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JJBlade said:
I wonder why patience isn't a virtue of our fanbase ?

Maybe it's because so many of us have only ever wanted a team that could do a simple thing like pass, move and create, and they have been waiting 50 years for it.

I think anybody would run out of patience when even the most simple and basic demand is constantly ignored in favour of a bunch of hard working, unskilled scrubbers.

It's not too much to ask, we don't demand Premier League titles and FA cups, just a bit of entertainment every now and then.

Sheffield United are the only club that can go on a good run and consistently win games, but still be absolutely fucking crap. They just do everything in a crap way, they win crap, draw crap, lose crap, sign crap and play crap. The general lack of satisfaction after almost every game no matter what the result has been hanging around this place for decades.

I think a club that can still attract near 30,000 people for second tier football after the shit we have to endure is a miracle, and the only good thing about Sheffield United is its fans, everything else is amateur.
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This sums it up for me.

As a Blade of 30 years I have only ever seen us do something good a few times and then follow it up by some seriously retarded actions that have put us back a decade. A lot of people thought that the 2 promotions in 3 seasons and the subsequent top half finish in the PL meant an end to this behaviour. In good old Blades style though the retardedness has returned and we've pretty much gone about everything we've done in the last 18 months in completely the wrong way.

We now have:

  • A team completely unable to win a game of football and lacking in confidence/ability/determination.
  • A slapdash approach to signing players.
  • An imbalanced squad with some major money signings who are completely underperforming.
  • Inadequate training facilities.
  • One season of relative financial security, followed by what I can only assume will need to be a massive cost cutting exercise.
  • An owner who seems to have disappeared from all media now things have taken a turn for the worse.
  • A CEO who has done similar.
  • Ticket problems.
  • A divided fanbase.
It's a worry.
 



JJBlade said:
I wonder why patience isn't a virtue of our fanbase ?

Maybe it's because so many of us have only ever wanted a team that could do a simple thing like pass, move and create, and they have been waiting 50 years for it.

I think anybody would run out of patience when even the most simple and basic demand is constantly ignored in favour of a bunch of hard working, unskilled scrubbers.

It's not too much to ask, we don't demand Premier League titles and FA cups, just a bit of entertainment every now and then.

Sheffield United are the only club that can go on a good run and consistently win games, but still be absolutely fucking crap. They just do everything in a crap way, they win crap, draw crap, lose crap, sign crap and play crap. The general lack of satisfaction after almost every game no matter what the result has been hanging around this place for decades.

I think a club that can still attract near 30,000 people for second tier football after the shit we have to endure is a miracle, and the only good thing about Sheffield United is its fans, everything else is amateur.
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I'd say bringing in a manager with a reputation for playing exciting attacking football, resulting in getting two teams promoted from this league, with fans of both those clubs saying how much they enjoyed it but you'd need to patient in the beginning, pretty much suggests that people moaning after less than a handful of games is the absolute epitome of impatience.

I don't disagree with many of your assertions of the club and Sheffield in general, we're a city that underachieves and too many Sheffielders are happy with that imho.

That said, if you really want to see your team adopt a different strategy and vision, then I'd think bringing in a foreign manager with a reputation for such is a good start. It might even help giving him a season to implement his methods and the chance to bring in his own players rather than panicking after 3 or 4 games and pining for a Warnock or Wilder like some do.

Part of this club's long term underachieving is down to attitudes as well as boardrooms.

It's OK having an identity but that supposed identity that some fans perceive us to have, will only ever get us so far.
 
Davalon said:
I'd say bringing in a manager with a reputation for playing exciting attacking football, resulting in getting two teams promoted from this league, with fans of both those clubs saying how much they enjoyed it but you'd need to patient in the beginning, pretty much suggests that people moaning after less than a handful of games is the absolute epitome of impatience.

I don't disagree with many of your assertions of the club and Sheffield in general, we're a city that underachieves and too many Sheffielders are happy with that imho.

That said, if you really want to see your team adopt a different strategy and vision, then I'd think bringing in a foreign manager with a reputation for such is a good start. It might even help giving him a season to implement his methods and the chance to bring in his own players rather than panicking after 3 or 4 games and pining for a Warnock or Wilder like some do.

Part of this club's long term underachieving is down to attitudes as well as boardrooms.

It's OK having an identity but that supposed identity that some fans perceive us to have, will only ever get us so far.
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Yes, agree
I'm happy with Slav, and if he is backed properly he will bring in the type of players needed to shake off a certain image that has been left behind by Bassett, Warnock and to a lesser degree Wilder
 
dublin 10 blade said:
Not 100% sure if this is accurate
Think the DOF spent the money on players he didn’t want ,
Then when he couldn’t get them to gel , he got sacked but still went down
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I'm talking about when he first went there. Not his third season.
 
