Bladesince59
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Wilder did a job he was rewarded. End.
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You'll get eggs thrown at your windows for thatWilder did a job he was rewarded. End.
Started too many threads on here about Wilder and one was Richard Cadette so had to goSaid that Wilder deserved all the credit
Is that how you see Wilders time with us ?Wilder did a job he was rewarded. End.
Think that’s unfair.. I’m not in the militant wilder support group
but he gave minutes to
DCL
Ramsdale
Adams
Brookes
And he had them all sold before they could establish themselves,then apart from those players who else came through pre Covid who was good enough to make it? Brookes also suffered from a long term illness didn’t he which curtailed his involvement
I think he recommended Brian Deane and Tony Agana too……. Oh wait a minute …… put em together and what have you got …. Another bloody CW thread. ……… Next……..!,,,One of the early things that CW did, I believe, was to overhaul the Academy. He brought in Jack Lester to over see it and it seems that things have moved on very much in the right direction since. I do not follow the Academy closely but I know that last season both U18's and U 23's were excellent. More importantly it appears that there is a crop of players who are thought to have real potential. The classic example is Ndaiye whose debut last Saturday was breath taking in a game I will never forget. Fortunately it seems that PA intervened to make sure he was given a contact otherwise we might have lost him. He appears to be an absolute gem and will surely go onto great things hopefully with us.
In addition we have Jebbison (who apparently Everton wanted to buy for £5 mill) and a number of other players some of whom have gone out on loan but who are widely tipped as stars of the near future; Lopata, Gordon, Brunt, Seriki and others. Would be interested to hear what regular followers of the U18's and U23's who post on here think.
Could the overhaul be one of Wilder's best decisions and can we nurture some others who are as good as Ndaiye?
TB was let go.Wasn't early was it? 2019 JL became Academy Manager.
Didn't TB leave to join Man Utd?
Dont think anyone has said that at all.Seems some would have preferred to have a team made up of academy players plying their trade probably still in league one than two promotions and a top 10 PL finish.
Did CW cut himself short by asking for a £4m pay-off?One of the early things that CW did, I believe, was to overhaul the Academy. He brought in Jack Lester to over see it and it seems that things have moved on very much in the right direction since. I do not follow the Academy closely but I know that last season both U18's and U 23's were excellent. More importantly it appears that there is a crop of players who are thought to have real potential. The classic example is Ndaiye whose debut last Saturday was breath taking in a game I will never forget. Fortunately it seems that PA intervened to make sure he was given a contact otherwise we might have lost him. He appears to be an absolute gem and will surely go onto great things hopefully with us.
In addition we have Jebbison (who apparently Everton wanted to buy for £5 mill) and a number of other players some of whom have gone out on loan but who are widely tipped as stars of the near future; Lopata, Gordon, Brunt, Seriki and others. Would be interested to hear what regular followers of the U18's and U23's who post on here think.
Could the overhaul be one of Wilder's best decisions and can we nurture some others who are as good as Ndaiye?
Tuk 4 milyunWhat did the bloke do to some of you?
Players from our academy who played league games under Wilder (not including players sold and re-signed):
David Brooks, 30 games (21 as sub)
George Long, 3 games
Jake Eastwood, 1 game (as a sub)
Regan Slater, 1 game (as a sub)
Antwoine Hackford, 1 game (as a sub)
Did TB leave or was there an agreement to leave due to a clash of ideas, direction and personality between himself and the 1st team management set-up plus the Chief Exec?. He was a McCabe appointment.Wasn't early was it? 2019 JL became Academy Manager.
Didn't TB leave to join Man Utd?
Sorry BladeinLeeds, but can't agree with much of that. Just out of interest how do you know that Wilder didn't fight tooth and nail to keep DCL and Rammers? You have to remember we were in League One and broke when those deals happened, I would make a decent assertion that Wilder had no choice to keep them or if he did then at the cost of a much reduced budget. Also the players would have no doubt wanted the move to PL clubs and to vastly increase their salary. DCL said he just couldn't turn the move down. To also lose Adams, who was our most creative player at the time, and then go onto win the league I'd say Wilder can only be praised for that season.Absolutely not.
no slight at wilder but he showed absolutely zero inclination to play any academy players - preference was for established professionals.
brooks is the only one and his hand was forced because of just how good he was. Even then he wasn’t really a regular.
RND would have saved us 15k a week and 2m fee we paid for Lowe. but wilder never gave him a chance.
we may not have had much of a chance but he didn’t exactly pound the table to keep ramsdale or DCL
Fair enough when things were working (which they did for 90% of his time here) but he never gave any academy lads a chance even when it patently wasn’t
His strengths lay elsewhere but he had no interest in developing young play.
Sorry BladeinLeeds, but can't agree with much of that. Just out of interest how do you know that Wilder didn't fight tooth and nail to keep DCL and Rammers? You have to remember we were in League One and broke when those deals happened, I would make a decent assertion that Wilder had no choice to keep them or if he did then at the cost of a much reduced budget. Also the players would have no doubt wanted the move to PL clubs and to vastly increase their salary. DCL said he just couldn't turn the move down. To also lose Adams, who was our most creative player at the time, and then go onto win the league I'd say Wilder can only be praised for that season.
As for Wilder never playing youngsters, all of the lads coming through now such as Brunt, Lopata, Jebbison, Hackford, Brunt, Seriki and Ndiaye, out of all of those lads we've only seen Ndiaye make the breakthrough, I don't include Jebbo because Slav has decided he can go on loan this season and not use him. So back to last season when we were bottom of the league and desperate for points, I'm not so sure that introducing and of the above would have made any difference and possibly just damaged their confidence. Hecky only used Jebbo in the last few games when there was nothing to lose by then.
As far as I can see the only argument against Wilder and the youngsters is with RND and buying Lowe instead, but last summer RND had only played at League One level, I would say a loan on the Championship was his natural progression and in his interests to play every week over being a back-up for Enda, who was undoubtedly first choice. I think the signing of Lowe was a bizarre in a way, given that RND was probably only one season away from coming into the first team, but we needed cover right then and if Enda breaks his leg just after the window closes then he needed someone more experienced than RND.
Newton Heath's Head of Academy Operations is Nick Cox, formerly of this parish. He worked with Binnion at Shirecliffe so would have been instrumental in bringing him into the Man U system. From what I've read on here Binnion was well thought of at United but I wonder whether he's more suited to being an age group coach than full blown academy manager/U21s coach. The two roles (U18s coach and academy manager) are totally different.Did TB leave or was there an agreement to leave due to a clash of ideas, direction and personality between himself and the 1st team management set-up plus the Chief Exec?. He was a McCabe appointment.
TB took the Man Utd job a good while after leaving The Blades. Maybe a contractual obligation not to get a job for a certain period of time. Like a gardening leave?
An friend who works for United and used to work with/for TB told me that he has already been promoted to Head U18's coach there and sent me this link.
https://weallfollowunited.com/2021/...t-travis-binnion-as-their-new-under-18-coach/
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