COVID Passport

[Harrisblade]

Good point…there will always be exceptions to make a case regards anything.
Even the hospitalisation data isn’t so clear. Apparently last year many covid patients needed to spend 1 to 2 weeks in hospital.
Whereas now according to a NHS representative covid patients are spending 1….2 or 3 nights max in hospital.
The treatment and understanding of covid has improved massively compared to last year.

I make personal risk assessments based on each situation using experience and facts, Most people I know who have had covid didn’t even have symptoms or had very minor symptoms.

It’s all about context and putting things into perspective, driving is incredibly dangerous but we still do it.
Alcohol (directly or indirectly) and obesity cause an incredible amount of deaths….should we ban alcohol and junk food?
1000’s die from flu every year…it’s a killer but in the past society hasn’t given it the respect it deserves. Without a vaccine I’d agree with extending lock down but now that vulnerable people are 95% protected from serious illness and hospitalisation then it makes sense to try and live normal lIves

The reality is that even with no vaccine if you are under 60 and have no health conditions you’re very unlikely to die…with a vaccine it’s virtually impossible to die unless you fall in the very elderly and having health condition groups….so like driving a car I’m prepared to accept the minimal risk.
I‘d rather die early knowing I’ve lived a life…instead of living to a great age hiding in the shadows
but I respect everyone is different with different values and experiences….so I’ve no problem with anyone thinking differently.

"I‘d rather die early knowing I’ve lived a life…instead of living to a great age hiding in the shadows"
Drama Queen of the Year

 

[Oldun]

Good point…there will always be exceptions to make a case regards anything.
Even the hospitalisation data isn’t so clear. Apparently last year many covid patients needed to spend 1 to 2 weeks in hospital.
Whereas now according to a NHS representative covid patients are spending 1….2 or 3 nights max in hospital.
The treatment and understanding of covid has improved massively compared to last year.

I make personal risk assessments based on each situation using experience and facts, Most people I know who have had covid didn’t even have symptoms or had very minor symptoms.

It’s all about context and putting things into perspective, driving is incredibly dangerous but we still do it.
Alcohol (directly or indirectly) and obesity cause an incredible amount of deaths….should we ban alcohol and junk food?
1000’s die from flu every year…it’s a killer but in the past society hasn’t given it the respect it deserves. Without a vaccine I’d agree with extending lock down but now that vulnerable people are 95% protected from serious illness and hospitalisation then it makes sense to try and live normal lIves

The reality is that even with no vaccine if you are under 60 and have no health conditions you’re very unlikely to die…with a vaccine it’s virtually impossible to die unless you fall in the very elderly and having health condition groups….so like driving a car I’m prepared to accept the minimal risk.
I‘d rather die early knowing I’ve lived a life…instead of living to a great age hiding in the shadows
but I respect everyone is different with different values and experiences….so I’ve no problem with anyone thinking differently.

What experience and facts are you using to base this personal risk assessment on mate? Your information form an ‘NHS representative’ (whatever that is) isn’t correct for a start.

 

[SUFC Guy]

FFS. We're going round in circles here. You're Scaremongering yourself. Repeat. I have been to TEN Large Capacity Sporting Events since the beginning of June.
No compulsory masks
Sing your heart out
Quick extra check to get in
Queues as normal
What the fuck are you worried about arrows to the bogs for?
Full rows of people, sat next to total strangers

Me. Who is writing this post. I've done that TEN Times. You're worrying and moaning about shit that has not been required at all in English sporting grounds. Do not dig yourself in over stupid misunderstandings & rumours.

I agree about arrows to the bogs

 

[robbiez666]

The problem at football games won't be in the stands. Unless you're tonguing your mates it's pretty safe. It'll be in the concourse or on the bus or in the pub before and after. Or in the bogs

I suspect they'll do what major events have been doing, covid passport ( 2 jabs plus 14) or negative test within 48i hours. I don't really see the problem unless people are determined to make it a problem, and they will. Will probably add 15-30 minutes extra time getting in at first. I'm sure there might even be a way to link it to your season ticket.

And, quite obviously but people seem to not get this, you're not just making a risk assessment for yourself you're doing it for those around you.

 

[Keen Blade]

With the state of the KOP bogs I am surprised a hazmat suits has not been required to enter them.

