Is Wilder Really Going To See This Out?

[Houston_Blade]

He's said a lot of things. We all have. That's life. Anyways, are you sure that Berge, Ramsdale and Brewster were signed "with half an eye on the Championship", 'cause I haven't read that anywhere, nor have I got that sense. McBurnie, yes, but the others - definitely not. Berge wasn't bought to play Championship football. Neither were Ramsdale or Brewster. Brewster needed to have some more experience in the Championship, anyway, so that's okay (but the £23k we paid for him hardly isn't.) Ramsdale was supposed to be a prem quality GK. Not comparing him to Henderson, but currently he isn't. It's hard for me to see Berge playing in the Championship, taking into the account his international career and all. Chill out and accept the fact that CW wasted some serious money.

Anyone we sign is signed with half an eye on the championship. We aren’t a shoe in to stay up and never will be so it’s implicit in any signing we make. Berge probably has a release clause and will be off so he’s exempt.

 

[Nine Inch Nalis]

This next few months are going to be toxic as fuck, that much is clear.

Those who are willing to turn on Wilder at the drop of a fart will give his prospective successor how long? Three weeks? A month? Maybe game by game.

"Well I liked him when we won 2-0 on Saturday but that 1-1 draw on Tuesday clearly proves that he's not cut out for a title challenge"

Buckle up for the shitfest of hysterics everybody....

 

[Robboblade1889]

I don’t make it sound easy at all. I’ve listed attributes there that 99% of the population barely have one of. That’s why it’s ELITE level sport. If we have no problem saying most of the squad aren’t Premier League class, why do you pout so much when those of us say maybe the manager isn’t either?

So again I will ask you what constitutes a premier league class manager? You do realise to be a premier league class manager you have to have much more than just those things you listed don’t you? Do you believe another manager would have kept this team up? Do you believe another manager would have even got us into the premier league in the first place? Do you think another manager would would have spent 100m and got us being more successful before you answer this one though you have to take into account the current squad and how much more other teams have spent over the last 5 years or so.

So come on who is this elite manager who you think Sheffield United could or should be getting to be a success in the most difficult league in the world.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Wilder knows he’s ultimately failed in his dream of establishing the club in the Prem.
Instead of buying players with Premier league experience, forthe here and now he went for youth and we’ve been caught with our trousers round our collective ankles.
But looking around I can’t see anyone who even comes close to being able to lead us out of the Championship again.

 

[Robboblade1889]

We were better equipped last season. After his best window ever we have been embarrassing yet he never blames himself, not once.

No we weren’t we had a lot of things go in our favour last season. We had little to no injuries the fans were a massive influence and I think a lot of teams were in transition. Added to the fact the players played at full tilt most weeks and none seemed to have a loss of form.

 

[Mendi]

Sheffield United remain bottom, 11 points from safety

 

[Bruce Wayne]

No we weren’t we had a lot of things go in our favour last season. We had little to no injuries the fans were a massive influence and I think a lot of teams were in transition. Added to the fact the players played at full tilt most weeks and none seemed to have a loss of form.

Why aren't they playing full tilt this season? No fans? If the fans are the driving factor for the players last season winning games and recieving big bonuses I think we should all get a cut

 

[Nine Inch Nalis]

Sheffield United remain bottom, 11 points from safety

Cheers Geoff.

 

[Robboblade1889]

Wilder knows he’s ultimately failed in his dream of establishing the club in the Prem.
Instead of buying players with Premier league experience, forthe here and now he went for youth and we’ve been caught with our trousers round our collective ankles.
But looking around I can’t see anyone who even comes close to being able to lead us out of the Championship again.

Let me ask you this how do we afford these premier league established players? Forget about the transfer fees we couldn’t afford their wages simple as that. Jesus wept we were bringing in free transfers a couple of years ago now people think we should be signing premier league established players.

You when absolutely no facts to back up your argument nobody will be good enough to get us out of the championship. That team walks the championship I’m nu opinion. All the players there have played in the championship and have done well. You may want to watch a couple of championship games it may suppose you how poor it is. The gap between the championship and the PL has never been bigger.

 

[ShropsBlade]

Wilders main fault is being too good and massively over achieving with this group of players. At the moment they are playing like what they are, a bunch Championship and League One journeymen and Bosmans.

