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right, each person is entitled to their own opinion, and i am fine with that. The purpose of this thread, is for people to offer a viable alternative and to offer a manager who we can afford, and will do a better job next season. I'm sick of people just constantly having a go at Adams, without looking at who is out there to replace him.

P.S Chris Hughton and Roberto Di Matteo are not realistic alternatives as they will be too expensive and will have much bigger and better offers coming in.

Have your say......
 



Well said Blader. I offer no alternative until Micky has had a full season with his own players.
 
right, each person is entitled to their own opinion, and i am fine with that. The purpose of this thread, is for people to offer a viable alternative and to offer a manager who we can afford, and will do a better job next season.

Any poster on this board who would not select Collins and Doyle
John Pemberton
 
Me.
My mum.
My gran.
One of the 5k season ticket holders we have just lost.
Any of the 18k that attended on Tuesday night.
Any fucking half wit you drag of the street in Sheffield.
The manager of the Dog and Duck in town.
 
SOD
Pembo
Sheridan

Anyone who trusts their players to play football. Anyone who can organise and motivate without thinking all he has to do is push his weight around and 'show em who the boss is'

Anyone other than this pathetic dinasour.
 
SOD
Pembo
Sheridan

Anyone who trusts their players to play football. Anyone who can organise and motivate without thinking all he has to do is push his weight around and 'show em who the boss is'

Anyone other than this pathetic dinasour.

So where would someone like Tony Pulis fit in to your thinking?
 
I dont really see anyone out there who is both attainable and likely to do a better job. I'm not an SOD fan personally, but I doubt he would want the job anyway. When people come up with names like Di Matteo and Hughton I just wonder what planet they are on. When you look at realistically attainable candidates, very few if any have experience of managing a club our size so you're taking a chance if you do bring someone in. For that reason (and looking at our current predicament) I see no reason to remove MA at this moment in time.

Perhaps long term John Pemberton could do the job, but with the work he's doing at the moment I dont think it would be wise. I suggested his name a few days ago but the more I think about it the more I think its not his time yet. He's still a young coach and he's doing a very important job for us. Leave him to get on with that for now.

I'm not saying MA deserves to carry on regardless because he's proved nothing yet, other than that he hasnt got things right. But I look at his track record and I genuinely believe he does have it in him to turn this around. He needs to have a long look at his current methods and rethink - he's not daft so I'm sure he will. He took on a very difficult job and has made mistakes but he is human and as he's prepared to work hard and give it his all.....I think he deserves the opportunity to fix it. We all make mistakes, its what we do to make amends that counts.
 
Good call Blader.

Now just need a couple of questions answering and off we go.

How much are we offering as wages?
What compensation are we willing to pay?
How much will my new man have to spend?
What players are we intending to retain/get rid of?
Can he bring his own back-room staff?
How many of the youth team are being offerred contracts?
 
John Sheridan, Keith Hill, Lee Clark. Whether they'd want to come is a different matter.

As for the prose - I agree with Micalijo. "Anyone who trusts their players to play football."
 
So where would someone like Tony Pulis fit in to your thinking?

Good question, fair question.

I would put him in a totally different class of manager as Adams. Yes long ball - cannot deny that obviously, but he's spent very well imo and what he has done to Stoke is for me a minor miracle. I think staying up in Prem requires alot more than shouting at players (not that Adams does that on matchdays I must say) and knocking it long. Stoke have some very good, top class players. With a bit of luck against Wigan we could easily be in their shoes now wondering which £5m players we'd be signing in the summer.

Adams has also achieved what I previously thought impossible but that is nowt to shout about.
 
Well said Blader. I offer no alternative until Micky has had a full season with his own players.

We can look forward to more Doyle's and Collin's types then huh?

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right, each person is entitled to their own opinion, and i am fine with that. The purpose of this thread, is for people to offer a viable alternative and to offer a manager who we can afford, and will do a better job next season. I'm sick of people just constantly having a go at Adams, without looking at who is out there to replace him.

P.S Chris Hughton and Roberto Di Matteo are not realistic alternatives as they will be too expensive and will have much bigger and better offers coming in.

Have your say......

To be honest, Adams has until the end of the season to repair his reputation. He needs to ditch players who have failed him during his time here including Doyle and Collins. I think if he ditched that pair I would be more confident he understood thee situation and wasn't just being a stubborn git
 
When people come back with the suggestion "anyone but Adams", I can't help but cringe. These will have been the same people who said "anyone but Blackwell" and "anyone but Robson". Well, Adams falls into the first category and Blackwell into the second. So you've got exactly what you wished for, no? YOUR FAULT! :D
 
Why would Lee Clark and Keith Hill want to leave when they could go up this season? Lee Clark's name was mentioned for Prem jobs in the past, I can't see him coming to manage us in League 1 next year.

Besides, we don't have any money to be paying compo to these teams.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, shoot me down if you want but Paul Ince. He had County playing some good football, but had a bad run of results before he left. He's won cups and promotion with MK. He's not in a job and the moment, and, if County could afford, I expect we also could. And he wasn't a bad player in his day.
 



None of it matters until the club has leadership right at the top.
Until that's sorted, the downward spiral will continue whoever is manager.
 
right, each person is entitled to their own opinion, and i am fine with that. The purpose of this thread, is for people to offer a viable alternative and to offer a manager who we can afford, and will do a better job next season. I'm sick of people just constantly having a go at Adams, without looking at who is out there to replace him.