Fuck me , there's now a roof plus H & C running water !
I hate that feckin roof , used to love pissing up that smooth brick wall al fresco - games fallen apart really

 

[Keen Blade]

Fuck me , there's now a roof plus H & C running water !
I hate that feckin roof , used to love pissing up that smooth brick wall al fresco - games fallen apart really

Might be a false memory - it could have been lined with black concrete - the smooth brick wall might have been at junior school.
# places I've had a piss

 

[Rusty]

And hopefully it'll reduce the number of dirty twats that don't seem capable of washing their hands after using the toilet too, now they know how important it is. I won't hold my breath though

And the ones who turn/press the tap and dart their fingertips under for about half a second and race off shaking their obviously soaking wet drenched hands....twatheads

 

[jt64]

And, quite obviously but people seem to not get this, you're not just making a risk assessment for yourself you're doing it for those around you.

Yeah. If I'm ill, I won't be going to the game. If someone else is that scared of the millions to one chance of them becoming ill from someone who isn't ill passing them a bug outside when they have been offered a vaccine to protect them against said bug, then they should not go. It's their problem if they're that risk averse, and I'm not quite sure how said people would actually be able to do other equally dangerous things, like crossing the road or having a bath. You can drown in them, be careful!

 

[Sheffsteel]

"I‘d rather die early knowing I’ve lived a life…instead of living to a great age hiding in the shadows"
Drama Queen of the Year

It does sound a bit dramatic but I thought it poetic…basically live must go on.
You can put my quote on my gravestone.

 

[Greystones Blade]

I think it would be better as ‘life must go on’

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

It does sound a bit dramatic but I thought it poetic…basically live must go on.
You can put my quote on my gravestone.

Gaini Blade is forced to hide in the shadows as his gothic DNA means his delicate complexion is vulnerable above 18 degrees.

 

[guancheblade]

I could not do it via the App as there isn’t an option just advice, but someone on here today gave a link to get Covid passport and I followed it, sorted in two minutes and promised through post in 5 days, you need your nhs number

Do you mind spreading the love then? Ta

 

[INTAKE BLADE]

Covid passports are the beginning of the end, the behavioural psychologists at SAGE have done a fantastic job instilling fear. One of them is Communist for the last 40yrs Susan Michie who blocks anyone with a different opinion to her. I had covid 17 months ago, yeah it wasnt nice I ended up at Hospital for tests and heart scan etc, i still have compromised smell and taste which is a bummer, but good news i still have antibodies after all this time,
The corrupt Government do not recognise natural immunity because there's no money in it, I won't be taking their "vaccine" even though it will cost me my job in the long run, I respect other peoples choices to uptake the jab but it's not for me. Also cases are high because we are testing on 40 cycles again instead of 25 cycles, corrupt. You can get this information from any Hospital under the freedom of information act.

 

[Oldun]

Covid passports are the beginning of the end, the behavioural psychologists at SAGE have done a fantastic job instilling fear. One of them is Communist for the last 40yrs Susan Michie who blocks anyone with a different opinion to her. I had covid 17 months ago, yeah it wasnt nice I ended up at Hospital for tests and heart scan etc, i still have compromised smell and taste which is a bummer, but good news i still have antibodies after all this time,
The corrupt Government do not recognise natural immunity because there's no money in it, I won't be taking their "vaccine" even though it will cost me my job in the long run, I respect other peoples choices to uptake the jab but it's not for me. Also cases are high because we are testing on 40 cycles again instead of 25 cycles, corrupt. You can get this information from any Hospital under the freedom of information act.

Must be exhausting being so cynical. Couple of questions? How do you know you still have natural immunity? Are you having regular antibody studies? The government DO recognise natural immunity for 90 days but the evidence for how long natural immunity lasts is currently lacking. How do you think the NHS would be coping without vaccines? From your own experience natural immunity came at the expense of you being ill enough to be admitted to hospital. The likelihood of this happening if you had been vaccinated would be vastly reduced and therefore would have reduced your own risk and the risk of overloading the NHS. Looking forward to your answers.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Covid passports are the beginning of the end, the behavioural psychologists at SAGE have done a fantastic job instilling fear. One of them is Communist for the last 40yrs Susan Michie who blocks anyone with a different opinion to her. I had covid 17 months ago, yeah it wasnt nice I ended up at Hospital for tests and heart scan etc, i still have compromised smell and taste which is a bummer, but good news i still have antibodies after all this time,
The corrupt Government do not recognise natural immunity because there's no money in it, I won't be taking their "vaccine" even though it will cost me my job in the long run, I respect other peoples choices to uptake the jab but it's not for me. Also cases are high because we are testing on 40 cycles again instead of 25 cycles, corrupt. You can get this information from any Hospital under the freedom of information act.

