Open Letter To Richard Batho

[lenners]

It's so easy to comment on these forums.

I just wonder why some of the vocal ones on here don't chat to the men they talk about.

I met Trevor Birch recently and he listens to what you say.

Some should try it.

It is indeed very easy and a place where Blades fans communicate on a regular basis.
How odd that the fans' rep would find it so difficult.

 

[SwissBlade]

Boo, if he can't communicate with fans pro-actively, he's a waste of space.

I'm just glad he's not as lazy as you lenners, I made a quick check on the Fans section of the OS and here is a little info from February, its titled 'Get in Touch'. (i suggest you do that):

The Blades are putting together a number of fan working groups following the appointment of Richard Batho as Supporters' Communications Manager.

These groups are already taking shape, thanks to a number of supporters kindly volunteering their time to join one of the groups.

If any supporters who have not been in touch yet would like email Richard to let him know they wish to be involved, please do at [email protected]

The working groups are under four headings
- Retail issues looking at all aspects of Blades retail activities
- Ticketing, working with the club on all aspects of the ticketing issues
- Matchday experience
- Communications (web site/programme)

The initial aims are
- To establish forums for supporters to communicate directly with the club in a structured manner
- To help the club better understand the issues that most affect and concern our fans
- To give the club an opportunity to explain the thinking behind key decisions
- To enable fans to play a key role in helping the club achieve success off the pitch

The long term aims are
- To enhance the relationship between United and our supporters
- To help ensure fans feel their loyalty is valued by United
- To help improve United for the benefit of all supporters

If you can help, have an opinion or would like to get in touch, please feel free to email Richard at the address above.

I've never heard of anyone taking up a public role who then requires the public he's meant to work for having to ask him what his role is.

Well all you had to do was click on the Blades website, which as we all know is the simplest place to look...

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It is indeed very easy and a place where Blades fans communicate on a regular basis.
How odd that the fans' rep would find it so difficult.

What use would it serve, he has other communications means set up - Working groups and his email...

 

[silverfox]

It is indeed very easy and a place where Blades fans communicate on a regular basis.
How odd that the fans' rep would find it so difficult.

I find it very very difficult to communicate with you. (It is a two way thing)

I'm sure others do!

 

[SwissBlade]

http://www.s24su.com/showthread.php?22619-A-Chat-With-Richard-Batho.&p=324300&viewfull=1#post324300

Guys and Gals,

I've arranged a meeting with Richard at the Tunnel bar at 10am on Saturday 9th April (Boro Match).

Anyone is welcome, All he asks is if you have a point or question to ask him, can you make it Constructive? He can't and won't answer rants and angry fans.

It would also put a stop to open forums like this for fans.

Kopped

Did you go to this Lenners? This was an open invite, just the sort of communication you claim isn't there.

I know you saw this as you replied a number of times on that thread

 

[Big Mart]

The long term aims are
- To enhance the relationship between United and our supporters
- To help ensure fans feel their loyalty is valued by United
- To help improve United for the benefit of all supporters

He's not got off to a very good start then has he

 

[lenners]

http://www.s24su.com/showthread.php?22619-A-Chat-With-Richard-Batho.&p=324300&viewfull=1#post324300




Did you go to this Lenners? This was an open invite, just the sort of communication you claim isn't there.

I know you saw this as you replied a number of times on that thread

Sounds great.
How did it go?
How are the working groups going?
What was the outcome of their representations to the club?
Did they make any?
Is it on the website?

 

[SwissBlade]

Sounds great.
How did it go?
How are the working groups going?
What was the outcome of their representations to the club?
Did they make any?
Is it on the website?

I don't know Lenners, I'm not the one obsessed with Batho

I was hoping with the amount of complaints that you have - most of which fit in with Batho's remit, that you'd be the one eagerly telling us
- about your morning with Batho before the Boro game,
- your email responses back on your well constructed emails to him,
- your feedback and opinion of how your working group is going and
- your view on the representations you made to the club
(If you made any)

None of which is on the OS (Sadly) but you would've clarified who was going to communicate all this lovely stuff during the meetings and emails wouldn't you?

