Berge

[Millhousesblade1889]

I think he's desperate to leave the club & get his career back on track. I don't blame him, he's got ambitions above what we’ll ever achieve however he hasn't proven any ability with ourselves. He's also shown he cant put a run of games together without getting injured

 

[S64 Blade]

Remember him gliding towards their goal in the final few minutes; Bristol City players seemingly just bouncing off him.

 

[Aston max]

I still think the lad would fit better with a sitting CDM as it would give him the freedom to influence the game better, looking at Sundays game hecky was trying 3_4_3 but we need more athletic wide players (seriki being one)
Berge could prove to be the missing link for a promotion push ,
At the moment as we stand with the need for a CDM and 2 wide players
But hey-ho what do I know

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Won't be saving himself for the World Cup 2022,thats a plus.

Berge needs a hatchet man at his side as he does not have the hatchet in him.

 

[Dkc]

1.5pts per game will get you close to the play off's Slav was averaging just over a point per game we will need a run of 20 games averaging 2pts per game to see us in a play off spot with 26 games remaining that is not at all impossible. If we had left Slav in charge until January there would have been no chance at all, everything to play for one team always comes with a late run and usually do well in the play off's.

I just checked the table, 2 points per game would put us on 78 points at the end of the season. 2 points per game over a season is indeed auto form (92 points). And we need this kind of form just to make the play offs.

Less optimistic now, especially when MGW will return and everyone else will have their price come January - including Berg

 

[pedro]

I don't know who said it who would buy Berg?
Major hamstring problem sorted? after a long time, then another problem with his hamstring but supposedly not as serious he hasn't played for ages and any player coming back from injury is never the same as before Coutts eg
Lets hope that his recovery is with us and I am wrong but it is good to see him back in contention
UTB

 

[alcoblade]

Remember him gliding towards their goal in the final few minutes; Bristol City players seemingly just bouncing off him.

He does that incredibly well when he does it - just not nearly often enough as yet.

 

[metalblade]

It's not "impossible," but 2 points a game is automatic promotion form. Have you seen that kind of quality out of this group this season? Hence my point, if it's to happen something will need to change. Berge could be that change, so could McBurnie (if the Swansea version was discovered) but I find that unlikely.

Oh yes I agree we need to go on a tremendous run but with the quality on show in this division 70pts could well be enough it's a poor league this season, no one will get near Fulham and Bournemouth.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Oh yes I agree we need to go on a tremendous run but with the quality on show in this division 70pts could well be enough it's a poor league this season, no one will get near Fulham and Bournemouth.

Presuming you're right about 70 points being enough then that's 1.7 points per game.

We're currently at 1.3 so on course for approx. 60 points. Enough to finish 8-10th in previous seasons.

 

[Bladesman]

A lot of Berge revisionism going on in this thread.

Sanders injury that he had to have surgery for, this is what Wilder said at the time: “He’s gone to block a ball and the force of the clearance has caught him on the end of his toe. It’s affected all his hamstring and it’s pulled the tendon off the bone. He’ll require surgery, so three months."

He has since come back from injury and caught COVID and tweaked the hamstring injury. I am starting to think questions have to be asked about the backroom staff. As we seem to bring players back from injury and they get injured again on their return.

It's not just Berge or Moose. Bogle and Baldock seem to keep having injury problems.

 

[Charlieblade]

He does that incredibly well when he does it - just not nearly often enough as yet.

You normally dismiss Berge based on his contribution over his time at the lane.

I ask you to look again at the circumstances surrounding his contribution, or lack of. He is still a quality player. He has gone through a long spell with serious injury for the first time in his career. That would mess with anyones head. He and the manager need to make his comeback steady and cautious, until he can impose himself with confidence.
Right now he is a blades player on a decent long term contract. It is said he has expressed a desire to leave, but not made a big fuss about it.

One of two things will happen next. He gets a run in the team, attracts acceptable bids, and leaves
either in January or next summer. Let’s not forget, he is still under contract and the club can play hardball like they did with Ramsdale.

The alternative is, his development is slower, and he stays, becoming a key player for Sheffield United.

If his serious injury has not blighted his career, he will enjoy a long career at a high level. I like to think he is the same positive, intelligent and likable. young man that came to us so long ago. I wish him all the best, wherever his future lies.

