bloody hell refs

[ForgeBlade]

We have ref's in the Premier League who are in their late 40's and one or two in their early 50's. Professional footballers start to struggle to keep up to speed by 35 so how can you expect someone around 50 to keep up with play? We need younger professional ref's or one in each half other sports have more than one ref without any issues.

Agreed. The problem is that there just aren't that many younger people prepared to put the time and effort in to reach the top level of refereeing. Naturally, most kids who are really into football want to be players, not refs. Not sure what the solution is to be honest.

 

[gordoncharles]

Refs make bad decisions but they're more right than people give them credit for. Any game is littered with mistakes by players anyway and I can't count the times I've left a game incensed with self-righteous indignation about some offside call, only to see later that the officials were right all along.

We do have bad errors, like the Gibbs-White penalty, not given, but on the other hand this was given in a match yesterday - and that game had VAR....

 

[Dalelane01]

He saw the Bournemouth player kick the ball, it was just the wrong set of balls.

 

[Bladeloyal]

That's the problem with football, the chiefs at the top think they have the "perfect game" when you look at Rugby League the first time they used a video referee was at a tournament in 1996 approx 20 years before VAR was introduced in football. In top grade rugby league in Australia they have the 2 referee system and it was brought in because of the speed of the game. I would personally prefer the FA to say we have looked at x and feel our referees can benefit from y after reviewing how it works in x sport similar to hawk eye and whether the ball has crossed the line etc. I personally don't think we have corrupt officials or even inept ones alot of it is down to angles and when you look at the pace of the modern game which is only getting quicker there is nothing wrong with saying we have looked at this and will be trialling it out to make the decisions clearer. Trial by media should be out of the question in my book, we will end up getting rid of more referees that way. Currently we are setting up to fail which isn't helping

The penalty debacle has nothing to do with the speed of the game ,just a incompetent set of officials not reacting to what was Infront of their eyes

 

[bertieblade]

According to MGW the linesman informed the ref that it was a penalty but was overruled as the ref says he was in a better position.
if you look at the video, the ref was indeed in a better position to see that it was blatantly a penalty, speaks vol7mes when the linesman in a worse position thought it was a penalty.
game seems rigged and must admit tend to lose enthusiasm if we have incompetent officials why they cannot fast track retired lower league players who obviously understand the game and are fitter

 

[LudlamBlade]

According to MGW the linesman informed the ref that it was a penalty but was overruled as the ref says he was in a better position.
if you look at the video, the ref was indeed in a better position to see that it was blatantly a penalty, speaks vol7mes when the linesman in a worse position thought it was a penalty.
game seems rigged and must admit tend to lose enthusiasm if we have incompetent officials why they cannot fast track retired lower league players who obviously understand the game and are fitter

Hiya mate, I know you've been running about for 20 year on £2k a week, having people chant your name and clap you, and you've finally got a chance to have a rest...but do you fancy reffing Altrincham v Dagenham for £250? You'll get loads of abuse from fans and players, it's a cracking day out

 

[jt64]

I still don't want VAR.

VAR might potentially have cost Liverpool the title yesterday, but as Sky couldn't be arsed to show any replays of Sterling's missed chance right before KdB got the opener, we'll never know

 

[jt64]

Hiya mate, I know you've been running about for 20 year on £2k a week, having people chant your name and clap you, and you've finally got a chance to have a rest...but do you fancy reffing Altrincham v Dagenham for £250? You'll get loads of abuse from fans and players, it's a cracking day out

Heh, ironically it was at Altrincham where I got the best idea of what the officials actually do in terms of communication within game, given a) it was at a level where they all have mics and b) they have a terrace along the side of the ground, so can stand within earshot of the lino. The amount of talking they actually do between themselves is missed by many, even simple stuff like one lino indicating when a through ball is about to take place, so that the other can watch the line for offside rather than also watch for when the ball is played. This sort of thing will also be the cause of a lot of "why isn't he giving it immediately that was fucking obvious" issues - they're actually discussing the incident

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

We’ve had 1 ‘controversial’ decision go our way all season - away at Huddersfield.