P.S Chris Hughton and Roberto Di Matteo are not realistic alternatives as they will be too expensive and will have much bigger and better offers coming in.

Have your say......

So (and to back up G2000) we can pick a new manager but neither of the above 2 (who are both out of work) because of better offers (from who by the way).

A couple I would hazard a guess at.

Paul Ince (zero compo and not big cost, young enough and tries to play proper football)
SOD, because he is obviously far better than the absolute bilge we have employed recently.
I would also take a pop at Alan Curbishley but would doubt he would go near the poison challice
Whats Gary Johnson up to these days?
Andy Scott until he went to Rotherham
Martin Allen until he went to Notts County
Isn't Steve McLaren out of work currently?
John Hughes (formerly of Hibs)

All or none may be better than what we have but what it proves is without actually looking too deep there were and are better managers than we have/have had. We have never selected Managers in a good way in my opinion. It always seems to be via a criteria of who can fight the best fire with a limited budget or who is cheap.

Also, we are so anti-football these days we always end up with some big boot merchent because they are seen as quick fixes. Why can't we employ someone who actually gets us playing football on the deck? Bolton did it and have turned themselves into a better club in 12 months.

We could have been the best possible club to manage but we have (inside 5 years) become one of the worst picks a manager could make.
 
WE will continue with Mickey until Morgs is ready for the role. All the rest is just wasting your keyboard.

YOGI??????
 
P.S Chris Hughton and Roberto Di Matteo are not realistic alternatives as they will be too expensive and will have much bigger and better offers coming in.

That's a rather defeatist statement to make. We have one of the richest blokes in the country at the helm, why would we not be able to afford them? As to bigger and better offers, how long has Hughton been kicking his heels now?
 
None of it matters until the club has leadership right at the top.
Until that's sorted, the downward spiral will continue whoever is manager.

Perfect summing up of where the club is now. I only hope KM is working on a top to bottom review and planning a long term strategy for the whole club rather than half arsed sound bites with no substance like the Blades Way. If he remains silent and we continue as we are then next season will be very difficult whoever is in charge.
 
SOD
Pembo
Sheridan

Anyone who trusts their players to play football. Anyone who can organise and motivate without thinking all he has to do is push his weight around and 'show em who the boss is'

Anyone other than this pathetic dinasour.

You were at the Boro game weren't you Mic, I was having a beer with someone who claimed to be you before hand!

The football we played was decent (as it was v Leeds) but was limited by the fact that we have a leaky defence and we (Hendo) couldn't put the ball in the back of the net when it was on a plate.

I'll stick my neck out and say it was decent football in spells to create those chances as well.
 
John Sheridan, Keith Hill, Lee Clark. Whether they'd want to come is a different matter.

As for the prose - I agree with Micalijo. "Anyone who trusts their players to play football."

But you can't trust the present squad to play football, for the simple reason they are fucking rubbish.
 
Anyone else will do, they can not do any worse but you never know may do a lot better
 
Kevin Blackwell is still out of work, isn't he? And isn't he still on the payroll?

Seriously, we should stick with the manager we have. Statistically, football clubs never succeed when they have multiple managers in a season, and we have already had four this season. A manager needs at least a season, probably two, to get his players in and get a team playing his way. Immediate success isn't going to come with the appointment of a new manager.
 
Me.
My mum.
My gran.
One of the 5k season ticket holders we have just lost.
Any of the 18k that attended on Tuesday night.
Any fucking half wit you drag of the street in Sheffield.
The manager of the Dog and Duck in town.

I'm sure you'll know by next week who it is likely to be!
 
You were at the Boro game weren't you Mic, I was having a beer with someone who claimed to be you before hand!

The football we played was decent (as it was v Leeds) but was limited by the fact that we have a leaky defence and we (Hendo) couldn't put the ball in the back of the net when it was on a plate.

I'll stick my neck out and say it was decent football in spells to create those chances as well.


Thats the thing Swiss some of the football has improved alot, yet people just lambast it as hoof, when in fact the majority of our chances of late have come from well worked pieces of play, simple effective passing that has been direct in its approach. Even tuesdays game had the few odd moments of this kind of work, look at the move that set Riise through in the second half, or when Quinn, Lowry and Mattock got out of a bind in the first half with a triangle of passes that people call for.

As for the question at hand, I said it before I won't judge Adams till he's had a pre-season under his belt, he still has alot to work on from his own point of view and the teams point of view.
 
WE will continue with Mickey until Morgs is ready for the role. All the rest is just wasting your keyboard.

YOGI??????

Can't fault what he did with the club to start with. And boy did he play good football. Its about his level as well. And yes, the rest is wasting your keyboard but isn't that what messageboards are?
 
Me.
My mum.
My gran.
One of the 5k season ticket holders we have just lost.
Any of the 18k that attended on Tuesday night.
Any fucking half wit you drag of the street in Sheffield.
The manager of the Dog and Duck in town.

Sheffield is a City and does not have a pub called the Dog and Duck.
 



interesting post.. round these parts 'in town' means the city centre not the status of the city per se.. i believe the dog and duck is a generic term for a 'local' pub
 

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