Turfing

[boo radley]

Someone mentioned this in another thread.
Just a quick one. Do they lay new turf at the Lane at the end of end of every season?
I've got some to do but I might wait till May.
What happens to the old turf if they put new down? can we buy some of our club?

 

[Foxy]

Someone mentioned this in another thread.
Just a quick one. Do they lay new turf at the Lane at the end of end of every season?
I've got some to do but I might wait till May.
What happens to the old turf if they put new down? can we buy some of our club?

I believe they've got it to the stage where it can be re-seeded regularly and grow rather quickly rather than re-turfed.

 

[boo radley]

I believe they've got it to the stage where it can be re-seeded regularly and grow rather quickly rather than re-turfed.

Thats bad news, The wife will want it doing yesterday now.

 

[MunXy]

seeding takes approx 6-10 weeks to grow to playable height, re turf can take anything from 2 -6 weeks for it to bed in enough but over 10 weeks to not cut up as badly.

MunXy

 

[SwissBlade]

I believe they've got it to the stage where it can be re-seeded regularly and grow rather quickly rather than re-turfed.

Surprised to hear that, but then i shouldn't be as it fits with the cheap mentality that the club has adopted

Top sports surfaces nowadays have the individual blades interwoven into a kind of mesh, similar to that on some five a side pitches like at Dronfield

 

[Foxy]

Surprised to hear that, but then i shouldn't be as it fits with the cheap mentality that the club has adopted

Top sports surfaces nowadays have the individual blades interwoven into a kind of mesh, similar to that on some five a side pitches like at Dronfield

We've got Arsenal style lighting to aid the process, what more do you want?

 

[SwissBlade]

We've got Arsenal style lighting to aid the process, what more do you want?

I want McCabe and Birch to come on here and tell us exactly what type of grass seed we're using. Last season they stated that we were using a high end rye grass but now I can see from BladesPlayer that we're using less than 10% Miracle smooth stalked meadow grass in the mix. Just what is the other 90% made up of

 

[i3lade4life]

Ive heard that we are having to resort to digging it up (somewhat illegally) from graves park to save us some money,
Wasnt constant re-turfing the main reason why the new wemberley pitch was a pile of shite????

 

[TAMUS]

We dont want a good pitch , we want a chance of staying up .

 

[Sean the Blade]

Whatever the arguments for seed/turf etc, what you REALLY need is a good roller. This Dingle may have the answer, and at a bargain price too. You MUST read the item description, solid, Dingle gold:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BIG-Lawn-Gras...denEquipment_HandTools_SM&hash=item230f6760a3

 

[madeinsheffield]

Surely we can loan some turf??

 

[Ollessendro]

Boo me owd mucker. Av bin avin turfing problems in me garden fo some time nar. Let me explain.

A few years ago I ad some reit turf. Fuckin butiful. Me neighbours were reit envious. However we had a bad winter n turf started to go a bit funny. I got this gardener in to do some work. He used to be good at cutting trees darn and I thought it could transfer across (or mi landlord did). Mi landlord employed this gardener and gid im loads of cash. He had some reit tools, good seeds, good soil and everythin looked in order. We'd sort it out quick and av an even better garden than before. However, it turned out he were a piss head Geordie who cunt do fuck all. He made a reit mess of the garden and its never bin the same.

We then go this cheap gardner in to fix things. My landlord saw him playing in the net for the Dog and Dug pub team n he thought he'll do. Bought him pints every Friday neet for wages. Cheaps as chips did oreit at first, but then after a while he got reit negative and risk averse. Rather than tryin to build a nice garden, he just tried to feit the weeds.

Mind you, the goaluie had his hands tied. My landlord lost interest in the garden n then he started selling everything. He sold the rake, the shovel, the strimmer, the lawnmower and the hand cutters. If that wernt bad enough, the fuckin two hat started messin with the lawn. He dug up the seeds, started selling off the turf and made a reit mess.

Av bin sayin to him for ages that we need to get the seeds reit. Vuild from the bottom. Use the good seeds. However that plank dint listen. The estage agent tryin to sell the place told him that he'd be better bringin in turf from other gardens. I said it's short term-ism, but them no knowts went ahead. Nar av got a garden that's full of cobbled together pieces of turf from other garden. Most of it acv got to gi back. The seeds are gash and in most places we dunt av owt. It's a reit mess.

This summer I plan to dig it all up and plant some new seeds. Clear out all the aging, loaned and no good turf and start all over agen.

 

[broomhillblade]

I've struggled with my lawn for years. Nothing seems to keep the weeds and moss down.

Today I've got Green Thumb coming. I've been assured that they'll sort it out.

The next thing is to find a way to stop all our neighbours' cats from using it as their toilet. My wife uses a water pistol on them, but they're usually too quick for her.

 

[SwissBlade]

Ollie,

I would suggest that unless your grass is dying (because of a disease) then you should look to repair/ replace in the most economical way, this would generally be through allowing new growth to come through - seeding. But use a decent seed supplier. Quality (fitness for purpose) is key.