People forget we were talking about Europe 8 months ago. Who the hell do they think got then there.

Hopefully Wilder stays and the idiot 'knee jerk reactionary' brigade keep their gobs shut.This nar

Kind of agree with this .Apart from the team full of league 1 journeymen narrative.Bet a lot of league 1 and championship teams Wouldn’t turn there nose up at two 20 million £ plus strikers and sander berge.

 

[Robboblade1889]

Why aren't they playing full tilt this season? No fans? If the fans are the driving factor for the players last season winning games and recieving big bonuses I think we should all get a cut

What about all the other things I mentioned should we just forget about those?

 

[A Storm of Blades]

Let me ask you this how do we afford these premier league established players? Forget about the transfer fees we couldn’t afford their wages simple as that. Jesus wept we were bringing in free transfers a couple of years ago now people think we should be signing premier league established players.

You when absolutely no facts to back up your argument nobody will be good enough to get us out of the championship. That team walks the championship I’m nu opinion. All the players there have played in the championship and have done well. You may want to watch a couple of championship games it may suppose you how poor it is. The gap between the championship and the PL has never been bigger.

Jesus wept man. You might actually get traction with some of your arguments if every post you make wasn’t drenched in a condescending tone and expressed with a desperate exasperation, that you alone know the truth which you must inflict on all of us.

 

[Robboblade1889]

Jesus wept man. You might actually get traction with some of your arguments if every post you make wasn’t drenched in a condescending tone and expressed with a desperate exasperation, that you alone know the truth which you must inflict on all of us.

Oh the irony.

That’s the thing opinions are like arse holes we all have one and we all think we are correct.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

Oh the irony.

You don’t understand the definition of irony.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

What about all the other things I mentioned should we just forget about those?

What like, you mean the players we are missing from last year? Like Hendo going back to MU and Wilder pissing away £18m on keeper that isn't good enough? Or maybe that he said he'd had his best window ever yet never signed a midfielder that we was crying out for? Or maybe not replacing JOC when he found out he was crocked?

Sorry, I love Wilder for what he's done since he came in but he's mega fucked up from the end of last season. He should at least take some accountability for that rather just say how hard the prem is and have you seen their quality etc. He's spent £100m+ ffs.

 

[cc1]

Quite a tirade, but I never said any of the things you mentioned, last season. I’ve always hated the flat 3, and argued that ditching the 10 would prove to be a mistake. Last year was a success built on fine margins, and a tight defence, but the colossal mistakes made in the last 12 months, as well as some of the football served up has me at breaking point.

The progressive, snarling, go for the throat Wilder has long since gone. We all wish he hadn’t but he has. We can talk about the players’ ability at this level, but there’s no denying Wilder has lost his bottle against sides we used to be willing to poke in the eye. He had his loyalty, 89 football league managers wouldn’t have made it passed November.

So, you accepted the brilliant season through, effectively, gritted teeth? On the belief you didn't like the system and believed, one day, it would get its comeuppance?
Despite it clearly being intelligently written...I, Sir, am calling bullshit.

 

[Robboblade1889]

You don’t understand the definition of irony.

I have given arguments to your comments and you don’t seem to like them. I have asked questions to various posters and they don’t seem to be able to answer them. You started by saying he is not shown anything in the last 18 months you got pulled up on it quite rightly so because the FACTS prove otherwise. Ah but what about this season you scream. Ye you have a very very valid argument this season has been awful. However like I have said I believe there are a lot of contributing factors why we are were we are. These are seemingly ignored for lazy cliches like “he’s not the same man”.

 

[Pedro Verde]

He should at least take some accountability

How do you know he isnt taking any accountability ?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

How do you know he isnt taking any accountability ?

Because I listen to him.

 

[Robboblade1889]

What like, you mean the players we are missing from last year? Like Hendo going back to MU and Wilder pissing away £18m on keeper that isn't good enough? Or maybe that he said he'd had his best window ever yet never signed a midfielder that we was crying out for? Or maybe not replacing JOC when he found out he was crocked?

Sorry, I love Wilder for what he's done since he came in but he's mega fucked up from the end of last season. He should at least take some accountability for that rather just say how hard the prem is and have you seen their quality etc. He's spent £100m+ ffs.