Of course we all know that you won't have budged your arse to attend the meetings/ join the groups. You're happy to raise a call to arms on here to boycott season ticket purchases, but give you the means to put your (often valid) points across, you can't be arsed can you?

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Is this the right thread for an argument.....

 

[boo radley]

Boo, if he can't communicate with fans pro-actively, he's a waste of space.
I've never heard of anyone taking up a public role who then requires the public he's meant to work for having to ask him what his role is.
As for reading forums, he deigned to tell Foxy and Linz to inform his public that he was taking time to read ticket ideas on here.
Sadly, he appeared not to have deigned to tell Foxy and Linz to inform his public what the outcome of any of that process was.
As was pointed out at the time of his appointment, it's all about communication.
Brownie's initial post spells out eloquently what those communication failures have and continue to be.

So you'd like him to start posting on here like Strafford then?

Brownies OP is not all true though is it, as pointed out before.
Others also dont want Brownie to appear as spokesman for them - is that the eloquence you speak of

 

[Vancouver]

I think the only way Batho would satisfy Len would be for him to arrive at Len's door armed with a series of press releases and access to the web CMS so he could live stream his meeting with the All Seeing Eye... that's if he could be bothered to open his door to Batho.

 

[silverfox]

It's a wonder that Foxy and Linz continue to try with some of the stuff that gets posted on here!

Most would have pulled the plug by now to be honest.

And before anyone comments......why not start your own forum!

 

[BladeHearts]

I think the only way Batho would satisfy Len would be for him to arrive at Len's door armed with a series of press releases and access to the web CMS so he could live stream his meeting with the All Seeing Eye... that's if he could be bothered to open his door to Batho.

In the contrary world of Len, I dont think there is anything Batho could possibly say or do to satisfy him.

His opinions seem to be consistently the polar opposite of anything the club decide to do.

 

[lenners]

I think the only way Batho would satisfy Len would be for him to arrive at Len's door armed with a series of press releases and access to the web CMS so he could live stream his meeting with the All Seeing Eye... that's if he could be bothered to open his door to Batho.

Lordy, and I think we've got a divine right to be in the Premiership.
Tis allus the same, when folk can't deal with the substantive issues they resort to inanities.
May I gently remind you of who actually wrote the eloquent, sensible opening post?
May I ask you what Batho has done in his 4 months in post to achieve any of the aims?
Or do you think I should ask him?

 

[silverfox]

Lordy, and I think we've got a divine right to be in the Premiership.
Tis allus the same, when folk can't deal with the substantive issues they resort to inanities.
May I gently remind you of who actually wrote the eloquent, sensible opening post?
May I ask you what Batho has done in his 4 months in post to achieve any of the aims?
Or do you think I should ask him?

Surely if you have concerns why ask everyone else but not Batho?

How strange!

 

[boo radley]

May I ask you what Batho has done in his 4 months in post to achieve any of the aims?
Or do you think I should ask him?

Most of us think you should ask him.

He answered my questions quicker than you have.

 

[lenners]

OK,
Dear Richard,
What have you done in your four months in post to achieve any of your aims?
Love,
Lenners.

 

[silverfox]

OK,
Dear Richard,
What have you done in your four months in post to achieve any of your aims?
Love,
Lenners.

Why not email him that like an adult?

 

[SwissBlade]

OK,
Dear Richard,
What have you done in your four months in post to achieve any of your aims?
Love,
Lenners.

Dear Lenners,

Helped get the club nearly 10,000 season tickets whilst you were trying to set up a ST boycott

Regards

The Bathmeister

 

[lenners]

Why not email him that like an adult?

