Billy Sharp

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He isn't a right wing back, so they wouldn't all have fell to him, and he doesn't have the pace Burke does so the chances he had/created would've never even happened

Agree. It's a really dumbed down argument to say "if Billy plays he bags all of those."

If Billy plays we probably don't get up the pitch and create half those chances.
 
With the greatest respect to Billy who’s been a fantastic player/captain of the club if we’re relying on him at his age in the PL it’s pretty peak he is a good goal scorer but you need a bit more in this league in particular pace
 
Agree. It's a really dumbed down argument to say "if Billy plays he bags all of those."

If Billy plays we probably don't get up the pitch and create half those chances.
I think we can both agree that if Billy (and I'd be confident) we're in similar positions to the brewster/MCB misses, he definitely scores.
 
Get him picked for Leicester ffs , can’t be worse than McB . What the fuck have got to lose we’re down anyway so might as well give everybody a go , might come up with a combination that just might work !
 
No smoke without fire, or bullshit

If it's true there'll be a vacancy for an assistant groundsman as well as a striker. Well done 'Joe Glave' for naming your source and jeopardising his position you thoughtless dick.



nvm just seen more recent posts making it look like bullshit
 
Agree. It's a really dumbed down argument to say "if Billy plays he bags all of those."

If Billy plays we probably don't get up the pitch and create half those chances.
I know this has already been dissed but not harshly enough in my opinion.
You CM are talking utter utter bullshit in this scenario, there were players on the pitch v West Brom who would give Hammond a run for his money invisibility wise and once again I can only point you back to the Wolves game where Sharp was one of the most effective players on the pitch, he is always involved and is a captain which we don't see from anybody else. I don't know what he's done wrong, possibly taking the penalty v Fulham but this guy is Sheff United through and through and more importantly still very influential on the pitch.
 



I think we can both agree that if Billy (and I'd be confident) we're in similar positions to the brewster/MCB misses, he definitely scores.

That might be true (though it's debatable) but it completely misses the point I was making.
To engage you on your point, it's not as easy finishing chances at this level. Defenders are better, you have less time. You have to strike it earlier and more accurately to beat the keeper.
You have to find room for yourself in the box against better defenders. A good poacher in the Championship is not always going to be able to translate those skills to the PL.

Bollocks.

We had WBA pinned inside their own box for much of the second half.

Again, this was in large part due to the forwards that were on the pitch.

I know this has already been dissed but not harshly enough in my opinion.
You CM are talking utter utter bullshit in this scenario, there were players on the pitch v West Brom who would give Hammond a run for his money invisibility wise and once again I can only point you back to the Wolves game where Sharp was one of the most effective players on the pitch, he is always involved and is a captain which we don't see from anybody else. I don't know what he's done wrong, possibly taking the penalty v Fulham but this guy is Sheff United through and through and more importantly still very influential on the pitch.

I'm not debating that some of our players are poor. Or that Billy Sharp is Sheff Utd through and through. But I think it's too simplified of an argument to suggest you just swap him in for one of the others and all of the sudden we're in the goals. Football doesn't work like that.

Last season when McGoldrick kept missing chances, people kept suggesting swapping him out for Sharp, completely missing that the reason those chances fell to McGoldrick were that he roams around the field and is very difficult to pick up when he drifts into dangerous areas.
When we hooked him out of the side, we struggled to get up the pitch. We were nowhere near the same attacking threat and those chances that fell to him instead fell to noone.

Sharp doesn't have the pace to go in behind, or the physicality to mix it with his back to goal.

I love him to bits, but he's not the answer. Not at this level.
 
That might be true (though it's debatable) but it completely misses the point I was making.
To engage you on your point, it's not as easy finishing chances at this level. Defenders are better, you have less time. You have to strike it earlier and more accurately to beat the keeper.
You have to find room for yourself in the box against better defenders. A good poacher in the Championship is not always going to be able to translate those skills to the PL.



