Crowds allowed into grounds in October..

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That’ll be the smokefree legislation banning smoking in indoor public spaces on public health grounds enacted in 2006 by a Labour Government in Scotland, 2007 in England by a Labour Government, in Wales by a Labour Government, and in Northern Ireland by a cross-party government. But other than that, spot-on.

Damn tories managed to ban it across the World too 😁
 

Even with a vaccine we will be looking at reduced capacity / socially distanced events for the next few years. 20k at Glastonbury instead of the usual 200k. 5k per day in at the Wimbledon Championships instead of the usual 50k Per day. Footbll will have to follow similar guidelines Can see the first big football event being the FA cup final in front of 20k in May.

All of these are of course summer events, in the winter we will still face tougher restrictions for a few Years to come. It’s baby steps for a long time yet I am afraid.

Germany had quite a few fans back in the ground, I reckon we can get at least half of the capacity back to the lane.

Some clubs really cannot survive much longer without fans back in the ground and the PL/FA can't keep chipping the EFL £50million here and there indefinitely.
 
Even with a vaccine we will be looking at reduced capacity / socially distanced events for the next few years. 20k at Glastonbury instead of the usual 200k. 5k per day in at the Wimbledon Championships instead of the usual 50k Per day. Footbll will have to follow similar guidelines Can see the first big football event being the FA cup final in front of 20k in May.

All of these are of course summer events, in the winter we will still face tougher restrictions for a few Years to come. It’s baby steps for a long time yet I am afraid.

By the summer we will have dozens of vaccines working. Sure there will be a lag until enough are protected but if we can get enough vaccinations by next autumn we'll be back to normal
 
So if Sheffield drops to tier 1 and has hardly any cases, while London’s rates rocket, you’d be happy not being able to go to football because it would upset the Spurs fans?
Obviously I would I believe in fair play I’m not a cheating Pig
 
Germany had quite a few fans back in the ground, I reckon we can get at least half of the capacity back to the lane.

Some clubs really cannot survive much longer without fans back in the ground and the PL/FA can't keep chipping the EFL £50million here and there indefinitely.

Yeah as I said I expect we will get reduced capacity crowds within the next few months but if people are expecting full stadiums, full pubs before kick off and at full time and thousands of away fans to be allowed travel around the country every weekend to happen anytime in the next year then they are going to be disappointed.
 
Yeah as I said I expect we will get reduced capacity crowds within the next few months but if people are expecting full stadiums, full pubs before kick off and at full time and thousands of away fans to be allowed travel around the country every weekend to happen anytime in the next year then they are going to be disappointed.

Not sure away fans will be allowed for a few seasons. Like you think it will be very gradual and could still be 2-3 years before full crowds are allowed. A mass vaccination programme is going to take a long time.


Not sure of the fairness as some have said of some having fans and others not? Seems a bit unfair but then the UK will be like that for lots of other things and opening up slowly depending where you live.
 
Not sure away fans will be allowed for a few seasons. Like you think it will be very gradual and could still be 2-3 years before full crowds are allowed. A mass vaccination programme is going to take a long time.


Not sure of the fairness as some have said of some having fans and others not? Seems a bit unfair but then the UK will be like that for lots of other things and opening up slowly depending where you live.
Wont be as long as 2 years
 
Wont be as long as 2 years

What gives you such confidence grounds will be full quicker than 2 years? I don't see it and neither do most of the experts who maintain even with a vaccine there will be forms of social distancing hopefully to a lesser degree for quite a few years.

Vaccinating 68 million people...twice...so 136 million jabs..as follow up needed 3 weeks after is not going to be done by next August. Not a chance. The UK govt only ordered enough from Pfizer to vaccinate a third of the country initially. Guess more vaccines may become available though.

Still not sure they will allow 30-60,000 people most of which won't have had the above (priority from early 2021 for first 4 or 5 months will be vulnerable/elderly/those in essential jobs) to be rammed in next to each other until the virus is under control. The demographic of football fans is such that a high % of those that normally attend would not fit the above criteria and not be vaccinated.

Going from 0 attending to full grounds by next season is ambitious and I hope it comes true but its just unrealistic. It will be small crowds and maybe 50% at best for a good portion of next season I feel and that's ambitious even. Hope I am wrong. If I/we get to see any live matches in 2020 then I'm seeing that as a bonus but accepted I probably won't be going to the Lane again for around another year.

Ultimately as Ball_Sup (Phil) says there's no point getting worked up or angry about not being able to go. We literally can't control what decisions are made. I've resigned myself to not going for a good while and adapted even though it was a big part of my life. I am not getting excited about these stories about fans as we have heard similiar things quite a bit the last 6 months and now even abroad for the most.part we are now not seeing any or many fans being allowed.
 