The number of wank decisions go against us this season has been bonkers. The one yesterday was particularly wank… and yet I still don’t want the current iteration of VAR.

Give teams an American football ‘challenge’ system and I’d be on board - you get 3 a game & 15 seconds to make your challenge after an incident. If you think the refs fucked something up - throw out a challenge. If it goes your way, you get your challenge back (and the decision obviously). If it doesn’t, you lose one.

Doesn’t take 20 minutes to figure out if someone’s sleeve is offside for every goal scored & doesn’t slow the entire game down.

 

[JonnyRed(WCFC)]

No brown envelope though.


Bank transfer these days.

WUEDPP

Weer U Eard Dis Pay Pal?

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

Heckingbottom not letting it drop. Good on him but don’t think it’ll achieve anything apart from highlighting what an inept referee he was.

Sheffield United manager set to request top level talks following latest controversial incident

Sheffield United manager Paul Heckingbottom is set to request a meeting with refereeing chiefs after expressing disappointment at the number of key decisions he feels have gone against his team in recent months.

www.thestar.co.uk

 

[Northyorksblade]

I took my 8 year old grandson to the Lane yesterday for the first time, he’s only been playing kid’s football for a year and after about 20 minutes he said to me “ why does the referee keep stopping the game ? “ Where do you start?

This season it's been noticeable that referees have let play flow a lot more and it's been rather refreshing. Saturday was an exception in the worst way. Whatever became of football being a contact sport?

 

[billyblademan]

Heckingbottom not letting it drop. Good on him but don’t think it’ll achieve anything apart from highlighting what an inept referee he was.

Sheffield United manager set to request top level talks following latest controversial incident

Sheffield United manager Paul Heckingbottom is set to request a meeting with refereeing chiefs after expressing disappointment at the number of key decisions he feels have gone against his team in recent months.

www.thestar.co.uk

Knowing our luck, we'll end up with this geezer reffing us at Wembley, when no doubt he'll be far keener to point to the spot (in other direction).

Reminds me of Blackwell moaning about the appointment of Mike Dean before the Wembley game saying he rated him a 2/10 for an earlier match in the season. Lo and behold, Dean gives us fuck all, including a stonewall penalty.

 

[bertieblade]

referees earn a retainer of > £30k / annum with match fees and expenses on top of this

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

Heckingbottom not letting it drop. Good on him but don’t think it’ll achieve anything apart from highlighting what an inept referee he was.

Sheffield United manager set to request top level talks following latest controversial incident

Sheffield United manager Paul Heckingbottom is set to request a meeting with refereeing chiefs after expressing disappointment at the number of key decisions he feels have gone against his team in recent months.

www.thestar.co.uk

 

[Chingo]

Has the club had the sheepish apology from the referee yet ?

 

[MobileBlade]

We have ref's in the Premier League who are in their late 40's and one or two in their early 50's. Professional footballers start to struggle to keep up to speed by 35 so how can you expect someone around 50 to keep up with play? We need younger professional ref's or one in each half other sports have more than one ref without any issues.

Problem is when you use the younger ones they don't have the experience - hence some of the decisions you have seen this season.

 

[Champagneblade]

Heckingbottom not letting it drop. Good on him but don’t think it’ll achieve anything apart from highlighting what an inept referee he was.

Sheffield United manager set to request top level talks following latest controversial incident

Sheffield United manager Paul Heckingbottom is set to request a meeting with refereeing chiefs after expressing disappointment at the number of key decisions he feels have gone against his team in recent months.

www.thestar.co.uk

I hear he's taking a print out of this thread too. They've fucked it now!