Lukey said:
Saw the "sack Slav" post. Just thought i'd post.

Slav didn't start one season well for us but each time we ended up playing the best football in the division by the end of the season. We were unlucky (in his first full season) in the playoffs against Reading and then went up deservedly against Villa, after only just missing out on 2nd. We went on a 23 game unbeaten run, started by a Ryan Sessegnon hatrick away at some team in Sheffield who i think were 1st or 2nd at the time. We were around mid table at that point.

He tinkers for about half a season, gradually getting less and less so, before finally playing the same side every week. If you are doing your business late (like our very own Tony Khan does) then i'd imagine it will be Christmas time before you start winning ALL your games. In the mean time i wouldn't panic (although that's always hard in football circles).

I remember Watford coming to the cottage and tonking us 5-0 once with Slav as manager. Unbelievable football and an absolute legend. One of my favourite ever managers. Charlie Cooper (This Country) referred to him as "beautiful" in the run up ton Wembley, which is about right.

Well, anyway, good luck with the season.

...And can i just say, next time when i leave Brammall Lane after an inevitable loss, can you please make sure that us posh Londoners don't get abused by your Father/young-son combos (in the exact same spot each time). Although extraordinary, it wasn't very becoming! : )
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Only issue is, at Watford and fulham, he was backed on the transfer front. We apparently have deals lines up and theres still time but it’s starting to get worrying the lack of signings they’ve given him
 
Lukey said:
Saw the "sack Slav" post. Just thought i'd post.

Slav didn't start one season well for us but each time we ended up playing the best football in the division by the end of the season. We were unlucky (in his first full season) in the playoffs against Reading and then went up deservedly against Villa, after only just missing out on 2nd. We went on a 23 game unbeaten run, started by a Ryan Sessegnon hatrick away at some team in Sheffield who i think were 1st or 2nd at the time. We were around mid table at that point.

He tinkers for about half a season, gradually getting less and less so, before finally playing the same side every week. If you are doing your business late (like our very own Tony Khan does) then i'd imagine it will be Christmas time before you start winning ALL your games. In the mean time i wouldn't panic (although that's always hard in football circles).

I remember Watford coming to the cottage and tonking us 5-0 once with Slav as manager. Unbelievable football and an absolute legend. One of my favourite ever managers. Charlie Cooper (This Country) referred to him as "beautiful" in the run up ton Wembley, which is about right.

Well, anyway, good luck with the season.

...And can i just say, next time when i leave Brammall Lane after an inevitable loss, can you please make sure that us posh Londoners don't get abused by your Father/young-son combos (in the exact same spot each time). Although extraordinary, it wasn't very becoming! : )
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Thanks for taking the time to post that mate. It's certainly at least a little reassuring to know that he's recovered from shaky starts before!
 
Whilst I do understand the disappointment at our results so far this season, we have to be a little pragmatic about it.

We have a group of players bereft of confidence, and who are geared up to play in a certain way.

He has probably figured that as fast as Burke can run, he cant play football, like wise made a decision on a few others, Robinson been one hopefully

We all expected either Ramsdale or Berge to be sold, any purchases have to follow that sale - how much do we get, how much is that players replacement, whats left = now buy............ or neither offers are accepted and we simply stick with what we have got.

I expect to see a few new faces in the next week, then a couple of weeks to get them integrated into the system he wants - so I expect we may not see the real SJ team until mid September, at which point no one has ever been relegated BTW.

In the summer the board had 2 choices, replace CW with a CW clone (knill or PH) - had this happened we would have been in uproar that we needed a change of direction in terms of playing style, as the OLCB had been sussed and had become easy to play against
Or they go in a different direction, bring in a foreign coach who isnt a paid up member of the EDL, bring in some foreign players and play a different style

I would say to a man we all choose option 2, well then we need to give the guy time to implement those methods.
 
Bladedog said:
Didn't your board give him money to spend though.
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Shahid didn't spend much money with us until his son arrived. Which was pretty much the time that Joka was appointed. We barely avoided relegation to League 1 when he was appointed mid way through the season (MK Dons wen't down instead, after Joka's late run). Next season we were in the play offs against Reading and the next season went up as IMO the best side in the division.