Again, this was in large part due to the forwards that were on the pitch.



I'm not debating that some of our players are poor. Or that Billy Sharp is Sheff Utd through and through. But I think it's too simplified of an argument to suggest you just swap him in for one of the others and all of the sudden we're in the goals. Football doesn't work like that.

Last season when McGoldrick kept missing chances, people kept suggesting swapping him out for Sharp, completely missing that the reason those chances fell to McGoldrick were that he roams around the field and is difficult to pick up.
Sharp doesn't have the pace to go in behind, or the physicality to mix it with back to goal.

I love him to bits, but he's not the answer. Not at this level.
Come on mate. You're telling me it's harder to score from 3 yards out?
 
If you look closely, the ball bounced off his shin, not his foot. Difficult to direct the ball into the net in 0.1 secs
That's one chance. What about the other two? Granted not three yards out, one near the penalty area and the other literally 2 yards out.
 
I love Billy, but let's not pretend people on here weren't saying he was "not good enough" when he missed sitters on the last day against Southampton. Or after his performance the first game of this season against Wolves.
Understandable comments about him but due, I believe, to him being asked to play holding the ball up as a target man. That’s not his game. He thrives on balls being whipped in and Burke IMHO would be an ideal partner for him. He also wins a lot of free kicks. If we could find anyone capable of delivering a decent dead ball we’d capitalise on that as well.
 
If you look closely, the ball bounced off his shin, not his foot. Difficult to direct the ball into the net in 0.1 secs
Goal scorers hit the ball with the top of the foot. Not saying any of our players are crap but some of them are playing crap.
(As an aside there is some footage of Beckham hitting a beauty of a cross with his shin, yep watched it over and over just to make sure).
 
The Sharp situation is a bit of a weird one. If CW was never going to play him, surely giving him a new contract (he will be one of our highest earners) was not sensible from a wages/money point of view. CW had a mare of a window/pre-season.

But yes, Billy would have taken at least one of the chances missed lately.
 
The Sharp situation is a bit of a weird one. If CW was never going to play him, surely giving him a new contract (he will be one of our highest earners) was not sensible from a wages/money point of view. CW had a mare of a window/pre-season.

But yes, Billy would have taken at least one of the chances missed lately.
i think chris had one eye on the championship when he gave billy and goldie 2 year deals plus the 2 lads from derby all of which would be good enough in the championship its as though he thought this might happen this season
 
Another fucking armchair expert from 5000 miles away !!!

UTB
Hahaha from S14 actually. And the reason he hasn’t scored this season is because he does not get picked to start, and rarely comes on as sub.
As your knowledge and experience are therefore greater than Wilders, I’ll leave you to it. 😂
 
I love Billy, but let's not pretend people on here weren't saying he was "not good enough" when he missed sitters on the last day against Southampton. Or after his performance the first game of this season against Wolves.
He had one game where he missed the target before he was discarded,how many games has the present strike force have to play missing the target before they are dropped?Yes Billy is getting on a bit but we are in the shit and i can not think of anyone else at the club who can be relied upon to hit the back of the net apart from him.Not ideal I know but he is all we have to give the fans any hope of seeing a bloody goal.
 
Hahaha from S14 actually. And the reason he hasn’t scored this season is because he does not get picked to start, and rarely comes on as sub.
As your knowledge and experience are therefore greater than Wilders, I’ll leave you to it. 😂
And when was the last time you physically attended a game of ours ?

Rhetorical question for you to mull over.

But I will add that I believe it to be impossible to judge strikers when much of the work they do (or not do as the case may be) is never picked up by the TV camera. The absolutely vital off ball movement, only possible to see when your field of vision is focused there.

Food for thought !!

UTB
 
Are we into double figures yet for people who think Sharp should play?
 
Can anyone link to the messages alluded to which apparently incriminate Wilder and prove his dislike for Billy?

Not taking the piss, genuinely missed this if its true.
 



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