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[Silent Blade]

1934-5 Reserves.

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Jack Pickering played for England and played in the 1936 FA Cup final along with Charlie Wilkinson and Bert Williams.

Willis Vaughton was the oldest living ex-Blade player before Colin Collindridge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Vaughton

 

[XM657]

United certainly ran an A team around that time. They played in the old Yorkshire League.
I remember my dad once taking me to watch them on the Ball Inn, against Retford Town (who did play in YL despite being in Notts).
They played in green and United's goalie (Max Ashmore, I believe) had to wear a white jumper. It fascinated my very young mind and I kept asking my dad why the goalie had a white jumper on. I just didn't get it .

What a memory, I would imagine there are not many on here, if any, that have seen a match with a goalkeeper wearing white. Colours used to be green, red, blue, white and black. Probably all went out the door when they started turning out in these kind of jerseys. Though they do look good and couldn't resist one of Mel. The last one's rather snazzy, also.
Getting back to the A and B sides, in the 50's, there was a ground at Dore and one at Woodhouse which I believe United teams played on, maybe some one can throw some light on this. Memory says the Woodhouse one was completely enclosed by high fencing with rudimentary terracing and had been used since before the First War to hold finals of local cup competitions. My maternal grandad played in a "Kelley Cup Final" there in 1912. Kelley was a Councillor and the competition was used to raise funds for local hospitals. My first association with this ground was either end of season 1947 or 48 as my grandfather's youngest brother was a referee, reffing, a cup final there and my grandad went along taking me. Beautiful manicured pitch and the memory of going in the Brunswick Arms across the road as that was the changing rooms, in the roof space, for the teams and officials. I later played on there some10-11 years later, mid winter, inch or two of snow and the pitch had deteriorated with puddles all over covered in ice. Still changed in the pub if memory serves.
The other ground at Dore was surrounded by houses and was a good well kept ground when I played there V Dore probably back end of same season I played at the Brunswick Ground as memory tells me it was a sunny day.

 

[XM657]

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................and I always thought of it as, flat as a billiard table. Goes to show.

 

[XM657]

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Would that be the Mark Bright of the "Low's" persuasion.

 

[XM657]

Jack Pickering played for England and played in the 1936 FA Cup final along with Charlie Wilkinson and Bert Williams.

Willis Vaughton was the oldest living ex-Blade player before Colin Collindridge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Vaughton

Vaughton, finally played for New Brighton, where Harry Hitchen was playing until his arrival at the lane in the late 40's.

 

[LSF]

What a memory, I would imagine there are not many on here, if any, that have seen a match with a goalkeeper wearing white. Colours used to be green, red, blue, white and black. Probably all went out the door when they started turning out in these kind of jerseys. Though they do look good and couldn't resist one of Mel. The last one's rather snazzy, also.View attachment 98507View attachment 98508 View attachment 98509
Getting back to the A and B sides, in the 50's, there was a ground at Dore and one at Woodhouse which I believe United teams played on, maybe some one can throw some light on this. Memory says the Woodhouse one was completely enclosed by high fencing with rudimentary terracing and had been used since before the First War to hold finals of local cup competitions. My maternal grandad played in a "Kelley Cup Final" there in 1912. Kelley was a Councillor and the competition was used to raise funds for local hospitals. My first association with this ground was either end of season 1947 or 48 as my grandfather's youngest brother was a referee, reffing, a cup final there and my grandad went along taking me. Beautiful manicured pitch and the memory of going in the Brunswick Arms across the road as that was the changing rooms, in the roof space, for the teams and officials. I later played on there some10-11 years later, mid winter, inch or two of snow and the pitch had deteriorated with puddles all over covered in ice. Still changed in the pub if memory serves.
The other ground at Dore was surrounded by houses and was a good well kept ground when I played there V Dore probably back end of same season I played at the Brunswick Ground as memory tells me it was a sunny day.

