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So everyone has assumed we are down and it seems a fairly safe bet. We now have new targets don’t we? Getting a win...a clean sheet and more than that not setting records for fewest points ever!
Maybe it matters little if we do down with 2 points or 20 points but for our clubs and own dignity I’d rather not go into the record books as the worst Premier League team ever, the worst top flight side ever or even the worst side in any Football League division ever. There might have been worse sides in terms of standard but the points currently do not lie.
All the above records are a real possibility.
I had a quick flick through an old book my son had on Football League tables 1988 – 2008. I then scanned the last 12 years that were not included in the book.
Might have missed a few out and the early leagues are maybe not worth comparing due to much fewer games and of course It was not until 1981 was it when it was made 3 points for a win?
So watch out Loughborough, Doncaster, Darwen and Northwich Victoria! We are coming for you. They all got kess than 10 points! Our current projection is 5 points so a long way to go yet!
Listed full records below of the worst teams in history.. not included war time tables....
In terms of the Premier League: Less than 20 pts
2007/08 Derby County Points 11. Games played: 38. Wins: 1
2005/06 Sunderland Points 15. Games played: 38. Wins: 3
2018/19 Huddersfield Points 16. Games played: 38. Wins: 3
2015/16 Aston Villa Points 17. Games played: 38. Wins: 3
2002/03 Sunderland Points 19. Games played: 38. Wins: 4
Top Division (Prem and Division 1 before Prem) Less than 20 pts...
*Some of these played far less games of course and most were 2 points for a win...so maybe not a fair comparison but we may struggle to catch some even with more games and 3 points for a win!
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1889/90 Stoke Points 10. Games played: 22. Wins: 3
2007/08 Derby County Points 11. Games played: 38. Wins: 1
1891/92 Darwen Points 11. Games played: 26. Wins: 4
1890/91 West Brom Points 12. Games played: 20. Wins: 5
1888/89 Stoke Points 12. Games played: 22. Wins: 4
1893/84 Newton Heath Points 14. Games played: 30. Wins: 6
2005/06 Sunderland Points 15. Games played: 38. Wins: 3
2018/19 Huddersfield Points 16. Games played: 38. Wins: 3
2015/16 Aston Villa Points 17. Games played: 38. Wins: 3
1984/85 Stoke City Points 17. Games played: 42. Wins 3
1946/47 Leeds United Points 18. Games played: 42. Wins: 6
1968/69 Queens Park Rangers Points 18. Games played: 42. Wins: 4
1904/05 Notts County Points 18. Games played: 34. Wins: 5
1912/13 Woolwich Arsenal Points 18. Games played: 38. Wins: 3
1892/93 Newton Heath Points 18. Games played: 30. Wins: 6
2002/03 Sunderland Points 19. Games played: 38. Wins: 4
1980/81 Crystal Palace Points 19. Games played: 42. Wins: 6
1895/96 West Brom Points 19. Games played: 30. Wins: 6
1896/97 Burnley Points 19. Games played: 30. Wins: 6
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All leagues: (less pts for a win/fewer games)
1899/00 D2 Loughborough Points 8. Games played: 34. Wins: 1
1904/05 D2 Doncaster Rovers Points 8. Games played: 34. Wins: 3
1898/99 D2 Darwen Points 9. Games played: 34. Wins: 2
1893/94 D2 Northwich Victoria Points 9. Games played: 23. Wins: 3
1889/90 PL/D1 Stoke Points 10. Games played: 22. Wins: 3
1894/95 D2 Crewe Points 10. Games played: 30. Wins: 3
2007/08 PL/D1 Derby County Points 11. Games played: 38. Wins: 1
1891/92 PL/D1 Darwen Points 11. Games played: 26. Wins: 4
1931/32 D3 N Rochdale Points 11. Games played: 40. Wins: 4
1890/91 PL/D1 West Brom Points 12. Games played: 20. Wins: 5
1888/89 PL/D1 Stoke Points 12. Games played: 22. Wins: 4
1896/97 D2 Lincoln Points 12. Games played: 30. Wins: 5
1895/96 D2 Crewe Points 13. Games played: 30. Wins: 5
1892/93 D2 Walsall Town Swifts Points 13. Games played: 22. Wins: 5
2019/20 New D1 (Tier 3) Bolton Points 14 (deducted 12 pts & season curtailed) Games played: 34. Wins: 5
1893/84 PL/D1 Newton Heath Points 14. Games played: 30. Wins: 6
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Sure I might have got a few things wrong or missed a few out so feel free to add to above...1..2..3...silentblade sure will correct the errors! Cleverer people may do the averages for the teams for 2 pts v 3pts etc.
