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Full Capacity on 7th August?

  • Full House

    Votes: 93 41.9%
  • 50% or less

    Votes: 119 53.6%
  • Empty Stadium

    Votes: 10 4.5%

  • Total voters
    222
phased return... 50% at the start rising to 100% by the end of the season all dependent on vaccine

Normality is when/if we hit 70% vaccination nationally
 



1. No glory hunters/tourists
2. Potential price hikes
3. Covid fears remaining for some people
4. Most people on long overdue holidays abroad

Glory hunters ???????
WTF !!!
Since when has anybody tagged onto us for the glory.

Even as a Premier League club there are only 27,000 - 28,000 of our own fans in the stadium, and it will be the same people in the stadium for the Championship.
 
Glory hunters ???????
WTF !!!
Since when has anybody tagged onto us for the glory.

Even as a Premier League club there are only 27,000 - 28,000 of our own fans in the stadium, and it will be the same people in the stadium for the Championship.
The counter argument is that we didn’t sell out every game last time we were in the Championship and never average more than mid to high 20’s as a Championship club so there will be a drop off.

I think that our fan base is quite fickle, even in the PL after 10+ years away we didn’t sell out all available games (I know some of this was down to poor ticketing policies etc.). We tend to sell out for big teams home and then games with something riding on it (promotion, play-offs, cup latter rounds).

With the pent up absence from grounds I think next season would be a decent crowd first game if we are allowed to go.
 
The counter argument is that we didn’t sell out every game last time we were in the Championship and never average more than mid to high 20’s as a Championship club so there will be a drop off.

I think that our fan base is quite fickle, even in the PL after 10+ years away we didn’t sell out all available games (I know some of this was down to poor ticketing policies etc.). We tend to sell out for big teams home and then games with something riding on it (promotion, play-offs, cup latter rounds).

With the pent up absence from grounds I think next season would be a decent crowd first game if we are allowed to go.
be very interesting to see our ticket prices next season if fans are allowed back in 🤔
 
I would be surprised if stadiums are fully open in August.

Covid has plenty of legs left in it and it just takes a mutation that the vaccines struggle to work with and we're back to square one
 
Will it just be home fans only next season if allowed back or will away fans be allowed as well. I won't be surprised if the Government still don't have DON'T TRAVEL UNLESS YOU HAVE TO scheme to try and keep the number of COVID 19 cases down.
 
Turning into another Covid thread already

The anti vaxers will be here soon

To be fair, I think that was the premise of the original question, looking at the poll.

Personally I expect there'll still be some strict restrictions in place. We'll soon see anyway, now the kids are back and the numbers are likely to go squiffy once again.
 
be very interesting to see our ticket prices next season if fans are allowed back in 🤔
Have we got 4 free games as well?

My prediction would be a slight increase but more than offset by those free games for those who have the credit.
 
I was feeling a tad depressed before reading this thread, feel bleeding suicidal now, I hope Meghan hasn't read it 💀
 
All restrictions are to be lifted on 21st June, that hasn't changed thus far.
At present moment, of course we're getting a full house.
Just because they are lifted does not mean thar everything is back to normal. There are many restrictions that are likely to remain and packing people in grounds/ toilets may well be one of them.
 
phased return... 50% at the start rising to 100% by the end of the season all dependent on vaccine

Normality is when/if we hit 70% vaccination nationally
Needs to be higher than that as it is only around 70% effective meaning only 49% would be truly free
 
Even as a Premier League club there are only 27,000 - 28,000 of our own fans in the stadium, and it will be the same people in the stadium for the Championship.

I assume you wont be one of them if Wilder is still in charge
As you said yourself you refuse to watch that hoofball / turgid / shite football we are playing that we played under Blackwell
 
Don't think there'll be any fans allowed into the ground come the start of the new season. If they are, how will they be admitted? Can't see the turnstiles being used. Hand-held barcode scanners?
 



Don't think there'll be any fans allowed into the ground come the start of the new season. If they are, how will they be admitted? Can't see the turnstiles being used. Hand-held barcode scanners?

Only use every other turnstile and place hand sanitisers outside every turnstile that's in use
 
I assume you wont be one of them if Wilder is still in charge
As you said yourself you refuse to watch that hoofball / turgid / shite football we are playing that we played under Blackwell

Never said anything about wanting Wilder out in my life

But you're right I won't watch turgid hoofball

I've seen enough of that in my lifetime after choosing to support this club, but they're not fobbing me off with sub standard shyte anymore.

