Lundstram

[bertieblade]

I would offload him and Norwood ( now that is controversial) in January and bring in a decent wide right midfield player.

 

[mattbianco1]

I'm sorry but Lundstram is not good enough.

He was our worst player on the pitch by a country mile.

Anyone else nearly throw their kid at the TV when he lost the ball last 10mins near the subs benches?

Tad harsh picking out the one thing he did wrong in the game.

Try praising what was an overall great performance by the entire team. Switched off a couple of times and could've been punished, but could've scored 3 or 4 with better finishing.

Let's not let the fact we were playing the World Champions get in the way of slagging Lundstram's mis placed pass though.

 

[Captain Obvious]

The guy is a liability. His performances look half-arsed, he regularly dives recklessly into tackles that he can't win...not giving a fuck if he gets himself sent off. Needs taking out of the team before the referee does it for us. There must be a better option than him!

 

[mattbianco1]

For what it's worth, when Lowe is fit. I'd play Osborn over Lundstram and Lowe at LWB.

That's not to bash Lundstram, it's just that a left footer is more suited to LCM. I thought Ampadu looked accomplished in DCM and a lot more mobile than Norwood. For that reason I would give him the shirt to lose.

Slagging Lundstram for 1 miss placed pass, despite playing on the wrong side of midfield is borderline pathetic.

 

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

Tad harsh picking out the one thing he did wrong in the game.

Try praising what was an overall great performance by the entire team. Switched off a couple of times and could've been punished, but could've scored 3 or 4 with better finishing.

Let's not let the fact we were playing the World Champions get in the way of slagging Lundstram's mis placed pass though.

Have a day off. I've praised our performance on various channels all night ta.

However, it must be balanced out and Lundstram was the only non performance tonight.

 

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

For what it's worth, when Lowe is fit. I'd play Osborn over Lundstram and Lowe at LWB.

That's not to bash Lundstram, it's just that a left footer is more suited to LCM. I thought Ampadu looked accomplished in DCM and a lot more mobile than Norwood. For that reason I would give him the shirt to lose.

Slagging Lundstram for 1 miss placed pass, despite playing on the wrong side of midfield is borderline pathetic.

Fuck me!! That was one of many lowlights tonight for him. The one I highlighted was the one that riled me most out of about 7 things. He's useless.

 

[mattbianco1]

Have a day off. I've praised our performance on various channels all night ta.

However, it must be balanced out and Lundstram was the only non performance tonight.

I couldn't single out 1 player for fault tonight. Not one

As I said above. I'd play Osborn over him at LCM, but with Lowe injured we would've had to play Robinson.
Lundstram did well tonight under the circumstances.

Lundstram was in for the fitness tonight as we knew we wouldn't have much of the ball.

Who would you have played instead of him tonight? Don't say Norwood because he can't do that job.

 

[Toronto Blade]

Lundstram lacks confidence whenever he makes a run with a defender facing him he stops which slows down the play then passes backwards.
He is built like a tank but has no stamina he runs out of energy .He looks better used as a sub. He has been jogging back into play instead of other defenders who storm back as if their life depended on it. If he thinks he is better than what the club thinks he is worth then he should show that on the field.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Another player that is not good enough. Glad he hasn't signed a new contract.

 

[Hodgesleftpeg]

I’ve had a few beers so haven’t checked what’s been put previously but........ WTF was
he thinking diving in after two minutes of the match, halfway line, opponent with his back to goal and he makes no attempt to win the ball.. yellow card.. it seems like he can’t do anything wrong and is taking the piss and stretching it as far as he can until he signs a pre-contract

 

[ATL Recs]

I couldn't single out 1 player for fault tonight. Not one

As I said above. I'd play Osborn over him at LCM, but with Lowe injured we would've had to play Robinson.
Lundstram did well tonight under the circumstances.

Lundstram was in for the fitness tonight as we knew we wouldn't have much of the ball.

Who would you have played instead of him tonight? Don't say Norwood because he can't do that job.

Osborne is not good enough for CM wing back yes

 

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

I couldn't single out 1 player for fault tonight. Not one

As I said above. I'd play Osborn over him at LCM, but with Lowe injured we would've had to play Robinson.
Lundstram did well tonight under the circumstances.