 

[SwissBlade]

Berge has certainly not had the greatest of starts in the red and white. A young lad, moving to a new country and new league, trying to fit into a side that was flying at the time was perhaps under estimated at the time, but he got a lot of support from the fans and he was a big signing back then.

With Lockdown its been a disaster really with relegation, so many injuries changing managers and styles, he's not found a role that he fits into yet. Early season cameo's he looked to be finally getting somewhere and then another injury before the hull game.

I wouldn't say he's even been missed as we've not had him really put in the performances we'd expected from him.

He's undoubtedly a good player with the ball at his feet, but he's got so much to learn and needs more physical players around him.

Thought he did alright for the time he played on Sunday, but he needs a run of games to get anywhere close to coming into form.

 

[alcoblade]

You normally dismiss Berge based on his contribution over his time at the lane.

I ask you to look again at the circumstances surrounding his contribution, or lack of. He is still a quality player. He has gone through a long spell with serious injury for the first time in his career. That would mess with anyones head. He and the manager need to make his comeback steady and cautious, until he can impose himself with confidence.
Right now he is a blades player on a decent long term contract. It is said he has expressed a desire to leave, but not made a big fuss about it.

One of two things will happen next. He gets a run in the team, attracts acceptable bids, and leaves
either in January or next summer. Let’s not forget, he is still under contract and the club can play hardball like they did with Ramsdale.

The alternative is, his development is slower, and he stays, becoming a key player for Sheffield United.

If his serious injury has not blighted his career, he will enjoy a long career at a high level. I like to think he is the same positive, intelligent and likable. young man that came to us so long ago. I wish him all the best, wherever his future lies.

I don't disagree with any of that. There could be a number of reasons he hasn't (yet?) performed.

My point is always this - when those who took us from the third division to the premier lost their form, they seemed to have no excuses afforded them.

Berge came in, and has dined out on a historical reputation, with people seemingly falling over themselves (hence the Berge bingo) to apologise for his lack of contribution, at the expense of those who actually earned us something, historically.

We all agree we want him to start performing. It's a new era, fingers crossed.

 

[Addison]

A lot of Berge revisionism going on in this thread.

Sanders injury that he had to have surgery for, this is what Wilder said at the time: “He’s gone to block a ball and the force of the clearance has caught him on the end of his toe. It’s affected all his hamstring and it’s pulled the tendon off the bone. He’ll require surgery, so three months."

He has since come back from injury and caught COVID and tweaked the hamstring injury. I am starting to think questions have to be asked about the backroom staff. As we seem to bring players back from injury and they get injured again on their return.

It's not just Berge or Moose. Bogle and Baldock seem to keep having injury problems.

Add in the reputed mis management of JOC's injury and it does raise questions.

The barking mad Resolution of Thanks for PH had a dig at CW's team on this issue

"Whereas, during the 2020/21 season, the Club suffered a significant number of injuries, resulting in the loss of key players for protracted periods;"

Yet little seems to have progressed and we are once again without a Head of Sports Science a critical appointment if we are to get through the season without new additions in the JTW. Its all right criticising the previous regime if you take action but the words become hollow the longer you let matters drift.

 

[Bladesman]

Add in the reputed mis management of JOC's injury and it does raise questions.

The barking mad Resolution of Thanks for PH had a dig at CW's team on this issue

"Whereas, during the 2020/21 season, the Club suffered a significant number of injuries, resulting in the loss of key players for protracted periods;"

Yet little seems to have progressed and we are once again without a Head of Sports Science a critical appointment if we are to get through the season without new additions in the JTW. Its all right criticising the previous regime if you take action but the words become hollow the longer you let matters drift.

Standards slipped last year and have just got worse it would seem. Hopefully if Hecky has more of a role around the club he can at least get this issue sorted.

 

[BlairBlade]

Who’s going to buy him in January?

We live in hope.
Maybe if he plays between now and January and really shows how good he is and why we spent so much on him for, as yet, hardly any return clubs will be flocking to the Lane to buy him.

 

[Scoips]

A lot of Berge revisionism going on in this thread.

Sanders injury that he had to have surgery for, this is what Wilder said at the time: “He’s gone to block a ball and the force of the clearance has caught him on the end of his toe. It’s affected all his hamstring and it’s pulled the tendon off the bone. He’ll require surgery, so three months."