The bizarre thing is you are actually serious.
You really think a paid fans' rep should deal in secret email conversations and not be required to say anything publicly at all.
Truly bizarre.
I've asked Richard what he's been doing - he's free to respond openly so all the fans he represents get an idea.

 

[boo radley]

OK,
Dear Richard,
What have you done in your four months in post to achieve any of your aims?
Love,
Lenners.

No no no lenners, you have to use something called email to [email protected]. I really thought you'd have known that. Then again I should have known better after several people have tried to guide you before before on this forum and your responses remain baffling.

 

[lenners]

Dear Lenners,

Helped get the club nearly 10,000 season tickets whilst you were trying to set up a ST boycott

Regards

The Bathmeister

Interesting.
The fans' rep has helped draw up a plan to alienate supporters.
Did he tell you in an email?

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No no no lenners, you have to use something called email to [email protected]. I really thought you'd have known that. Then again I should have known better after several people have tried to guide you before before on this forum and your responses remain baffling.

Sorry Boo, Richard Batho is paid to represent the fans interests - not yours, not mine, but the fans in general.
That role requires telling all the fans what he's been doing.
Not science de rocket.

 

[Worksop II]

Why not email him that like an adult?

Thats a fair question, I fink

So why dont Batho man up, and reply to Len on here.

Everyone moaning at Len about not emailing Batho, why doesn't Batho show up on here and answer Lenny boy

 

[SwissBlade]

Interesting.
The fans' rep has helped draw up a plan to alienate supporters.
Did he tell you in an email?

Yeah he emailed me that

On that subject, how's the Season ticket boycott going? You seem to be avoiding that one...

Not science de rocket.

Thats neither french nor english, google translate gave me a literal translation of:

"sa science de fusée pas"

 

[BladeHearts]

Thats a fair question, I fink

So why dont Batho man up, and reply to Len on here.

Everyone moaning at Len about not emailing Batho, why doesn't Batho show up on here and answer Lenny boy

Do we really want our club to go down the route of "Strafford Diplomacy"?

By all means invite forum members to submit questions, but coming on line for a verbal square go with someone who consistently sounds like a Wednesday troll doesnt sound a sensible plan to me.

 

[Worksop II]

Do we really want our club to go down the route of "Strafford Diplomacy"?

Batho is the Comms officer aint he, not the MD, CEO or even a Director, thats his job, to communicate - ish - fanwise, tha knows

Comon Batho, show thi sen

 

[SwissBlade]

Batho is the Comms officer aint he, not the MD, CEO or even a Director, thats his job, to communicate - ish - fanwise, tha knows

Comon Batho, show thi sen

Yep, through the methods stated on the OS, no mention of internet forums

 

[boo radley]

Sorry Boo, Richard Batho is paid to represent the fans interests - not yours, not mine, but the fans in general.
That role requires telling all the fans what he's been doing.
Not science de rocket.

You have already been informed that he has responded to several of us who have contacted him. you have also been informed that he reads this forum as well as others. Most people (the fans in general) that you speak of on this forum do not want him to start posting on here Strafford like. I tell you what I'll challenge you. Set up a poll on here with the simple question: Would you like richard Batho to start answering peoples questions on here? yes/no. Then you'll have your answer and in the process you can prove me wrong.

 

[silverfox]

Thats a fair question, I fink

HaHa!

 

[BladeHearts]

Batho is the Comms officer aint he, not the MD, CEO or even a Director, thats his job, to communicate - ish - fanwise, tha knows

Comon Batho, show thi sen

True, but surely you can only communicate with those who are prepared to listen. There would be nothing dignified in an on-line spat with someone who consistently argues that black is white and vice versa - sometimes in the same thread!!!

 

[NE Blade]

Perhaps 50,000 concerned Blades should all email Batho and then he can reply to each email individually. Yes, that would make sense.

Alternatively may be Lenners should email Batho and post Batho's response on here for all to read. Actually, wouldn't that make Lenners the fans rep instead of Batho?