 

[MiserableBlader]

do we have to be sttacked with a machete or a sawn off shot gun to be given a penalty

Their defender kicked. Gibbs White balls up into his throat

and that after the assault at Stoke not seen apparently

Get used to it.
It's been like this as long as I can remember.
You have to try and ignore it and win the game again.
Was going to post something about SUFC being 2-0 up after 60 minutes and losing 3-2 three months later and see if anyone could solve that riddle.
For those who were not there that was fifty years ago.
2-0 up at Coventry, coasting, on a typical no grass mud heap in winter.
Thirty second snow shower and ref calls it off.
Stopped before even one player had had time to leave the pitch.
TC with his arms out saying - what you called it off for it's stopped, it's no different.
But the 'decision' was made.
Nowt to do with Jimmy Hill who appeared to running football at the time as well as Coventry.

 

[blade too long]

Get used to it.
It's been like this as long as I can remember.
You have to try and ignore it and win the game again.
Was going to post something about SUFC being 2-0 up after 60 minutes and losing 3-2 three months later and see if anyone could solve that riddle.
For those who were not there that was fifty years ago.
2-0 up at Coventry, coasting, on a typical no grass mud heap in winter.
Thirty second snow shower and ref calls it off.
Stopped before even one player had had time to leave the pitch.
TC with his arms out saying - what you called it off for it's stopped, it's no different.
But the 'decision' was made.
Nowt to do with Jimmy Hill who appeared to running football at the time as well as Coventry.

I was there and the return which went a totally different way

 

[loyalblade95]

Not just us having a bad ref in our game. Equally bad ref for Derby having watched their highlights being denied a stonewall penalty (just as bad as the one for MGW). Then having the ref blow full time instead of giving Derby a dangerous free kick right at the death. Standard of refereeing been bad in championship all season.

 

[Stu_Blade]

The penalty debacle has nothing to do with the speed of the game ,just a incompetent set of officials not reacting to what was Infront of their eyes

True sometimes its down to angles too. It would be good for one fixture for the referees to wear a go pro so we as a viewer could actually see what they see. That would be the only way to know if they are incompetent or didn't see it because of positioning etc

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

Interesting article…

Why Sheffield United should already be above AFC Bournemouth this season

In football, we’re frequently told, luck tends to balance itself out. If that particular cliché is true, then Sheffield United are surely destined for the Premier League this season after saving up what seems like a season of misfortune for the promotion race’s final straight.

www.thestar.co.uk

 

[Pollingtonblade]

That ref was a cunt on Saturday

 

[biggiesablade]

Agreed

 

[biggiesablade]

True sometimes its down to angles too. It would be good for one fixture for the referees to wear a go pro so we as a viewer could actually see what they see. That would be the only way to know if they are incompetent or didn't see it because of positioning

Bet hes staring at man bum all time

 

[spikeachu]

True sometimes its down to angles too. It would be good for one fixture for the referees to wear a go pro so we as a viewer could actually see what they see. That would be the only way to know if they are incompetent or didn't see it because of positioning etc

A go pro replay would have been great when Sander twatted the ball right in the refs face last week.

 

[Revolution]

I’ve seen a lot of justified complaints about the penalty decision on Saturday. People are also saying we were cheated out of 2 points. My question to those people is: who was going to take the penalty and why are you sure they’d have scored?

 

[KiwiBlabe]

The ref was inept, absolutely, however as I said on another post, when do players and managers become culpable. Both sets of players are constantly trying to con and cheat the ref. This is supported and condoned by managers, pundits, commentators and never punished by the FA. The refs would make far fewer mistakes if players were more honest. Trouble is they are rewarded for going down.
Look at Ndiaye earlier in the season, he was staying on his feet and getting nothing. Compare that to Saturday when every time somebody went down they get a free kick. The game is rewarding cheating and gamesmanship and nothing is happening to stop it. So we can keep blaming the refs, or make their job easier by berating the footballing authorities instead to make changes.
Refs are not very good, however in the current environment they are set up to fail.

 

[Stu_Blade]

This season it's been noticeable that referees have let play flow a lot more and it's been rather refreshing. Saturday was an exception in the worst way. Whatever became of football being a contact sport?

Hasn't been a contact sport for years since they removed the shoulder barge from the Laws it's all about intent or actual contact now. In theory you do not have to foul the player but trip or intend to trip an opponent is enough