What gives you such confidence grounds will be full quicker than 2 years? I don't see it and neither do most of the experts who maintain even with a vaccine there will be forms of social distancing hopefully to a lesser degree for quite a few years.

Vaccinating 68 million people...twice...so 136 million jabs..as follow up needed 3 weeks after is not going to be done by next August. Not a chance. The UK govt only ordered enough from Pfizer to vaccinate a third of the country initially. Guess more vaccines may become available though.

Still not sure they will allow 30-60,000 people most of which won't have had the above (priority from early 2021 for first 4 or 5 months will be vulnerable/elderly/those in essential jobs) to be rammed in next to each other until the virus is under control. The demographic of football fans is such that a high % of those that normally attend would not fit the above criteria and not be vaccinated.

Going from 0 attending to full grounds by next season is ambitious and I hope it comes true but its just unrealistic. It will be small crowds and maybe 50% at best for a good portion of next season I feel and that's ambitious even. Hope I am wrong. If I/we get to see any live matches in 2020 then I'm seeing that as a bonus but accepted I probably won't be going to the Lane again for around another year.

Ultimately as Ball_Sup (Phil) says there's no point getting worked up or angry about not being able to go. We literally can't control what decisions are made. I've resigned myself to not going for a good while and adapted even though it was a big part of my life. I am not getting excited about these stories about fans as we have heard similiar things quite a bit the last 6 months and now even abroad for the most.part we are now not seeing any or many fans being allowed.
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I think the proposals are just to placate football fans, so they can say "we have considered it seriously but it`s not practical or fair to most areas of the country due to the tier system". Slightly off tangent, I have thought every Tory government have tried to eliminate every "working class" pursuit for years, high tax on cigs and beer, no smoking indoors (leading to thousands of pubs closing) and now no football.
Nothing to do with a Tory govt. it’s the same everywhere
 
I doubt we’ll see fans in the ground this season unfortunately.

It’s going to take at about a year to convince then vaccinate enough people or reach herd immunity.
 


Looks like fans back in low numbers in low tier areas. Assuming tiers will be harsher than the failed ones before though. Won't find out until Thursday who is in what tier
 
I wouldn't get too exited just yet. Looking at the current infection rates I'd hazard a guess most of the north will be in Tier3.

Yep. I'm sure Torquay United will be fine though 😂

Vaccines in larger numbers from January. It'll soon come round.
 

Our Kop, with the outside concourse, is actually quite well setup for letting fans back in.
 
Not sure away fans will be allowed for a few seasons. Like you think it will be very gradual and could still be 2-3 years before full crowds are allowed. A mass vaccination programme is going to take a long time.


Not sure of the fairness as some have said of some having fans and others not? Seems a bit unfair but then the UK will be like that for lots of other things and opening up slowly depending where you live.

But Matt Hancock was on TV this morning saying full normal life should be back by just after Easter. Surely a senior politician wouldn’t lie to us about something as serious as that? 🤔
 
But Matt Hancock was on TV this morning saying full normal life should be back by just after Easter. Surely a senior politician wouldn’t lie to us about something as serious as that? 🤔
Brilliant, get it stuck in the diary! He hasn't got a word of it wrong so far.
 
Brilliant, get it stuck in the diary! He hasn't got a word of it wrong so far.

Indeed.

Having said that, it would be entirely typical if, having been derailed by this pandemic at a point when we seemed to have an unstoppable momentum towards a European slot with plum fixtures at the Lane against Spurs and Chelsea not to mention a Cup Quarter-Final with Arsenal and a final home match send-off versus Everton on the horizon, we were finally able to get back into the Lane to witness the last rites of an already relegated side in fixtures against sodding Palace and Burnley.

Is there any wonder that many Blades fans are fatalistic and believe that things always go against us?
 
Even with a vaccine we will be looking at reduced capacity / socially distanced events for the next few years. 20k at Glastonbury instead of the usual 200k. 5k per day in at the Wimbledon Championships instead of the usual 50k Per day. Footbll will have to follow similar guidelines Can see the first big football event being the FA cup final in front of 20k in May.

All of these are of course summer events, in the winter we will still face tougher restrictions for a few Years to come. It’s baby steps for a long time yet I am afraid.
If that's the case be nowt left to watch mate..
 
Just said on the news that Tier two will allow 2000 fans, it's possible Sheffield will be in Tier 2?
 
Just said on the news that Tier two will allow 2000 fans, it's possible Sheffield will be in Tier 2?
It should be but you can bet it won't be
 
I bet all these so called fans wanting Wilder out will want to be apart of the 4000.

They dont deserve to imo.
 
In Sheffield the infection rate now stands at 291.4 new cases per 100,000 people week ending Nov 7 i think that is tier 2 .
 

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