He has admitted in a few interviews it isn’t good enough himself included. Do you believe ramsdale cost us 18m. He signed an up and coming goal keeper who won player of the year at his club. It’s not working out shock horror manager signs a player that’s not working out. Problem we have is that if we sign a player that doesn’t work out we can’t just say ok we sign someone else. He is a brilliant manager not a magician. He isn’t the first manager to sign a player that hasn’t worked out in fact if that was the case he would be the only manager.

As for the other points you and I have no idea what players he wanted. He quite openly said he needed to replace JOC is it his fault he couldn’t? We don’t know that.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

So, you accepted the brilliant season through, effectively, gritted teeth? On the belief you didn't like the system and believed, one day, it would get its comeuppance?
Despite it clearly being intelligently written...I, Sir, am calling bullshit.

Not at all. I thoroughly enjoyed the season, but the post-lockdown warning signs were there. It’s perfectly reasonable to enjoy the season whilst simultaneously recognising that the style of our football had dropped off, we had some developing cracks and shortcomings that needed to be addressed. I felt last year, we were too conservative at times, and should have deployed more attacking line-ups against sides there for the taking. That concerned me, because if we weren’t willing to be more attacking when in fine fettle, then we’d likely become more defensive if our formed dipped. I won’t deny, Premier League or not, I much preferred the system and style of football when it was attack-minded with a 10 and overlapping CBs.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

He has admitted in a few interviews it isn’t good enough himself included. Do you believe ramsdale cost us 18m. He signed an up and coming goal keeper who won player of the year at his club. It’s not working out shock horror manager signs a player that’s not working out. Problem we have is that if we sign a player that doesn’t work out we can’t just say ok we sign someone else. He is a brilliant manager not a magician. He isn’t the first manager to sign a player that hasn’t worked out in fact if that was the case he would be the only manager.

As for the other points you and I have no idea what players he wanted. He quite openly said he needed to replace JOC is it his fault he couldn’t? We don’t know that.

He had a budget. His responsibility. He failed.

 

[Pedro Verde]

Because I listen to him.

Are you privvy to the conversations he has with the Prince and the CEO at the club ?
What he says in the press may not be the same converstaions he has with the clubs owner

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Are you privvy to the conversations he has with the Prince and the CEO at the club
What he says in the press may not be the same converstaions he has with the clubs owner

Well he must be damn good because if I'd have given him that amount of money for this abortion he'd be gone.

 

[Pedro Verde]

Well he must be damn good because if I'd have given him that amount of money for this abortion he'd be gone.

And replaced him with who ?
Thank fuck youre not in charge

 

[Robboblade1889]

He had a budget. His responsibility. He failed.

So who comes in then Wayne let’s cut to the chase your flag is planted. Don’t come with a lazy come back like “well there is no point in changing now”. You want him gone who comes in and get us challenging next season? You are in charge who do you appoint who works on a budget plays good football is perfect at interviews gets us promoted and has us challenging in the premier league?

 

[Robboblade1889]

Well he must be damn good because if I'd have given him that amount of money for this abortion he'd be gone.

Thank the lord you haven’t given him the money then.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

So who comes in then Wayne let’s cut to the chase your flag is planted. Don’t come with a lazy come back like “well there is no point in changing now”. You want him gone who comes in and get us challenging next season? You are in charge who do you appoint who works on a budget plays good football is perfect at interviews gets us promoted and has us challenging in the premier league?

Eddie Howe.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

And replaced him with who ?
Thank fuck youre not in charge

Eddie Howe.

 

[Bartleby]

I'm of the opinion that no matter how many times we get tonked on the way to our inevitable relegation, there's nobody I'd rather have at the helm in the Championship next season.

The ownership seem to think so too, but what are the chances that he'll stay? He has a remarkable record of never having been relegated and his first one is about to come with the club he loves.
I'm not sure he'll have the will or the resources to comprehensively restructure a now redundant squad. Maybe the environment is so toxic and there are issues that we aren't privy to which means he can go no further?

I don't give a fuck about relegation at this point, but facing next season without him makes me very concerned, all I can see in his wake is a string of inferior managers dragging us progressively further into obscurity, much like the period between 2007-2011.

I hope I'm wrong, I hope I'm very wrong.

I focus on the pain, the only thing that's real.