Obviously you've never been stitched up .

I've never been accused of anything by the police, irrespective of whether I've done it or not. If that's what you mean by "never been stitched up" then I suppose you're right.

 

[bibbity bobbity boo]

I hate to imagine what would have happened if we'd had Billy Whitehurst on the bench that evening.

 

[blades78]

Struggling with the questions about whether the players should have been there or not as though its some sort of justification that Forest friends could get in there faces and provoke the situation. Pretty sure if you are threatened, attacked in a pub, middle of the street or anywhere else the question of whether you should have been there is never asked. You've just seen a colleague headbutted and thousands of other people who could potentially do the same are heading towards you and your other colleagues/friends some aggressively and verbally abusing you. I'd be amazed if this went anywhere.

 

[Stevo]

As a result of this The Useless fucking EFL & FA must now dock points for any club who can not control their fans

 

[sheff_blade90]

A part of any Police, CPS or EFL assessment/decision to charge may hinge on what Rhian & McBurnie (and indeed Sharp) were doing there, on the pitch/sidelines themselves. After all, none of them were "footballers" that night, they weren't playing.

I was amazed at how many non-participants were just hanging around, not on the bench, there wasn't enough room, just hanging around. The defence could get a bit tricky if the legal process goes deep.

(Remember, Viera was directly involved in the game being played, and had to cross the pitch to get to the dressing room)

whereas i can agree on that view point like England penalty shootouts. alot of teams. coaches & non-participants are on the touchline in huddle

 

[Champagneblade]

The more you think about it the more absurd it is.

There were probably some 2,000 Forest fans invaded the playing surface illegally.

Yet the Old Bill has managed to charge one solitary Forest fan but 2 Sheffield United players.

It's comical. And what about Forest? They should be starting next season playing behind closed doors yet not a dicky bird about their handling of the event or their fans' behavior.

What an absolute joke.

 

[espoo blade]

Forest fans gloating about this on twitter is making me feel sick.

So they can run on the pitch and attack our players and face no consequences whatsoever? And then to rub salt in the wound the police charge two of our players.

I'm afraid we must take legal action against Nottingham Forest we can not allow this shit

Fuck me...I shouldn't have looked. Thought I was over it, but the anger is coming back now. This "stamping on their head" seems to be their stock line...repeat it often enough and it becomes the truth. In Forest fans little heads this is actually what happened.



And also that they don't see any connection with the thousands on the pitch with these incidents...mind-blowing.

I honestly can't fathom how they got to this decision. Did Brewster and McBurnie go into the stands hunting for this lad? And also I thought that the definition of self-defence was along the lines of "defence permitting reasonable force to be used to defend one's self or another". So the police didn't think that was the case here?

 

[blades78]

What have they been charged of? No mention of the actual offence.

 

[AnotherBlade]

The fat little cunt who went running to the Sun newspaper and who's accused them of assaulting him wants finding and filling in! His old man must be plod or something. Stitch up. World war 3 when we next play the bastards!

 

[Champagneblade]

Fuck me...I shouldn't have looked. Thought I was over it, but the anger is coming back now. This "stamping on their head" seems to be their stock line...repeat it often enough and it becomes the truth. In Forest fans little heads this is actually what happened.

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And also that they don't see any connection with the thousands on the pitch with these incidents...mind-blowing.

I honestly can't fathom how they got to this decision. Did Brewster and McBurnie go into the stands hunting for this lad? And also I thought that the definition of self-defence was along the lines of "defence permitting reasonable force to be used to defend one's self or another". So the police didn't think that was the case here?

There isn't a single video showing McBurnie making contact with that little dog botherer. There is one where he puts his one good leg aside him but that's it. If Brewster pulled him away from him and his mates then good. He had no right being there.

I bet he's still being breastfed "Bitty!". Weird little scrote.

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

Police must be listening to dozens and dozens of Forest fans who ‘witnessed’ ‘the assaults by the United players.

No obvious bias by the so-called witnesses there then.

 

[wavy-blade]

The Police are a disgrace , you get Pakistani men abusing children in Rotherham and they daren't do any thing about it because of racial tension , more like racial brainwashing in this woke world , then thousand's of forest fans come on to the pitch physically attack one of our players , and they charge 2 of our players , knob head coppers .

 

[BLADES1988]

The Police are a disgrace , you get Pakistani men abusing children in Rotherham and they daren't do any thing about it because of racial tension , more like racial brainwashing in this woke world , then thousand's of forest fans come on to the pitch physically attack one of our players , and they charge 2 of our players , knob head coppers .

They always refer to it as the Rotherham paedo scandal. When they should be referring to it as something else.

 

[Addison]

Whilst I don't necessarily think the big wigs will care much, I'll be genuinely surprised if this doesn't cause some real concern amongst players and some clubs.

I know the PFA aren't much cop but I'd expect them to be watching this carefully.

I know people don't like saying much when there's an ongoing charge, understandably, but I'll be surprised and even more disappointed if there's not a lot of outside support here.

We don't know what the charges are and I agree that will in the short term temper the scale of reaction. The PFA and players will be very concerned. I'm sure in time they will speak out.

Unfortunately it is the court of public opinion that sadly influences how these matters are progressed. Nottingham Police were quick to deal with Sharps assailant although he did turn himself in. Florist fans bombarded the Police twitter account demanding McBurnie be charged on the back of a grainy video in an attempt to deflect the bad publicity of the appalling Sharp incident. The alleged victim contacted the police and immediately went to the National newspapers to sell his story the next day. The media were happy to portray Mcb as a player with a previous record of unsavoury incidents and the despair of a fan who feared for his life. References were made to compensation. No mention in these articles was made of the fact he was carrying out a criminal offence in encroaching onto the pitch.