As for money being thrown at our team, Fulham under Al Fayed would spend £100m and get £150m worth of players. Under Tony Khan we spend £100m and get £50m worth of players. It has been that way for 5 years now (although Tony Khan is improving, with help). The splashing of cash doesn't go down well with the Fulham fans (despite being down the road from big spending neighbours). A lot of us saw as spend £70k to get promoted from the old Division 3 (basement) in 1997.

If you want evidence of how Joka was set up to fail in the Premier League, we spent £75m (of just under £100m) on Seri, Anguissa and Mawson. In total those three have so far played about 360 mins between them this season IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP (mostly warming the bench). So, no one would say Jokanovic was given a fair crack of the whip in the Premier League when he was meant to integrate those players. Changing to a defensive style with Ranieri (which is what everyone was saying about Joka when we started losing) just made it worse.

I'll def be looking out for your results this season.
 
newforestblade said:
The difference with Watford and Fulham is they had talented footballers who gave a damn.
And knew how to put the ball in the old onion bag.
Slav has not been told about the Old English proverb... You can`t polish a turd.
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Slav will make that turd as shiny as possible. If he's doing the same there as he did with us, he is currently working out who he can rely on. The window hasn't shut yet. I am sure the players he is removing from the squad will be just as important as the players he is bringing in. He knows what he wants and will make a proper cohesive unit from whatever you do have. You were top half of the Premier League not long ago. You can't be that bad!
 
Lukey said:
Slav will make that turd as shiny as possible. If he's doing the same there as he did with us, he is currently working out who he can rely on. The window hasn't shut yet. I am sure the players he is removing from the squad will be just as important as the players he is bringing in. He knows what he wants and will make a proper cohesive unit from whatever you do have. You were top half of the Premier League not long ago. You can't be that bad!
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Exactly, Slav has to cut through the crap. There were too many players Wilder stayed loyal to who were letting him down. Enda Stevens being a good example who's form had gone off the boil even before football was stopped.

It highlights what me and some others have been saying. Wilder had some sort of breakdown and couldn't see the wood for the trees. The old Wilder from our League 1 days would walk in today and probably transfer list half of the current squad.
 
Brewster Cost Millions said:
The father and son incident, didn't one of your fans spit at the son?,could be confused.
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Ha ha. I was with my Dad at the time. Your fathers and sons looked more aggro than ours so we steered clear. I had been expecting friendly Sean Bean types so it took me by surprise.
 



Lukey said:
Slav will make that turd as shiny as possible. If he's doing the same there as he did with us, he is currently working out who he can rely on. The window hasn't shut yet. I am sure the players he is removing from the squad will be just as important as the players he is bringing in. He knows what he wants and will make a proper cohesive unit from whatever you do have. You were top half of the Premier League not long ago. You can't be that bad!
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I wouldn't say on paper we're that bad. We seem to have developed a losing mentality, something which has been pretty obvious for a while now. We need some fresh blood in to try and turn that around. Still think we'll come good, doesn't help when we're seemingly dragging our feet for incomings.
 
Lukey said:
Ha ha. I was with my Dad at the time. Your fathers and sons looked more aggro than ours so we steered clear. I had been expecting friendly Sean Bean types so it took me by surprise.
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Lukey said:
Ha ha. I was with my Dad at the time. Your fathers and sons looked more aggro than ours so we steered clear. I had been expecting friendly Sean Bean types so it took me by surprise.
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Most London fans strut around like they own the place,sorry for that incident btw.
 
I've said before if we won 45 games and lost just 1, some of our fans would moan we'd lost 1, strangely our form takes me back to 90 when we played Oldham in Zenith Data Systems at Lane. I may be wrong but I'm sure we were 2-0 down and replied with 7 of our own, it changed our season IMS.
 
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I really hope Slav can turn this around. Watching United at the minute is like walking up to a giant bouncer outside a night club and saying “scuse me mate. If I give you £35, could you kick me in the bollocks as hard as you can & spit in my face please?”

You’ll then spend the next few hours drunkenly whinging online about how much of a shit experience you’ve just had, only to go to fucking Luton the following week to do it all again.
 
Lukey said:
Saw the "sack Slav" post. Just thought i'd post.

Slav didn't start one season well for us but each time we ended up playing the best football in the division by the end of the season. We were unlucky (in his first full season) in the playoffs against Reading and then went up deservedly against Villa, after only just missing out on 2nd. We went on a 23 game unbeaten run, started by a Ryan Sessegnon hatrick away at some team in Sheffield who i think were 1st or 2nd at the time. We were around mid table at that point.