May I remind you on this thread about demonstrating reduced risk of Covid transmission in order to attend a Sporting Event. (Which I have already done ten times). The certification required at the quick check at the turnstiles allows for so called natural immunity from previously having had Covid. I'm only pointing this out because there are a lot of misunderstandings & rumours circulating.
At EURO games at Wembley (for instance) friends of mine were able to satisfy the quick check by showing proof of natural immunity.

 

[Harrisblade]

It does sound a bit dramatic but I thought it poetic…basically live must go on.
You can put my quote on my gravestone.

Was thinking more of
"I told you you could catch it......"

 

[Penny Black tart]

From what i've heard it's 2 vaccines and a negative test?

stop telling lies and shit stirring, or if you are not lying stop being a total fool, these ru lours are ridiculous.

 

[Liaminho9]

stop telling lies and shit stirring, or if you are not lying stop being a total fool, these ru lours are ridiculous.

Calm down mate - never said it was friend of a friend who works for MI7 but moonlights at Bramall Lane…
Read it in the Daily Mail.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

From what i've heard it's 2 vaccines and a negative test?

I've heard it's now 2 vaccines, a negative test, a hand written note from Chris Whitty and a fiver slipped to the steward at the turnstile.

 

[Liaminho9]

I've heard it's now 2 vaccines, a negative test, a hand written note from Chris Whitty and a fiver slipped to the steward at the turnstile.

Definitely at least £20

 

[MobileBlade]

Definitely at least £20

Thats only in the South Stand

 

[INTAKE BLADE]

Must be exhausting being so cynical. Couple of questions? How do you know you still have natural immunity? Are you having regular antibody studies? The government DO recognise natural immunity for 90 days but the evidence for how long natural immunity lasts is currently lacking. How do you think the NHS would be coping without vaccines? From your own experience natural immunity came at the expense of you being ill enough to be admitted to hospital. The likelihood of this happening if you had been vaccinated would be vastly reduced and therefore would have reduced your own risk and the risk of overloading the NHS. Looking forward to your answers.

Not exhausted or cynical at all, it's my opinion,
I have had 3 antibodie tests the last one was in May and came back positive, the vaccines were not around when I was infected so that point is irrelevant, I still wouldn't take the vaccine for a virus that's 99.7% recovery rate not to mention the medium to long term side effects. Like I said it's my opinion.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Plu

Thats only in the South Stand

Plus you have to sign a statement that says that you haven't been in any of the following countries in the past few weeks: any of them.

 

[Oldun]

Not exhausted or cynical at all, it's my opinion,
I have had 3 antibodie tests the last one was in May and came back positive, the vaccines were not around when I was infected so that point is irrelevant, I still wouldn't take the vaccine for a virus that's 99.7% recovery rate not to mention the medium to long term side effects. Like I said it's my opinion.

So you HAD antibodies. Two months on you might not have. Natural immunity won’t last forever and the vaccine IS available now.

 

[INTAKE BLADE]

So you HAD antibodies. Two months on you might not have. Natural immunity won’t last forever and the vaccine IS available now.

No, I still have antibodies 17 months on.

 

[Penny Black tart]

Not exhausted or cynical at all, it's my opinion,
I have had 3 antibodie tests the last one was in May and came back positive, the vaccines were not around when I was infected so that point is irrelevant, I still wouldn't take the vaccine for a virus that's 99.7% recovery rate not to mention the medium to long term side effects. Like I said it's my opinion.

You make me laugh on the recovery rate, the UK sites and the ONS and the WHO sites all give figures, and they all say the same, the mortality rate from covid is around 3%, not huge but when worldwide figures are looked at, today it stands at 189,888,905 cases (and of course there has to be that many untracked cases, particularly with asymptomatic and china telling lies, deaths 4,085,915, that is currently 2.15%, although worldwide there is still 12,551,144 not recovered, many in hospital. but it isn't the figures you quote. I still think Bramall Lane should open with no masks unless personal choice, no segregation, no half empty stadiums and no passports, but simply correcting figures.

 

[Oldun]

No, I still have antibodies 17 months on.

No you HAD antibodies in May. Nobody knows if you still do until you have another antibody test.

 

[Oldun]

The majority of Covid patients in UK hospitals at the minute are under 50, unvaccinated, and were previously fit and well with no long term health conditions.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

The majority of Covid patients in UK hospitals at the minute are under 50, unvaccinated, and were previously fit and well with no long term health conditions.

Yo have a link for that?

 

[INTAKE BLADE]

The majority of Covid patients in UK hospitals at the minute are under 50, unvaccinated, and were previously fit and well with no long term health conditions.

York and Scarborough Hospitals are mainly double vaxxed patients.