He has since come back from injury and caught COVID and tweaked the hamstring injury. I am starting to think questions have to be asked about the backroom staff. As we seem to bring players back from injury and they get injured again on their return.

It's not just Berge or Moose. Bogle and Baldock seem to keep having injury problems.

I tend to agree about questions for the medical staff - I think Fleck (with his back problems rather than those that appeared at Reading} and Stevens (with the misdiagnosis of his hernia problem) could be added to the list of players whose treatment might be open to a bit more scrutiny.

 

[Bladesman]

I tend to agree about questions for the medical staff - I think Fleck (with his back problems rather than those that appeared at Reading} and Stevens (with the misdiagnosis of his hernia problem) could be added to the list of players whose treatment might be open to a bit more scrutiny.

It does make you wonder, the more you look at all the players that have been absent over the last 18 months or so.

Injuries are part and parcel of football but the misdiagnosis of players is a worry.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Appreciate what you're saying, but it's 6 points and about 7 teams to get past for us to climb in there. It will take a sustained run of form, the kind of which I haven't seen the makings of from this team.

As I say, if we're going to do it I don't think it's going to come with this current side - particularly these midfield players. It's going to take something new to catapult us. The only players on the fringes are McBurnie, Berge & Burke. I'd only back Berge out of those guys to be the one to add something.

Mcburnie, Berge and Burke not major players today and we leapfrogged 3 sides. Long old season and as proven a few weeks can dramatically change things

 

[Mouth of the South]

Due to the difficulty in attracting top talent to a club in a relegation fight, Berge is apparently on Newcastle's wanted list and what a result it would be if they came knocking with their wads of cash - one of the only ways Utd would realise anywhere near what they paid for the player.

 

[mancunianblade]

Due to the difficulty in attracting top talent to a club in a relegation fight, Berge is apparently on Newcastle's wanted list and what a result it would be if they came knocking with their wads of cash - one of the only ways Utd would realise anywhere near what they paid for the player.

Don’t see Berge making the same mistake twice.. maybe a loan though

 

[Mouth of the South]

Don’t see Berge making the same mistake twice.. maybe a loan though

Money talks though

 

[Snowflake]

Money talks though

Why go to a team in the Championship for 22/23 when you can stay where you are and play in the Premiership !!

 

[bakeblade]

Due to the difficulty in attracting top talent to a club in a relegation fight, Berge is apparently on Newcastle's wanted list and what a result it would be if they came knocking with their wads of cash - one of the only ways Utd would realise anywhere near what they paid for the player.

I wonder if we could include McBurnie as part of the deal

 

[Champagneblade]

Money talks though

Can't think of why we would loan him out at all, unless we we're loaning someone in exchange from them.

May as well keep him.

Bit different if we can get some decent cash.

 

[Westran]

Berge has obvious quality, but Newcastle only have money at this stage and are likely to get relegated. Its not exactly a forward move for him, unless he has other more established Premier League clubs coming in for him, he'd be better vidimg his time and potentially getting promoted with us. That's unless he just fancies a big pay day of course

 

[Mouth of the South]

Can't think of why we would loan him out at all, unless we we're loaning someone in exchange from them.

May as well keep him.

Bit different if we can get some decent cash.

They only reason would be for the saving made on his wages to be reallocated to bring in other players that PH wants (I can't see many/any perm signings and with currently only 1 loan signing left (if they're all going to feature) it might depend on what happening with MG-W and Hourihane) or they're really inder the cosh financially (which doesn't appear to be the caee).

 

[HeySethUTB]

Berge is an easy ticket to use to get the right asking price from an investment fund that will undoubtedly have ties to our own Prince in some way or another.

I mean if we need £35 million, this is an open goal. Just a thought.

 

[Weasel]

As always if the price is right, then be open to the sale. If its not then tell them to do one. Newcastle can afford the going rate and then some so Utd should barter hard if the Geordies firm up their interest.

And even if they are struggling this season Newcastle are a genuinely massive club and if relegated would steam roller the championship next season. Berge could cement himself into a PL club with this move and set himself up financially for life.

They genuinely want him? then we need to see the colour of their money.

 

[Russ]

When Newcastle come calling you double the price.