Brilliant recollections there XM!
The Woodhouse ground was before my time but my father in law, who was a prominent local footballer used to mention this ground in his football tales he'd regale me with.
I certainly remember United playing at Dore (maybe Brunsmeers ground these days?).
When I had my (failed) brief flirtation trying to break into the pro game with United, they fielded 5 teams most Saturdays.
1st team, reserves in Central League, Juniors in Northern Intermediate, usually Saturday morning on Ball Inn, 4th team in Hatchard League and a 5th XI in the S&H Under 18 league, playing at Concord Park. The U18's were managed (in the loosest sense) by a bloke named Lol Swallow, whose main function was to get 11 players together as being the bottom of the pile, the teams above nicked players at last minute, ruthlessly!
The NIL team was generally full time apprentices and the odd 1st year Pro and occasional amateur.
The Hatchard League (a tough, first rung senior football league covering South Yorkshire) was made up of amateurs, triallists and the odd apprentice Pro, a real steep learning curve for young aspiring footballers.
The under 18's also used amateurs and triallists and was the start point for many wannabee pro's.
Football in the 50's,60's & 70's was phenomenal in its participation figures.
Every ability was catered for in the endless leagues that existed back then...
But that's another debate to be had maybe another day...

 

[bornablade]

Brilliant recollections there XM!
The Woodhouse ground was before my time but my father in law, who was a prominent local footballer used to mention this ground in his football tales he'd regale me with.
I certainly remember United playing at Dore (maybe Brunsmeers ground these days?).
When I had my (failed) brief flirtation trying to break into the pro game with United, they fielded 5 teams most Saturdays.
1st team, reserves in Central League, Juniors in Northern Intermediate, usually Saturday morning on Ball Inn, 4th team in Hatchard League and a 5th XI in the S&H Under 18 league, playing at Concord Park. The U18's were managed (in the loosest sense) by a bloke named Lol Swallow, whose main function was to get 11 players together as being the bottom of the pile, the teams above nicked players at last minute, ruthlessly!
The NIL team was generally full time apprentices and the odd 1st year Pro and occasional amateur.
The Hatchard League (a tough, first rung senior football league covering South Yorkshire) was made up of amateurs, triallists and the odd apprentice Pro, a real steep learning curve for young aspiring footballers.
The under 18's also used amateurs and triallists and was the start point for many wannabee pro's.
Football in the 50's,60's & 70's was phenomenal in its participation figures.
Every ability was catered for in the endless leagues that existed back then...
But that's another debate to be had maybe another day...

Going back to the 1960's we'd go to any game that was taking place at the Lane. First team, reserves, NIL.

No internet and no Radio Sheffield (pre 1967). Fixture lists in a previous programme, the Star and those posters on the walls outside the ground were our points of information.

 

[LSF]

Going back to the 1960's we'd go to any game that was taking place at the Lane. First team, reserves, NIL.

No internet and no Radio Sheffield (pre 1967). Fixture lists in a previous programme, the Star and those posters on the walls outside the ground were our points of information.

How did we manage in those days eh!
I never missed a game on the Ball Inn. Juniors always Saturday at 11, and living across road from the ground, I'd see people walking on to the entrance, a coach turning up with teams on, or, once they installed floodlights, my signal to climb over the wall for a night game.

 

[Silent Blade]

those posters on the walls outside the ground were our points of information.

Have tried googling without luck for photos of these posters. Every Sunday in the early 1970s my family would be in my dad's car on the way to see my mum's family in Shiregreen and driving past the billboards where Homebase is now would be information for me of who were to be our next opponents at the Lane

 

[Bert]

Have tried googling without luck for photos of these posters. Every Sunday in the early 1970s my family would be in my dad's car on the way to see my mum's family in Shiregreen and driving past the billboards where Homebase is now would be information for me of who were to be our next opponents at the Lane

It was the same for Bert, those posters were the only source of information regarding fixtures.
He's never seen a photo of one either.

 

[Silent Blade]

Silent, 2nd right is Jim Doherty, I didn't state his position in line up originally, sorry.
Second left is bugging me, should know him! Age is clouding memory these days
I'll keep trying...

Jim Doherty has replied to my FB thread letting me know that his surname doesnt have a "c". A Wendy fan posted saying that he often sees Mick Williams and Stuart Hutchinson at S6

 

[LSF]

Jim Doherty has replied to my FB thread letting me know that his surname doesnt have a "c". A Wendy fan posted saying that he often sees Mick Williams and Stuart Hutchinson at S6

Yep, the Irish spelling of it. He was a St John Fisher lad. Lives in New Zealand.
Those two have no taste then!