But you need to start now Ollie, if there are some good areas of grass, then start to remove the weeds now, spring is a good time for this. And following a hard winter such as the one we've had, scarification is vital. You need to remove the moss that has been allowed to grow, rake out the dead/ dry grass.

Only once you have put this hard work and effort in should you seed, it gives the best chance for the seed to develop.

However, before looking at a complete new lawn solution, you need to consider how you use your grassed areas. Are they subjected to heavy wear? Are they allowed sufficient sunlight, watering etc? What about the recovery time, do you have times where you can carry out maintenance and allow new growth to develop.

This will help you decide:
a) The type of grass to use (there are a great many types and blends, go for the best quality you can afford)
b) the old Turf v seed argument.

All of these decisions you must take with an intelliegent, informed review, perhaps invest in the use of an expert to give you advice. It could be crucial.

Then you need to nuture your choice, if its seed, invest in some protection, there are birds awaiting to pick the new seeds, you don't want to see your very good quality seed being picked off too soon.

If its turf, don't just chuck it down and hope that it takes and matches with what you already have. You need to constantly keep attending to new turf as well, I know its expensive, but perhaps even chuck some seed in between too.

If you have some spare land/ areas which aren't used frequently, perhaps seed these areas, you can slowly develop good healthy turf of your own and those areas where you see are struggling later this year or early next, then you have a ready grown option.

Perhaps ask some friends to donate some of their land to allow you to grow some extra turf. If its good stuff and you don't need it, then you could always sell it off or let them have it for another season or two.

Follow these tips and you'll reep the benefits of a healthy lawn to look out onto from your shed

 

[madeinsheffield]

or do what I did and fit the finest quality astroturf you can afford

 

[Sean the Blade]

Broomhill:

Insofar as your cat problem is concerned, try lion dung, it can be bought from garden centres, I believe Wath GC supply it in 'statues'... honest. Alternatively strategically placed pieces of carpet gripper, on top of fences, areas where the tw*ts shit etc. If all else fails a saucer of tuna laced with antifreeze is a very good long term solution... Although it should be placed out of reach of Hedgehogs! You'll probably need a spade as well.

 

[2ndtenorblade]

these have balls

http://www.jcballs.co.uk/ready_mix_concrete.jcb

 

[Grecian2000]

Insofar as your cat problem is concerned, try lion dung, it can be bought from garden centres, I believe Wath GC supply it in 'statues'...

So the choice is having cats visit your garden or a large pile of Lion shit? Tough choice.

Oi, Clarence get the fuck off my lawn . . . .

 

[Ollessendro]

Ollie,

I would suggest that unless your grass is dying (because of a disease) then you should look to repair/ replace in the most economical way, this would generally be through allowing new growth to come through - seeding. But use a decent seed supplier. Quality (fitness for purpose) is key.

But you need to start now Ollie, if there are some good areas of grass, then start to remove the weeds now, spring is a good time for this. And following a hard winter such as the one we've had, scarification is vital. You need to remove the moss that has been allowed to grow, rake out the dead/ dry grass.

Only once you have put this hard work and effort in should you seed, it gives the best chance for the seed to develop.

However, before looking at a complete new lawn solution, you need to consider how you use your grassed areas. Are they subjected to heavy wear? Are they allowed sufficient sunlight, watering etc? What about the recovery time, do you have times where you can carry out maintenance and allow new growth to develop.

This will help you decide:
a) The type of grass to use (there are a great many types and blends, go for the best quality you can afford)
b) the old Turf v seed argument.

All of these decisions you must take with an intelliegent, informed review, perhaps invest in the use of an expert to give you advice. It could be crucial.

Then you need to nuture your choice, if its seed, invest in some protection, there are birds awaiting to pick the new seeds, you don't want to see your very good quality seed being picked off too soon.

If its turf, don't just chuck it down and hope that it takes and matches with what you already have. You need to constantly keep attending to new turf as well, I know its expensive, but perhaps even chuck some seed in between too.

If you have some spare land/ areas which aren't used frequently, perhaps seed these areas, you can slowly develop good healthy turf of your own and those areas where you see are struggling later this year or early next, then you have a ready grown option.

Perhaps ask some friends to donate some of their land to allow you to grow some extra turf. If its good stuff and you don't need it, then you could always sell it off or let them have it for another season or two.

Follow these tips and you'll reep the benefits of a healthy lawn to look out onto from your shed

sum gud advice dere Swiss owd cock. Ta.

problem is it's a reit mess. Dere's dyin grass everyweer and am not sure if that pub manager of a gardener can tell wot's gud n wot's not. He not really used any of the good news seeds and the turf he has brought in has been mostly crap. It's early days yet, but it's not lookin reit gud. The garden looks a reit mess.