Fast forward a few days later to the Viera incident and there is universal condemnation across all media outlets of Vieras incident. Outrage is expressed at the lack of safety for players and coaching staff, who are being attacked. There are comparisons to Billys attack but complete radio silence on other SUFC players and staff. In fact I have come across only 1 journalist who has stated he saw a number of SUFC players and staff having to defend themselves.

One toe rag Florist journalist had the temerity to imply he witnessed Sharp and Mcb goading Florist fans during the game. That reference will have been noted by the CPS. His pal Jordan even referred to it on his radio show. Fortunately a number of ex pros shouted them down and others have since said he was sat too far back to have heard anything. Yet the narrative that Heckingbottom was also in part responsible for pitch invasions and assaults has been developed by some.

In Viera's case the Everton fan was met with a sea of outrage from his own supporters and decided not to take the matter further. Contrast that with the attitude of a number of Florist who are currently gloating at the fact charges are being pursued. You only have to read the responses from football fans around the country to the Florist fan Sun article to know there is zero sympathy for him all saying he shouldn't have been on the pitch.

The matter has to be pursued because a complaint was made. IMO it is the large scale local profile that has in part influenced the CPS to take this forward. Will there be any Florist fans charged for attacks on Blades players and staff? Have any been charged yet for launching smoke bombs into the away supporters end at full time? We await with interest considering Stevens statement.

Whilst there will be a few journalists that offer support I remain cynical that the National media will campaign for immediate sanctions against Clubs on the back of Brewster and Mcb's charges. If it was the likes Kane and Sterling who had been defending themselves then the noise would be deafening.

 

[bakeblade]

Much more convenient for the police to charge footballers than for them to go after fans illegally on the pitch.

Speaking of which, has there been any sort of investigation by the police, the FA or EFL into the safety issues at Forest that night?

Spot on, yet more evidence of the police conpletely losing the plot regarding proper policing. Burglarys, car thefts etc not interested.
Chance of a couple of easy high profile arrests, yes please we'll have some of that.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

I hate to imagine what would have happened if we'd had Billy Whitehurst on the bench that evening.

Wasn't Clough smacking his own fans the last time they invaded the pitch. Can't remember those pressing charges then or fearing for their lives.

I'm sure you all saw the video of Julius Francis hitting someone who'd been thrown out the bar in self-defence. That's absolutely no different to what Brewster did pulling a fan away and what McBurnie did is debatable.

 

[SwissBlade]

Spot on, yet more evidence of the police conpletely losing the plot regarding proper policing. Burglarys, car thefts etc not interested.
Chance of a couple of easy high profile arrests, yes please we'll have some of that.

Seems that theres a much wider issue of Police considering appeasement in this country at the moment. Do they stop and think with each case which will cause them the least hassle and then take that route, rather than upholding the law

 

[JimW1889]

Unless they've admitted it in the interviews (daft), or there's a different video that nobody has seen, I really can't see why they're prosecuting this.

 

[Davalon]

We don't know what the charges are and I agree that will in the short term temper the scale of reaction. The PFA and players will be very concerned. I'm sure in time they will speak out.

Unfortunately it is the court of public opinion that sadly influences how these matters are progressed. Nottingham Police were quick to deal with Sharps assailant although he did turn himself in. Florist fans bombarded the Police twitter account demanding McBurnie be charged on the back of a grainy video in an attempt to deflect the bad publicity of the appalling Sharp incident. The alleged victim contacted the police and immediately went to the National newspapers to sell his story the next day. The media were happy to portray Mcb as a player with a previous record of unsavoury incidents and the despair of a fan who feared for his life. References were made to compensation. No mention in these articles was made of the fact he was carrying out a criminal offence in encroaching onto the pitch.

Fast forward a few days later to the Viera incident and there is universal condemnation across all media outlets of Vieras incident. Outrage is expressed at the lack of safety for players and coaching staff, who are being attacked. There are comparisons to Billys attack but complete radio silence on other SUFC players and staff. In fact I have come across only 1 journalist who has stated he saw a number of SUFC players and staff having to defend themselves.

One toe rag Florist journalist had the temerity to imply he witnessed Sharp and Mcb goading Florist fans during the game. That reference will have been noted by the CPS. His pal Jordan even referred to it on his radio show. Fortunately a number of ex pros shouted them down and others have since said he was sat too far back to have heard anything. Yet the narrative that Heckingbottom was also in part responsible for pitch invasions and assaults has been developed by some.

In Viera's case the Everton fan was met with a sea of outrage from his own supporters and decided not to take the matter further. Contrast that with the attitude of a number of Florist who are currently gloating at the fact charges are being pursued. You only have to read the responses from football fans around the country to the Florist fan Sun article to know there is zero sympathy for him all saying he shouldn't have been on the pitch.

The matter has to be pursued because a complaint was made. IMO it is the large scale local profile that has in part influenced the CPS to take this forward. Will there be any Florist fans charged for attacks on Blades players and staff? Have any been charged yet for launching smoke bombs into the away supporters end at full time? We await with interest considering Stevens statement.

Whilst there will be a few journalists that offer support I remain cynical that the National media will campaign for immediate sanctions against Clubs on the back of Brewster and Mcb's charges. If it was the likes Kane and Sterling who had been defending themselves then the noise would be deafening.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

If the police are following the law you know there actual job not painting cars in LGBT rainbow stripes and policing the internet then why aren't the 10k fans receiving 3 year banning orders like every single other pitch invader ? Such as the lads who went on the pitch at QPR ?

Why is Patrick Viera not getting charged ?


The world has gone fucking mad only in this country could 10k run on a pitch antagonize and headbutt the opposing teams players then receive no punishment as a club eg stadium bans and then the players they harrassed get charged because Barry the dog nonce whisperer wants to press charges