For the greater good of Sheffield Football is now the time to merge?

[gavtheblade]

can you imagine both sets of RE-UNITED fans sat together in perfect harmony??...........bullfeckin shyte.
1.Majority of pig fans are over weight.
2.Thick.
3.In bred.
4.There heads are nearly as big as there bellies.
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BE SAT AMONGST THAT.??????????!
YOUR ON YOUR OWN.

 

[The One]

Don't talk rubbish...forget about merging.

 

[travellingblade]

Once the dust has settled we COULD attract 40,000+ every week and could genuinely threaten the top half of the Premiership.

One of the things that you miss, out of the current regular attendees at both Bramall Lane & Hillsborough, are supporters who have "moved away", but make the trip "home" to see their favourite team.

I'm one of those people, and regularly travel with my son, wife, and grandchildren to see our beloved Blades. I / we have NO affinity to Sheffield, other than an annual visit to Meadowhall for Christmas shopping, so Sheffield City FC (or whatever it would be called) would never see us again, other than if the home games were played at Bramall Lane, the team play in red & white stripes, and the club contained the name "United" and not "Wednesday".

We'd start watching Lincoln City, more regularly than we currently do.

A new club would have no debt, the current clubs would disappear and it would be a new company.
Part of merging could involve using receipts from the sale of both grounds though.

If the 2 teams were liquidated, then so would be their League status, so which Division would this new club join?

 

[Yossarian]

So you're telling me my time was wasted this morning designing the shirt and badge?

 

[oldblade]

Look at the state of us, look at the state of them. We are going to be playing in the same division next season and for too long a city the size of Sheffield has underperformed in footballing terms.

In 1979-80 Sheffield football was in just as bad a state. Both sides being in the third division. 12 years later, both were in what is now the premier league.

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Wheres this massive supporter base ? You would lose 90% of both clubs supporters who would simply pack it in.
I'm a Sheffield UNITED fan ,no other club has any interest to me at all ,and I bet I speak for at least 90% of posters on here.

Hear, Hear.

 

[raul]

Michael Palin would go.

 

[judge]

Michael Palin would go.

he could be manager of the newly formed sheffield pigs

 

[norfolkblade]

So you're telling me my time was wasted this morning designing the shirt and badge?

Yes. Wearing anything on my chest resembling an owl will never, ever happen. As for the merger, pfffffffffffffft, are you off your fucking heads?!

 

[broomhillblade]

If the 2 teams were liquidated, then so would be their League status, so which Division would this new club join?

Exactly. Conference if you're lucky.
If mergers were easy then I imagine other clubs would have done it. I can't recall one amongst Football League clubs during the past 60 years or so. There's so much money washing around the game right now - and people out to make a fast buck - then it cannot be an attractive business model.

 

[beightonblade]

Magic ....................

White from their kit red from ours .................. Sheffield from their name United from ours........... course we'd have to play at BDTBL cause pigsborough is miles away and fallin down !

Like swollen says i'd sooner eat shite !

 

[mickle-blade]

Look at the state of us, look at the state of them. We are going to be playing in the same division next season and for too long a city the size of Sheffield has underperformed in footballing terms.

There are two ways of looking at this. One is the traditionalist "there have always been two teams and there should always be two teams". I fall into this camp as a rule. If you do however you have to take with it the utter shite that has come the way of both us and them over the last thirty or so years. So you have to shrug and take it.

However if you take an alternative view and merge the clubs, forget the "where will we play" and "what colours shall we play in" it makes utter and total sense. Football has already sold its soul to the devil and its never coming back. So if we want to join the bandwagon we should merge what we have, cash in on selling one or both of the grounds, get the council to help us in the redevelopment of somewhere and stack up a big 50,000 all seater stadium.

We would have a massive supporter base, we would in time eclipse Leeds United as the biggest club in Yorkshire and we would be in the Premier League inside 10 years. We would be a genuine investment opportunity as well.

Once the dust has settled we could attract 40,000+ every week and could genuinely threaten the top half of the Premiership.

The downside is that we would have sold our soul.

In a word NO !!
It would just say that I have wasted 50 years of my life !
Football can sell it's soul to the highest bidder.
My soul is not for sale.

 

[beechblade]

No, I would pack it in. I'm a Blade and a Blade only.

 

[broomhillblade]

can you imagine both sets of RE-UNITED fans sat together in perfect harmony??...........bullfeckin shyte.
1.Majority of pig fans are over weight.
2.Thick.
3.In bred.
4.There heads are nearly as big as there bellies.
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BE SAT AMONGST THAT.??????????!
YOUR ON YOUR OWN.

Careful now.... pots and kettles.

 

[Crazyblade]

No, I would pack it in. I'm a Blade and a Blade only.

This. End of story.

Any talk of a merger can shove it up their ass. Sideways.

 

[oldblade]

I'm pretty sure Notts County were once a decent size, not any more.
There's no reason why United should always remain a good-sized club, particularly as loyalties just aren't the same as they used to be. Which is part of the reason why a merger would eventually work.