Lundstram was in for the fitness tonight as we knew we wouldn't have much of the ball.

Who would you have played instead of him tonight? Don't say Norwood because he can't do that job.

Osborne in for him and Lowe in Osborn's place. Easy.

EDIT: next game that is. Last night's game there wasn't anyone else...but the criticism still stands on him. Ample chances but hasnt taken any IMO.

 

[BladeTillIDie]

I’ve had a few beers so haven’t checked what’s been put previously but........ WTF was
he thinking diving in after two minutes of the match, halfway line, opponent with his back to goal and he makes no attempt to win the ball.. yellow card.. it seems like he can’t do anything wrong and is taking the piss and stretching it as far as he can until he signs a pre-contract

Poor players usually get booked silly and often. .

 

[blademan31]

We need goals and Lundstram (however much people don't like him) gets himself into goalscoring positions, and as we saw last season, scores. Not to say Osborn wouldn't do well there but when we're struggling for goals I think we need players on the pitch who can chip in with a few, especially when the strikers aren't.

You take Lunny out of that team last night, and with no Fleck either, I'd be struggling to name a player who is going to score for us...

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Hope i was'nt the only one hoping and praying he did not grab the ball and take the penalty.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

Tarkowski doing a lundstram

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Tarkowski doing a lundstram

Really? Have you got a link for the article where Lundstram speaks out about the contract being nowhere near what he was going to sign?

 

[BushBlade]

Really? Have you got a link for the article where Lundstram speaks out about the contract being nowhere near what he was going to sign?

I haven’t heard of us turning down offers for Lundstram either. Tarkowski was subject to a lot of speculation in the last window, and previous ones with clubs being linked with him. He was never going to stay at Burnley.
For all my criticism of KM, I still think his ‘when the big dogs come calling...’ comments are broadly true. Team spirit is important at every level and holding players to contracts when they don’t want to be there can be detrimental to that.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

I haven’t heard of us turning down offers for Lundstram either. Tarkowski was subject to a lot of speculation in the last window, and previous ones with clubs being linked with him. He was never going to stay at Burnley.
For all my criticism of KM, I still think his ‘when the big dogs come calling...’ comments are broadly true. Team spirit is important at every level and holding players to contracts when they don’t want to be there can be detrimental to that.

There’s a football food chain always has been always will be we sign players from teams lower we sell to players people higher

 

[LoughboroBlade]

I haven’t heard of us turning down offers for Lundstram either. Tarkowski was subject to a lot of speculation in the last window, and previous ones with clubs being linked with him. He was never going to stay at Burnley.
For all my criticism of KM, I still think his ‘when the big dogs come calling...’ comments are broadly true. Team spirit is important at every level and holding players to contracts when they don’t want to be there can be detrimental to that.

I agree with that. So does Wilder for that matter (the “I’ll drive them myself if they want to go” comment back in summer 2016 set his view on that early on). I’m yet to see any evidence that Lundstram wants to go at this current moment in time, rather than say wanting to go next summer. We have a contract offered by us, turned down by him, and the manager suggesting he’s made it clear that he’s intending to see out the existing contract. It’s likely that’s in part seen a lack of offers in too – if the agent is clearly not going around trying to encourage a bid, bids probably aren’t likely to materialise.

 

[BushBlade]

I agree with that. So does Wilder for that matter (the “I’ll drive them myself if they want to go” comment back in summer 2016 set his view on that early on). I’m yet to see any evidence that Lundstram wants to go at this current moment in time, rather than say wanting to go next summer. We have a contract offered by us, turned down by him, and the manager suggesting he’s made it clear that he’s intending to see out the existing contract. It’s likely that’s in part seen a lack of offers in too – if the agent is clearly not going around trying to encourage a bid, bids probably aren’t likely to materialise.

I’m not suggesting we’re holding Lundstram against his will. Wilder knows better than anyone how a player’s value drops when they’re in the last year of their contract and, as you say, I don’t think Lundstram has had the offers he was expecting.
I think Tarkowski is trying to engineer a move in the JTW.
I wonder if Wilder thought Lundstram’s issue was with game time and had been playing him to show him he can still have a big role to play, hoping he’d then sign a new contract.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Nobody is willing to pay a transfer fee for John Lundstram on top of his inflated wage demands. Hence the lack of interest. He's not that good so doesn't justify the spend. I hope he leaves in January & we bring in a replacement. He's not good for the squad at the moment.