That's my choice,
If football wants to go down the route of being a "product" they better at least try to make it a good product, otherwise I'll reject it like I would a cold meal in a restaurant.

Emotion does not come into it anymore for me,

Try to play a bit and I'll come
But I won't watch hoof
 
Never said anything about wanting Wilder out in my life

But you're right I won't watch turgid hoofball

I've seen enough of that in my lifetime after choosing to support this club, but they're not fobbing me off with sub standard shyte anymore.

That's my choice,
If football wants to go down the route of being a "product" they better at least try to make it a good product, otherwise I'll reject it like I would a cold meal in a restaurant.

Emotion does not come into it anymore for me,

Try to play a bit and I'll come
But I won't watch hoof

Youve critiscised our standard of football for the last couple of seasons under Wilder turgid hoofball etc
so I quite rightly assumed you would not be going if Wilder was in charge
You say you dont Wilder out Im mystifyed by that if you dont like the football his team are playing
Do you have a Season Ticket ?
If you have one or have purchased one in the past do you ask the club if they are going to play fast flowing football during the coming season before you buy one ?
** Do you ever go out and have fun ?

** In normal non Covid circumstances
 
Totally agree...rise in infections is not an issue if it does not lead to serious illness/death and hospitalisation and the early evidence from vaccines is it will achieve exactly this. In fact it is preferable given it will provide greater herd immunity. The efficacy of the vaccines are c90% across the board after a single shot and only slightly increase after the second (albeit will likely provide longer immunity). Take up is c90%. The SAGE modelling influencing the lock down/opening up is based on the Flu vaccine, c70% take up and c60% efficacy. A normal year between 10k-30K deaths from Flu (apparently none this year...bollox!) by end of this month excess deaths will fall significantly below 5year rolling average. If the above as expected plays out and restrictions remain in place beyond June and as a country we accept and comply then more fools us!
Flu vaccine is under 50% efficacy flu deaths is not none it’s around 5000 well down on previous years
Which is understandable considering the restrictions from the pandemic and the increase in take up the flu vaccine
 
Yes we may be destined for the Championship. But with us all desperate to get back to the Lane and the associated hostelries, I fully expect us to maintain a solid 27k average next season.
 
I have the covid jab and I get the second jab in a couple of months. However, I can,t imagine those who have had both jabs by August will be allowed in stadiums.
Over 50,s only no chance no atmosphere. will people of all ages get both jabs before August?.64m dollar question.
 
Needs to be higher than that as it is only around 70% effective meaning only 49% would be truly free
a nursing friend told me the newest research demonstrates the vaccine protects to a much higher percentage (close to 100%) against the chances of the transmission from an infected person, soon to be aired in the media... promising if true!
 
Pretty confident of 33% limit but with some countries like Brazil not taking up vaccines more variants could emerge and that would then depend on another jab and stadiums could again be empty by November if the jab delayed

unfortunately this is probably what will happen

so get your jab when offered it
 
a nursing friend told me the newest research demonstrates the vaccine protects to a much higher percentage (close to 100%) against the chances of the transmission from an infected person, soon to be aired in the media... promising if true!
Let’s hope she is correct.
I have a daughter who is a nurse and one who is a medical research scientist : neither of them are that optimistic
 
I don't mean to put a downer on things, but do honestly people think we are going to be "back to normal" by August? Unfortunately, this pandemic will go on for many years now, the virus will mutate (which it already has) and we will have outbreaks of new strains and measures will be in place. So not a full stadium will not in place for a very long time. The phrase "back to normal" is a comment that our useless government has said not leading health experts.

Don't forget we were going to be "back to normal" for summer last year, then Christmas, then Easter. Please put things into perspective and be realistic.
 
a nursing friend told me the newest research demonstrates the vaccine protects to a much higher percentage (close to 100%) against the chances of the transmission from an infected person, soon to be aired in the media... promising if true!
If it’s not in the media, how does she know? It’s not really plausible that all the nurses in the country have been told this but the press isn’t aware of it.
 
If it’s not in the media, how does she know? It’s not really plausible that all the nurses in the country have been told this but the press isn’t aware of it.
i’d imagine it goes something like: research gets undertaken without the results getting published, local nhs heads get briefed or have friends in research, and the news trickles down as rumours within NHS Trusts

We used to get all sorts of info working in hospital long before things were published in media, but it all depended on how strict the managers were with confidential info from meetings
 



Think most clubs are in for a shock at the drop in attendances ,lucky if we get 15k season ticket holders
 

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