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Apart from Egan and Bash every other player has been dropped this season (dropping Baldock was a joke in any case). Nobody whines about the impact on their confidence.

I sympathise with him to a degree but he's gonna earn more in a year than some of us on here will earn in a lifetime. I'm afraid scrutiny comes with the territory. If he can't do his job properly it's unreasonable to expect no scrutiny with the inevitable criticism that brings.
 



The one obvious negative of today’s win at Bristol Rovers. Clumsy, lacks confidence and poor kicking. Surely it’s time to give Verrips a chance. Ramsdale makes our defence nervous even against lower league opposition
Why would Verrips be any better and is probably worse
 
Apart from Egan and Bash every other player has been dropped this season (dropping Baldock was a joke in any case). Nobody whines about the impact on their confidence.

I sympathise with him to a degree but he's gonna earn more in a year than some of us on here will earn in a lifetime. I'm afraid scrutiny comes with the territory. If he can't do his job properly it's unreasonable to expect no scrutiny with the inevitable criticism that brings.
You don’t accept that he is injured ?
 
Why would Verrips be any better and is probably worse

We may never know if he’s not given the chance. As others have said, not at fault for BR’s goals but isn’t at the standard expected for PL keeper. Not saying he’s hopeless and needs getting rid of, just needs a rest. You often get more from a player when he’s got something to gain rather than something to lose. If it was me and I lost my place in the team I’d find another 10%.
 
You don’t accept that he is injured ?
Sorry if not clear, I'm taking about Ramsdale. Verrips hasn't played so he can't be dropped. My point is, anyone else who isn't playing well gets dropped apart from Rammy and secondly, some say don't drop him cos of the impact on his confidence but that could be applied to anyone being dropped.
 
Ramsdale is a worry for me. The OP is right he worries the defence 100%. I do believe he’ll get better with confidence and fans behind him though. He’s a decent shot stopper and good with his feet, needs to sort his distribution out. The thing is he’s our keeper not on loan so let’s back him.
He worries the defence?? On the basis of today’s match as a start, they should be worrying about themselves rather than than the keeper.
 
Just realised, the injury reference was about Baldock. I thought he was dropped last week. If he is injured (and was last week) I stand corrected.
 
Ramsdale is 6ft 2in, so not "too short" like some on here believe. He is also 22 years of
age, very young for a goalie.
Depending on which source you choose the average height of a PL keeper is between 6ft 3in and 6ft 5in, so at 6ft 2in he's pretty short for a PL keeper.

I'm sure he'll get better, I'm just interested in where the numerous views that he'll become a great keeper come from.
 
He worries the defence?? On the basis of today’s match as a start, they should be worrying about themselves rather than than the keeper.
I’m trying to think of reasons how 2/3rds of a defence that kept so many clean sheets looks so vulnerable now. LCB is a problem for sure but I’m not sure it’s completely to blame
 
Goalkeepers need competition. They need to know that there’s someone knocking on the door.

Tracey and Kelly were brilliant but I’d bet they’d have been less impressive if they hadn’t been with us at the same time. The competition was fierce then and they knew if they played badly or got sent off, they might be on the bench a while.

I don’t disagree with your general point but, for what it’s worth, I think that Simon Tracey was at his very best in the three seasons before Alan Kelly joined.
 
I’m trying to think of reasons how 2/3rds of a defence that kept so many clean sheets looks so vulnerable now. LCB is a problem for sure but I’m not sure it’s completely to blame
It isn’t completely to blame but it is a large factor. As I see it we’re weak at left centreback generally but especially in the air O’Connell was incredibly dominant in that regard. It’s hurt Egan as he has to be top notch every game as the LCB isn’t going to cover any of his mistakes and he’s often having to bail out whoever is playing there. We’re also shite in midfield we lack athleticism to press and break up opposition moves before they progress up the pitch so we aren’t shielding the defence well. We’re shocking in possession giving away sloppy balls in midfield allowing opponents to start attacks high up the pitch further exposing the defence. On top of that Ramsdale doesn’t make as many worldwide saves as hendo and makes the occasional mistake.
 