Indeed, as recently as the 1972-3 and 1973-4 seasons, Notts County actually had a higher average attendances than Forest .

However, I have to say a merged Sheffield club would have no interest at all for me because it would not be Sheffield United.

 

[Nick Jansky]

For me, its not about money, and its not about being able to "compete" in that stupid league above us. Its about supporting MY team, wherever they find themselves in the pyramid, and all the emotional investment I have made in them over many years.

I suspect that if a merger ever happened the chief beneficiaries might be Sheffield FC and Stocksbridge Park Steels.

 

[sheffielder]

I have to question whether your a blade or not if you would even think about this idea. If it was all about winning I wouldn't support Sheffield United.
This city has many problems including having many armchair supporters of Manure or whoever wins the league next year, your just becoming another one of these plastic fans

 

[sothall blade]

This. End of story.

Any talk of a merger can shove it up their ass. Sideways.

correct young man,with you all the way:thumbdown:

 

[silverfox]

Chasing success.
Chasing success with other peoples money.
Chasing success by selling yourself to the devil.

Where does it all end?

 

[JohnDenver]

If there was a merger and the resultant team wasn't regularly challenging for Europe then the move would be seen as one of the worst decisions in football history. Clubs can only succeed these days with major financial backing, and I don't see why a merged club would suddenly attract the sort of idiotic billionaire benefactor that's required. They may as well just buy Wendy now and get on with it.

Either United or Wendy could easily survive in the lower half of the Prem given good management, a respectable investment of funds and a bit of good fortune. We both happen to have none of those elements, but it'll change in the future.

It'd be funny* if they merged and ended up like Dirty Leeds (the equivalent one city club), floundering around being massive in the lower leagues. Without silly money, that's entirely possible, and you've pissed 250 years of combined history straight up the wall marked 'greed'.

*you know what I mean...



PS - the more I think about this thread the angrier I get. Tribal loyalty aside, the whole thing disgusts me to the core.

 

[Jehovah]

I would rather slice my own balls upen with rusty razors than merge with those pieces of shit.

 

[Yossarian]

I wonder how many opinions would soften if we found ourselves in administration.

It's a game people. Nobody is asking you to become ginger French Muslims.

 

[Nick Jansky]

It's a game people.

In the same way that the works of Shakespeare are so much paper & ink.

Of course its far more than just a game. Its about tribalism, loyalty, rites of passage, a sense of history and developing an emotional attachment built up over a lifetime. If its only a game, we might as well all support Man U.

 

[Silverware]

I wonder how many opinions would soften if we found ourselves in administration.

It's a game people. Nobody is asking you to become ginger French Muslims.

Bonsoir Yoss. Merger - Jamais! Assalaam-O-Alaikum

 

[oldblade]

I wonder how many opinions would soften if we found ourselves in administration.

It's a game people. Nobody is asking you to become ginger French Muslims.

I think most would still have the same attitude.

For me it's not a case of baulking at merging with Wednesday. I don't want us to merge with anyone. As far as I am concerned if we do that, the team I currently support will cease to exist. It will no longer be Sheffield United, the club I chose above all other clubs.

I would cease travelling back to Sheffield and start watching the club closest to where I now live - Forest Green Rovers.

 

[Jon Bon]

Ahhh, you'd get used to it ...... eventually. I think it could be a good idea. It's possibly the only chance we'll get of following a decent premiership side playing fairly regularly in Europe. Or perhaps it won't...? Who knows unless we try it?

Maybe the ball is already rolling in that direction? Maybe someone, somewhere is already pulling the strings to make this happen? You know me, I have no time for wild conspiracy theories - only conspiracy facts.

 

[oldblade]

Ahhh, you'd get used to it ...... eventually.

No I wouldn't.

 

[JohnDenver]

I wonder how many opinions would soften if we found ourselves in administration.

It's a game people. Nobody is asking you to become ginger French Muslims.

That's a nonsense scenario - you'd need both clubs on the brink or else the other club would happily stand by and become Sheffield's one team by default. If we went under we'd re-form and start again, not reach out to Wednesday offering them nothing but unrepayable debt. Check out Chester City for a small scale example.

SUFC isn't just about a game and you know it. It's part of the fabric of Sheffield society. You cannot create such things artificially.

 

[Yossarian]

You seem to be forgetting that it was created artificially in the first place.

 

[JohnDenver]

You seem to be forgetting that it was created artificially in the first place.

Please.... Every club starts somewhere but it takes decades to become embedded as deeply as United and Wednesday. If you tear those two organisations out and expect to implant a replacement, you destroy far more than you create. Yes, it may conceivably come to matter to people in 50 years time, but most of us would reject it like the parasite it is.

I think I'd sooner support Wednesday than 'Sheffield City' at the Don Valley Bowl. It might be the logical extrapolation of where football is headed, but that's the problem - football is going the wrong fookin' way.