 

[XM657]

Have tried googling without luck for photos of these posters. Every Sunday in the early 1970s my family would be in my dad's car on the way to see my mum's family in Shiregreen and driving past the billboards where Homebase is now would be information for me of who were to be our next opponents at the Lane

There is a photo out of a poster at the corner of John St and Shoreham St., but wouldn't you know it, can't find it at the moment, will keep trying.

 

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Brilliant recollections there XM!
The Woodhouse ground was before my time but my father in law, who was a prominent local footballer used to mention this ground in his football tales he'd regale me with.
I certainly remember United playing at Dore (maybe Brunsmeers ground these days?).
When I had my (failed) brief flirtation trying to break into the pro game with United, they fielded 5 teams most Saturdays.
1st team, reserves in Central League, Juniors in Northern Intermediate, usually Saturday morning on Ball Inn, 4th team in Hatchard League and a 5th XI in the S&H Under 18 league, playing at Concord Park. The U18's were managed (in the loosest sense) by a bloke named Lol Swallow, whose main function was to get 11 players together as being the bottom of the pile, the teams above nicked players at last minute, ruthlessly!
The NIL team was generally full time apprentices and the odd 1st year Pro and occasional amateur.
The Hatchard League (a tough, first rung senior football league covering South Yorkshire) was made up of amateurs, triallists and the odd apprentice Pro, a real steep learning curve for young aspiring footballers.
The under 18's also used amateurs and triallists and was the start point for many wannabee pro's.
Football in the 50's,60's & 70's was phenomenal in its participation figures.
Every ability was catered for in the endless leagues that existed back then...
But that's another debate to be had maybe another day...

I know it’s dangerous to say anything good about Wednesday on here, but in my early years (1950s) I had no idea about Utd’s A-team, juniors, etc., because apart from listing appearances for the A-team, the programme gave no fixtures, league tables, etc below the Reserves. The Wednesday programme had plenty of info, including, I am delighted to add, a 6-1 home defeat to the University! Info, nostalgia in pics below:

 

[Silent Blade]

I know it’s dangerous to say anything good about Wednesday on here, but in my early years (1950s) I had no idea about Utd’s A-team, juniors, etc., because apart from listing appearances for the A-team, the programme gave no fixtures, league tables, etc below the Reserves. The Wednesday programme had plenty of info, including, I am delighted to add, a 6-1 home defeat to the University! Info, nostalgia in pics below:
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[Greenwich Blade]

Davy Computing apparently in 1973

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As my dad did a bit of work for Davy whilst he was at Firth Brown, he took this as his permission to park the car there for United home games Al through the 1970s, in that very car park.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Great stuff, thanks. I wasn’t old enough for an away local derby then. No idea whether my dad sneaked off for the afternoon. None of those rattles were a patch on mine!

 

[Greenwich Blade]

As my dad did a bit of work for Davy whilst he was at Firth Brown, he took this as his permission to park the car there for United home games Al through the 1970s, in that very car park.

*all (not Al)

 

[singaporeblade]

Ian Ramsey ?

Ramsay

 

[Paisley Blade]

Sad to hear that about Tom . I had a friend who was in his class at De la Salle along with Dennis Finnegan who also played for us .

In respect of the latter , I remember him telling me that at the age of 15 Dennis was built like a fully grown man and played for the First Xl which was normally made up of 17-18 year olds . He told me that he played centre forward and scored over 50 goals in one season and was virtually unstoppable .

My friend said he could never understand why when he joined us , someone had the bright idea of converting a player with such an astonishing goal scoring background into a centre half .

This friend was someone who knew a player when he saw one and expressed the view on more than one occasion that if Dennis had been developed in his natural role , he could have gone on to be as good or even better than Mick Jones .

Sadly , we’ll never know if he was right but the whole thing does sound extraordinary .