 

[Champagneblade]

I think Burnley were a bit naive if they turned down in excess of 30m for him.

He's a good player. But it's not as if he fulfills an irreplaceable role for them. Like say O'Connell for us.

For a club their size, they may regret that.

Difference between him and Lunny of course is we'll get 4m if we are lucky. They'll get about 30m if he's pushing now.

Laugh all you will, but Phil Jones is getting no game time. He could've joined in loan and they take 30m from West Ham if they didn't want to scratch around for a perm deal.

 

[bertieblade]

I doubt we will get anything for Lundstram as he will run his contract down

 

[Tezza1889]

I doubt we will get anything for Lundstram as he will run his contract down

Agreed, he's looking at maxing out his earnings at the moment and sees this as his big chance to set himself up for life financially, can't say I blame him, just hope he doesn't upset the whole squad with this..

The members on here discussed money years ago, and how it affects groups of people / players who are doing the same job, but on different rates of pay, we saw this coming, and I do think it's unsettled the squad..

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Agreed, he's looking at maxing out his earnings at the moment and sees this as his big chance to set himself up for life financially, can't say I blame him, just hope he doesn't upset the whole squad with this..

The members on here discussed money years ago, and how it affects groups of people / players who are doing the same job, but on different rates of pay, we saw this coming, and I do think it's unsettled the squad..

I don't blame him either. What an absolute chancer though.

He's been with us a few years. Last summer, genuinely, if he'd been shipped out to League 1 nobody would have been surprised.
We lost every game we played with him in the team in the Championship & Wilder publicly defender him. Wilder keeps the faith, puts him in in the PL, much to everyone's shock, he plays really well in about 5-10 games & now believes he's worth as much as (if not more than) everybody else in our squad.

Absolutely zero loyalty.

It's up to individuals whether they think that's acceptable or not. Some will say "look after number 1" & others will see him as a snake. Either way, it's a shame we're in such a desperate situation as I don't think it reflects well on us that he's still starting games despite all of this & Wilder's public comments.

 

[Updemblades]

I don't blame him either. What an absolute chancer though.

He's been with us a few years. Last summer, genuinely, if he'd been shipped out to League 1 nobody would have been surprised.
We lost every game we played with him in the team in the Championship & Wilder publicly defender him. Wilder keeps the faith, puts him in in the PL, much to everyone's shock, he plays really well in about 5-10 games & now believes he's worth as much as (if not more than) everybody else in our squad.

Absolutely zero loyalty.

It's up to individuals whether they think that's acceptable or not. Some will say "look after number 1" & others will see him as a snake. Either way, it's a shame we're in such a desperate situation as I don't think it reflects well on us that he's still starting games despite all of this & Wilder's public comments.

Nail on the head for me that.

 

[Tezza1889]

I don't blame him either. What an absolute chancer though.

He's been with us a few years. Last summer, genuinely, if he'd been shipped out to League 1 nobody would have been surprised.
We lost every game we played with him in the team in the Championship & Wilder publicly defender him. Wilder keeps the faith, puts him in in the PL, much to everyone's shock, he plays really well in about 5-10 games & now believes he's worth as much as (if not more than) everybody else in our squad.

Absolutely zero loyalty.

It's up to individuals whether they think that's acceptable or not. Some will say "look after number 1" & others will see him as a snake. Either way, it's a shame we're in such a desperate situation as I don't think it reflects well on us that he's still starting games despite all of this & Wilder's public comments.

Mee too... Nailed it, no loyalty to the bloke who gave him his chance..

 

[Weasel]

I really hope we bin him in the January transfer window and move him on. Bring in a couple of midfielders (they don't have to be expensive and there are a few good uns in the championship or lower who we could bring in to develop and can't be worse than Lundy so far this season), and a new left centre half.

Still think a wide attacking player would have served us well this year if we need to change it up top later on in games.

 

[Maidenhead]

Mee too... Nailed it, no loyalty to the bloke who gave him his chance..

I've never had so much loyalty to an employer that I wouldn't leave if a better opportunity arose at a competitor.

To him it's just his job and he's doing what anyone else on here would do in similar circumstances.

His only loyalties are to himself and his family.