Might be worth referring back to when...gulf we hit the 8.9,10,11 point target.
Basically 12 and we've avoided any major records!
Maybe it matters little if we do down with 2 points or 20 points but for our clubs and own dignity I’d rather not go into the record books as the worst Premier League team ever, the worst top flight side ever or even the worst side in any Football League division ever. There might have been worse sides in terms of standard but the points currently do not lie.
All the above records are a real possibility.
I had a quick flick through an old book my son had on Football League tables 1988 – 2008. I then scanned the last 12 years that were not included in the book.
Might have missed a few out and the early leagues are maybe not worth comparing due to much fewer games and of course It was not until 1981 was it when it was made 3 points for a win?
So watch out Loughborough, Doncaster, Darwen and Northwich Victoria! We are coming for you. They all got kess than 10 points! Our current projection is 5 points so a long way to go yet!
Listed full records below of the worst teams in history.. not included war time tables....
In terms of the Premier League: Less than 20 pts
2007/08 Derby County Points 11. Games played: 38. Wins: 1
2005/06 Sunderland Points 15. Games played: 38. Wins: 3
2018/19 Huddersfield Points 16. Games played: 38. Wins: 3
2015/16 Aston Villa Points 17. Games played: 38. Wins: 3
2002/03 Sunderland Points 19. Games played: 38. Wins: 4
Top Division (Prem and Division 1 before Prem) Less than 20 pts...
*Some of these played far less games of course and most were 2 points for a win...so maybe not a fair comparison but we may struggle to catch some even with more games and 3 points for a win!
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1889/90 Stoke Points 10. Games played: 22. Wins: 3
2007/08 Derby County Points 11. Games played: 38. Wins: 1
1891/92 Darwen Points 11. Games played: 26. Wins: 4
1890/91 West Brom Points 12. Games played: 20. Wins: 5
1888/89 Stoke Points 12. Games played: 22. Wins: 4
1893/84 Newton Heath Points 14. Games played: 30. Wins: 6
2005/06 Sunderland Points 15. Games played: 38. Wins: 3
2018/19 Huddersfield Points 16. Games played: 38. Wins: 3
2015/16 Aston Villa Points 17. Games played: 38. Wins: 3
1984/85 Stoke City Points 17. Games played: 42. Wins 3
1946/47 Leeds United Points 18. Games played: 42. Wins: 6
1968/69 Queens Park Rangers Points 18. Games played: 42. Wins: 4
1904/05 Notts County Points 18. Games played: 34. Wins: 5
1912/13 Woolwich Arsenal Points 18. Games played: 38. Wins: 3
1892/93 Newton Heath Points 18. Games played: 30. Wins: 6
2002/03 Sunderland Points 19. Games played: 38. Wins: 4
1980/81 Crystal Palace Points 19. Games played: 42. Wins: 6
1895/96 West Brom Points 19. Games played: 30. Wins: 6
1896/97 Burnley Points 19. Games played: 30. Wins: 6
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All leagues: (less pts for a win/fewer games)
1899/00 D2 Loughborough Points 8. Games played: 34. Wins: 1
1904/05 D2 Doncaster Rovers Points 8. Games played: 34. Wins: 3
1898/99 D2 Darwen Points 9. Games played: 34. Wins: 2
1893/94 D2 Northwich Victoria Points 9. Games played: 23. Wins: 3
1889/90 PL/D1 Stoke Points 10. Games played: 22. Wins: 3
1894/95 D2 Crewe Points 10. Games played: 30. Wins: 3
2007/08 PL/D1 Derby County Points 11. Games played: 38. Wins: 1
1891/92 PL/D1 Darwen Points 11. Games played: 26. Wins: 4
1931/32 D3 N Rochdale Points 11. Games played: 40. Wins: 4
1890/91 PL/D1 West Brom Points 12. Games played: 20. Wins: 5
1888/89 PL/D1 Stoke Points 12. Games played: 22. Wins: 4
1896/97 D2 Lincoln Points 12. Games played: 30. Wins: 5
1895/96 D2 Crewe Points 13. Games played: 30. Wins: 5
1892/93 D2 Walsall Town Swifts Points 13. Games played: 22. Wins: 5
2019/20 New D1 (Tier 3) Bolton Points 14 (deducted 12 pts & season curtailed) Games played: 34. Wins: 5
1893/84 PL/D1 Newton Heath Points 14. Games played: 30. Wins: 6
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Sure I might have got a few things wrong or missed a few out so feel free to add to above...1..2..3...silentblade sure will correct the errors! Cleverer people may do the averages for the teams for 2 pts v 3pts etc.
Might be worth referring back to when...gulf we hit the 8.9,10,11 point target.
Basically 12 and we've avoided any major records!
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