I worked alongside Dennis for a short time late 80's Joe , lovely man.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Tom Fenoughty, old school part timer who played at the highest level of English football, incredible by today’s standards. Famously played on Match of the Day, against Arsenal at Highbury and Kenneth Wostenholme mispronounced his name.
Unfortunately he’s not in the best of health, troubled by balance problems for a number of years, he now has to use a wheelchair.

I think Tommy's dad must have owned a shop of some sort as my dad used to visit on business. My dad said Tommy and his brothers were always playing football . I think Tommy was qualified as a chemist.

He didn't make a mark with us but he was part of a successful Chestefield side (1970) alongside John Archer in midfield.

Sorry he's not well.

Sad to hear that about Tom . I had a friend who was in his class at De la Salle along with Dennis Finnegan who also played for us .

In respect of the latter , I remember him telling me that at the age of 15 Dennis was built like a fully grown man and played for the First Xl which was normally made up of 17-18 year olds . He told me that he played centre forward and scored over 50 goals in one season and was virtually unstoppable .

My friend said he could never understand why when he joined us , someone had the bright idea of converting a player with such an astonishing goal scoring background into a centre half .

This friend was someone who knew a player when he saw one and expressed the view on more than one occasion that if Dennis had been developed in his natural role , he could have gone on to be as good or even better than Mick Jones .

Sadly , we’ll never know if he was right but the whole thing does sound extraordinary .

I worked alongside Dennis for a short time late 80's Joe , lovely man.

Wasn't Dennis Finnegan at one time the organist at St Marie's RC Cathedral Church at some point?

There were three Fenoughty brothers as far as I remember from my time at De La Salle,

Tom was the eldest I believe and there was Mick and I think the youngest was Nick, or it could be the other round - such a long time ago. They could definitely all play a bit!

Wasn't one of the others also on United's books at some point?

Talking of St Marie's I do remember one midnight mass, back in the late 60s, getting up to something, that was not at all holy, with a Notre Dame lass at the back of the assembled congregation.

 

[XM657]

Have tried googling without luck for photos of these posters. Every Sunday in the early 1970s my family would be in my dad's car on the way to see my mum's family in Shiregreen and driving past the billboards where Homebase is now would be information for me of who were to be our next opponents at the Lane

Sorry looks like Bramall Lane John St. corner. Tarted it up a little, was very hazy originally.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

View attachment 98566Sorry looks like Bramall Lane John St. corner. Tarted it up a little, was very hazy originally.

Get down there to shovel snow off the pitch if you want to see a game on Saturday...

 

[Silent Blade]

View attachment 98566Sorry looks like Bramall Lane John St. corner. Tarted it up a little, was very hazy originally.

Thanks but I would like the early 1970s poster

 

[XM657]

Thanks but I would like the early 1970s poster

The impossible can be done immediately, miracles take a little longer. Keep my eye out.

 

[XM657]

Get down there to shovel snow off the pitch if you want to see a game on Saturday...

Is this the match with the press photo of players clearing snow off the Terrace?

 

[Bert]

Thanks but I would like the early 1970s poster

There used to be two outside Bert's Junior School. Wednesday and United.
They changed the name of the opponents every week.

 

[Silent Blade]

There used to be two outside Bert's Junior School. Wednesday and United.
They changed the name of the opponents every week.

United's poster had black drawings of players challenging mid air, Wendy's had Ozzie Owl kicking a football

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Is this the match with the press photo of players clearing snow off the Terrace?

This might be the match you’re thinking. These are the photos I have from the Palace match:

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Wasn't Dennis Finnegan at one time the organist at St Marie's RC Cathedral Church at some point?

There were three Fenoughty brothers as far as I remember from my time at De La Salle,

Tom was the eldest I believe and there was Mick and I think the youngest was Nick, or it could be the other round - such a long time ago. They could definitely all play a bit!

Wasn't one of the others also on United's books at some point?

Talking of St Marie's I do remember one midnight mass, back in the late 60s, getting up to something, that was not at all holy, with a Notre Dame lass at the back of the assembled congregation.

As I understand it , as a Catholic you would have had to tell the priest about that when you went to confess your sins . I bet that was a bit embarrassing .

“ What sins do you have to confess , my son ?”

“ Well Father , when you were giving your sermon on Christmas Eve , I was finger fucking a lass from Notre Dame on the back row .”