Me too, and I’m not concentrating on the obvious scapegoat.
I think he’ll become a very good goalkeeper but in my honest opinion he’s a few seasons off that and we’ve signed him earlier than we’d of probably like to. Hopefully this season was just a tough season that most players can put behind them and all come out the other end better players.
 



I’m trying to think of reasons how 2/3rds of a defence that kept so many clean sheets looks so vulnerable now. LCB is a problem for sure but I’m not sure it’s completely to blame
I agree. Not all the free headers are on the left of our defence
 
He will drop a cross every game.. Did again today.. He also sometimes seems to be miles away from the ball when it goes in like their first today... I'm no goalkeeping coach but it just seemed like his starting position was wrong
Your absolutely correct DB. Flapper Ramsdale is guaranteed to have at least one calamity every game - sometimes he gets away with it sometimes he doesn’t. Rammel Ramsdale does not know how to command his box. When he does decide to come it’s usually a car crash. He can save the odd shot granted but your bang on his positional sense is non existent - he is always too far off his line. I have sat back and tried, tried & tried to exercise some patience praying the fella is going to come good. The business in the first place was tough enough to take - selling him for £1m and then re-signing him for £18m but i laid my faith in that CW knew what he was doing now I think they made a mistake. There maybe a keeper in there but I haven’t, apart from the odd couple couple of decent saves seen evidence of this yet. I am sorry to say this but i do not believe that Sheffield United will progress with AR between the sticks in his current form. He was instrumental in Bournemouth’s relegation (not sure of the stats but I can pretty much guess them) just like he will be instrumental in ours. We need to do one of two things. We can cut our losses and sell for a vastly reduced price or we bring somebody else in as number 1 and keep him for development. As it stands AR is not PL quality at the moment and that situation is not going to change anytime soon. However there could be a get out for him. If we are relegated and it looks highly likely that we will be then this could be his lifeline. He will have a complete season (hopefully we go straight back up) to develop further and rebuild his confidence then hopefully we will have him as our number 1 for 2022/2023 season. I really hope this happens for him and for us but for now it is patently obvious he just isn’t good enough.
 
Your absolutely correct DB. Flapper Ramsdale is guaranteed to have at least one calamity every game - sometimes he gets away with it sometimes he doesn’t. Rammel Ramsdale does not know how to command his box. When he does decide to come it’s usually a car crash. He can save the odd shot granted but your bang on his positional sense is non existent - he is always too far off his line. I have sat back and tried, tried & tried to exercise some patience praying the fella is going to come good. The business in the first place was tough enough to take - selling him for £1m and then re-signing him for £18m but i laid my faith in that CW knew what he was doing now I think they made a mistake. There maybe a keeper in there but I haven’t, apart from the odd couple couple of decent saves seen evidence of this yet. I am sorry to say this but i do not believe that Sheffield United will progress with AR between the sticks in his current form. He was instrumental in Bournemouth’s relegation (not sure of the stats but I can pretty much guess them) just like he will be instrumental in ours. We need to do one of two things. We can cut our losses and sell for a vastly reduced price or we bring somebody else in as number 1 and keep him for development. As it stands AR is not PL quality at the moment and that situation is not going to change anytime soon. However there could be a get out for him. If we are relegated and it looks highly likely that we will be then this could be his lifeline. He will have a complete season (hopefully we go straight back up) to develop further and rebuild his confidence then hopefully we will have him as our number 1 for 2022/2023 season. I really hope this happens for him and for us but for now it is patently obvious he just isn’t good enough.
This is a good post but I don’t think he’s even champ quality at the moment, the guy needs springs in his boots, instead of lead..
 
Neither goal was Ramsdale's fault & yet he did get close to the first one.

As with so many goals we concede, he often gets a finger tip to it and you wonder - should a Premier League keeper not occasionally get to one of those?
It just seems like - if it goes towards the corner, it's a guaranteed goal & don't ever expect any kind of bail out from Ramsdale.