I fink i'll gi im til end o the spring n see ar it guz. If he makes the garden luk alreit (so that I can av Boo, BB, Dunc, Lenners, SC, you, Mic and that fat ex goalie round for a BBQ wi-art bein embarassed) then I fink i'll gi im some more resources. If he meks a proper gu or it n makes the garden look oreit (or really tries - n i'll be watching im) then i'll let him have use of the spade, shovel, new seeds etc.

 

[Sean the Blade]

So the choice is having cats visit your garden or a large pile of Lion shit? Tough choice.

That's why I personally favour the anti-freeze route. The trick is to get the 'dose' right so that they keel over either at home or en-route, in someone else's garden. Then, of course, there's the endless stream of 'missing' posters on lamp posts etc.

I'm not without heart, if they advertise a mobile number I text them from my, unregistered (cos the RSPCA get a bit uppity about you poisoning animals that are poisoning your children's play area), mobile fone, informing them that I have despatched Tiddles after catching him fouling my garden, and advising them that they should take more care of their pets in future.

 

[Bladesway]

That's why I personally favour the anti-freeze route. The trick is to get the 'dose' right so that they keel over either at home or en-route, in someone else's garden. Then, of course, there's the endless stream of 'missing' posters on lamp posts etc.

I'm not without heart, if they advertise a mobile number I text them from my, unregistered (cos the RSPCA get a bit uppity about you poisoning animals that are poisoning your children's play area), mobile fone, informing them that I have despatched Tiddles after catching him fouling my garden, and advising them that they should take more care of their pets in future.

Its good that in this age of "infraction" good ol Animal cruelty just gets glossed over as a bit of a jape.

 

[raul]

Seany lives in Swinton Bladesway, how else is he supposed to feed his kids?

 

[Bladesway]

They feed their kids in Swinton?

 

[Sean the Blade]

Swinton is the posh part of Sheff!

 

[SwissBlade]

sum gud advice dere Swiss owd cock. Ta.

problem is it's a reit mess. Dere's dyin grass everyweer and am not sure if that pub manager of a gardener can tell wot's gud n wot's not. He not really used any of the good news seeds and the turf he has brought in has been mostly crap. It's early days yet, but it's not lookin reit gud. The garden looks a reit mess.

I fink i'll gi im til end o the spring n see ar it guz. If he makes the garden luk alreit (so that I can av Boo, BB, Dunc, Lenners, SC, you, Mic and that fat ex goalie round for a BBQ wi-art bein embarassed) then I fink i'll gi im some more resources. If he meks a proper gu or it n makes the garden look oreit (or really tries - n i'll be watching im) then i'll let him have use of the spade, shovel, new seeds etc.

Get it ripped up then Ollie, level it off, put in a water feature and seed it. Remember preparation is key

But, Based on the developments with the shed, a BBQ is the least of your worries.

But... if you manage to strike a deal and stay in your shed, then I'd say plan your BBQ for around Early Sept. Still a chance of decent weather and it gives the new lawn plenty of chance to grow and allows you the time to see where your best patches of grass are coming through, they'll be the most hard wearing. Ideal for a BBQ with 5+ people.

Tip - Scarify heavily, don't be afraid of the hard work, you need to get rid of all that dead grass. It'll benefit the new stuff coming through in the end
Last tip - Don't send your turf to malta this year, better off in England, it grows better with the british climate

 

[Sean the Blade]

Its good that in this age of "infraction" good ol Animal cruelty just gets glossed over as a bit of a jape.

Almost as much of a jape as the plethora of diseases and ailments, such as toxoplasma, that can be contracted from the 'fouling areas' frequented by fluffykins. Admittedly, they could be despatched with the shotgun, but this is a little dangerous in an area of housing. An airweapon can be ineffective and simply leave the puddy-tat simply wounded.

Until such a time as cat owners take responsibility for their animals, as I do with my dog, I will continue to assume that responsibility for them.

As for EATING the cats, I wouldn't advise this course (no pun intended) as they would, obviously, be full of ethylene glycol, the active ingredient!

I do believe I have been inadvertently been drawn into a troll, about lawns, cats, ant-freeze and lion dung on a football forum, how random is that?

 

[Bladesway]

Swinton is the posh part of Sheff!

Swinton isn't even the posh part of Swinton.

 

[raul]

But how do you work out which little Kitty is responsible for the little present no-one has actually harmed themselves with? Phoreniscs? Taste? What?

 

[Bladesway]

But how do you work out which little Kitty is responsible for the little present no-one has actually harmed themselves with? Phoreniscs? Taste? What?

Maxi Moggi, what a daft idea!

 

[SotonBlade]

Whatever the arguments for seed/turf etc, what you REALLY need is a good roller. This Dingle may have the answer, and at a bargain price too. You MUST read the item description, solid, Dingle gold:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BIG-Lawn-Gras...denEquipment_HandTools_SM&hash=item230f6760a3

Comedy Gold! I dare anyone to ask a question about the item!