He tinkers for about half a season, gradually getting less and less so, before finally playing the same side every week. If you are doing your business late (like our very own Tony Khan does) then i'd imagine it will be Christmas time before you start winning ALL your games. In the mean time i wouldn't panic (although that's always hard in football circles).

I remember Watford coming to the cottage and tonking us 5-0 once with Slav as manager. Unbelievable football and an absolute legend. One of my favourite ever managers. Charlie Cooper (This Country) referred to him as "beautiful" in the run up ton Wembley, which is about right.

Well, anyway, good luck with the season.

...And can i just say, next time when i leave Brammall Lane after an inevitable loss, can you please make sure that us posh Londoners don't get abused by your Father/young-son combos (in the exact same spot each time). Although extraordinary, it wasn't very becoming! : )
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Great post mate.
I'll mention the virtue of patience to the 'gettit forward' knobhead who sits at the back of the South stand 😉, everytime we play backwards.

Finally, sorry about the Father Son thing, spoke to my lad, and we have agreed to lay off this season 😏
 
JJBlade said:
I wonder why patience isn't a virtue of our fanbase ?

Maybe it's because so many of us have only ever wanted a team that could do a simple thing like pass, move and create, and they have been waiting 50 years for it.

I think anybody would run out of patience when even the most simple and basic demand is constantly ignored in favour of a bunch of hard working, unskilled scrubbers.

It's not too much to ask, we don't demand Premier League titles and FA cups, just a bit of entertainment every now and then.

Sheffield United are the only club that can go on a good run and consistently win games, but still be absolutely fucking crap. They just do everything in a crap way, they win crap, draw crap, lose crap, sign crap and play crap. The general lack of satisfaction after almost every game no matter what the result has been hanging around this place for decades.

I think a club that can still attract near 30,000 people for second tier football after the shit we have to endure is a miracle, and the only good thing about Sheffield United is its fans, everything else is amateur.
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Loved this
 
SwitchBLADE Smiles said:
I really hope Slav can turn this around. Watching United at the minute is like walking up to a giant bouncer outside a night club and saying “scuse me mate. If I give you £35, could you kick me in the bollocks as hard as you can & spit in my face please?”

You’ll then spend the next few hours drunkenly whinging online about how much of a shit experience you’ve just had, only to go to fucking Luton the following week to do it all again.
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Actually, I didn't mind the match on Saturday. Well up until Udders scored.
 
Probably a bit much asking Unitedites for patience to get near on 30,000 in the lane following the season we have just had is amazing support. Considering we knew we were down not long after Christmas and that Wilder wanted out the new manager search should have started much sooner even if it meant paying some club compensation. What we ended up with was a club in limbo waiting a month and half after the season had finished before the next man got in the door. All other teams by then knew what tactics they were going to use and set about getting players in before Jokanovic could even look in any depth at what was left at the lane. We are playing catch up on recruitment all the good players may well have gone by now. Catch up on tactics. Catch up on pre season fitness I know Covid hasn't helped but it is same for a lot of clubs.
I think it is fair to say the dithering from the owner has thrown away two months of this season along with our parachute payments so I can understand that patience is wearing a bit thin with some fans. I have already wrote this season off as one of rebuilding a run into the play off's would be a fantastic acheivement as things stand now.
 
Lukey said:
Saw the "sack Slav" post. Just thought i'd post.

Slav didn't start one season well for us but each time we ended up playing the best football in the division by the end of the season. We were unlucky (in his first full season) in the playoffs against Reading and then went up deservedly against Villa, after only just missing out on 2nd. We went on a 23 game unbeaten run, started by a Ryan Sessegnon hatrick away at some team in Sheffield who i think were 1st or 2nd at the time. We were around mid table at that point.

He tinkers for about half a season, gradually getting less and less so, before finally playing the same side every week. If you are doing your business late (like our very own Tony Khan does) then i'd imagine it will be Christmas time before you start winning ALL your games. In the mean time i wouldn't panic (although that's always hard in football circles).

I remember Watford coming to the cottage and tonking us 5-0 once with Slav as manager. Unbelievable football and an absolute legend. One of my favourite ever managers. Charlie Cooper (This Country) referred to him as "beautiful" in the run up ton Wembley, which is about right.

Well, anyway, good luck with the season.

...And can i just say, next time when i leave Brammall Lane after an inevitable loss, can you please make sure that us posh Londoners don't get abused by your Father/young-son combos (in the exact same spot each time). Although extraordinary, it wasn't very becoming! : )
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Hopefully today was the first sign that you were right that Jokanovic takes time to get going.
 
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