Remember when we first came up into the Championship & seemed to forever be conceding "screamers" from outside the box? It immediately stopped happening when we brought in Henderson. A keeper that anticipated shots, had his feet in the right position and made those saves look routine.

With Ramsdale - he makes everything looks desperate. They're rarely "terrible goals to concede" on the face of it, but you have to feel that your £18m goalkeeper should probably be making some tricky saves occasionally, or coming through a sea of bodies and plucking one out of the air. You get none of that with him.


I like the kid, but the more I watch of him the less convinced I am & the more I think we had our pants pulled down in the Summer. I thought he was a lot better than he's shown to us so far.

The worry for me is not the mistakes, as they can be ironed out. It's the lack of anticipation, athleticism & fast reflexes.
Premier League goalies need to have at least 2 (& possibly all 3) to make it at the top level as the shots are taken earlier & have more power & accuracy. You don't get that extra second to set yourself whilst a striker tees himself up.

He's been disappointing for me.
 
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Verrips would probably have played in the cup if it wasn't for Ramsdale needing a confidence-boosting clean sheet. As soon as that was gone, we should have stuck Verrips on at half time as we were allowed 5 subs anyway, see what he can do.
So subbing the goalie at half time helps his confidence!!! How!! You idiot
 
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Your absolutely correct DB. Flapper Ramsdale is guaranteed to have at least one calamity every game - sometimes he gets away with it sometimes he doesn’t. Rammel Ramsdale does not know how to command his box. When he does decide to come it’s usually a car crash. He can save the odd shot granted but your bang on his positional sense is non existent - he is always too far off his line. I have sat back and tried, tried & tried to exercise some patience praying the fella is going to come good. The business in the first place was tough enough to take - selling him for £1m and then re-signing him for £18m but i laid my faith in that CW knew what he was doing now I think they made a mistake. There maybe a keeper in there but I haven’t, apart from the odd couple couple of decent saves seen evidence of this yet. I am sorry to say this but i do not believe that Sheffield United will progress with AR between the sticks in his current form. He was instrumental in Bournemouth’s relegation (not sure of the stats but I can pretty much guess them) just like he will be instrumental in ours. We need to do one of two things. We can cut our losses and sell for a vastly reduced price or we bring somebody else in as number 1 and keep him for development. As it stands AR is not PL quality at the moment and that situation is not going to change anytime soon. However there could be a get out for him. If we are relegated and it looks highly likely that we will be then this could be his lifeline. He will have a complete season (hopefully we go straight back up) to develop further and rebuild his confidence then hopefully we will have him as our number 1 for 2022/2023 season. I really hope this happens for him and for us but for now it is patently obvious he just isn’t good enough.
How can you say Ramsdale was instrumental in Bournemouth's relegation! Then say you havnt got the stats to back it up!! You thick fking idiot!! Back up what you post or fuck off!!
 
I think there’s going to be a wholesale clear out of the goalkeepers at Bramall Lane.

We currently have seven full time pros ? How we’ve ended up in that position is betond me?
 
I think Verrips should have at least an opportunity over the next few weeks/months. Gave Ramsdale a break for a time, I still see that he has to be the future, not least due to the amount paid, but he is still a young boy with plenty of time to develop. Personally for the outlay I'd have bought the bloke from Turkey but we didn't so we need to back Rammers all the way. Which GK can you say has been the finished article at 22? We were spoilt with Henderson but he wasn't the finished article either and was prone to mistakes.
 
When we signed Verrips, on Roygbiv view from, some of their fans were tipping him to get the number 1 spot off Henderson. So I’m not really sure what’s happened for him not to get a run out at some point.
 



I think there’s going to be a wholesale clear out of the goalkeepers at Bramall Lane.

We currently have seven full time pros ? How we’ve ended up in that position is betond me?

Who are the magnificent 7 then currently on our books?

I'd hop that next season once we are back in the Championship, we have Ramsdale, and either Verrips or a new elder more experienced keeper instead, fighting for that number 1 jersey.
 

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