Incoming? Yacou Meite

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The whole point of the stadium purchase is that it is purchased by the club, using club money... so that the club owns it.

Were you expecting the Prince to buy the stadium outright for circa £50m and then gift it to us?

The money used to purchase the stadium has come from our TV revenue.
Why would we spend al of that now when we can do it using a low interest short term loan?
Would you buy your home outright if you had the cash, or take out a mortgage from the bank so that you still had some money in your pocket to spend on essentials...

Don't get your point about the stadium. The Prince has acquired a £50 million stadium in effect for free by using club funds. If he sells the club for £100 million next week, do you think he will give the club the £50 million back?? Most people who purchase clubs buy everything including the ground/training facilities using their own funds. The only time I've known this before was when the Glazers used club funds to aid their purchase of the club (via a loan agreement).
 
Why would a Chansiri or similar leave the club in the shit? Chansiri spent money at the other club with a plan to try and make it to the prem, he has since put the club up for sale to try and presumably get some of his money back, but in the mean time he continues to finance the club, so why if we managed to attract a billionaire owner, would it be a bad thing? How long have Chelsea, Man City, etc been in the prem and they seem to be doing ok?


Can you be a little bit realistic.
How many prem sides are owned by Billionaires?
How many of those are actually in it for the craic as opposed to whatever form of money earning scheme they use it for.

How many Billionaires like Chansiri have come into football, thrown millions in the hundreds at it then left again after achieving sod all. The answer is far more than those being successful at it!

The risk of an owner...billionaire or not, just dropping their support or losing interest is a major concern. While losing ridiculous sums of money you’re completely reliant on them supporting the club. And it’s far too risky
 
I can’t believe the arrogant pomposity in some of the posts that are now appearing. Some of the shit on here makes NKT sound humble.

I am in my 50th season as a Blade and we are in a place that I never dreamed possible 4 years ago. Our owner is a sports fanatic who describes himself as the custodian of our club, and yet people call him out. We are financially sustainable, we have no significant debt, we have no threats, we have one of the two best English managers on the planet, we are in the Premier League.

There is not another club that I would change our situation for. Do you want to be owned by a billionaire or a state investment fund, who might be gone on a whim, leaving you with a completely unsustainable business?

We still have our club. I loved the dream of Europe again last season, just like I did under Furphy more than 40 years ago, but I don’t want us to sell our soul to achieve it.

Don’t become one of those “fans” who after a few years in Europe regards 5th as failure. Leave ambition to Wilder, he has bucketloads, and just enjoy the moment.

Today is a gift - that’s why they call it the present.
 
I can’t believe the arrogant pomposity in some of the posts that are now appearing. Some of the shit on here makes NKT sound humble.

I am in my 50th season as a Blade and we are in a place that I never dreamed possible 4 years ago. Our owner is a sports fanatic who describes himself as the custodian of our club, and yet people call him out. We are financially sustainable, we have no significant debt, we have no threats, we have one of the two best English managers on the planet, we are in the Premier League.

There is not another club that I would change our situation for. Do you want to be owned by a billionaire or a state investment fund, who might be gone on a whim, leaving you with a completely unsustainable business?

We still have our club. I loved the dream of Europe again last season, just like I did under Furphy more than 40 years ago, but I don’t want us to sell our soul to achieve it.

Don’t become one of those “fans” who after a few years in Europe regards 5th as failure. Leave ambition to Wilder, he has bucketloads, and just enjoy the moment.

Today is a gift - that’s why they call it the present.

😘
 
Why should the current owner not put the stadium back into the club now? If he want's to sell it, it would need it's own stadium surely? or is he just hoping like the last owner to muddle through and hope that the managers can work magic (Warnock for McCabe and Wilder for the Prince)?

End of the day the club should now be put up for sale and not held onto by someone who can't personally afford to run a prem club.

After the success of the last few years all of which have taken place under the ownership of HRH you suggest that he does not have the clubs future at heart and should put the club up for sale?
There is more to business and football clubs than money ask the question of the team up the road

Be thankful for what we have, Wilder is happy, the players are happy and subsequently the supporters should be happy.
We have come from no where under McCabe to somewhere under HRH.
Business like this evolves by taking small
Calculated steps
 
I can’t believe the arrogant pomposity in some of the posts that are now appearing. Some of the shit on here makes NKT sound humble.

I am in my 50th season as a Blade and we are in a place that I never dreamed possible 4 years ago. Our owner is a sports fanatic who describes himself as the custodian of our club, and yet people call him out. We are financially sustainable, we have no significant debt, we have no threats, we have one of the two best English managers on the planet, we are in the Premier League.

There is not another club that I would change our situation for. Do you want to be owned by a billionaire or a state investment fund, who might be gone on a whim, leaving you with a completely unsustainable business?

We still have our club. I loved the dream of Europe again last season, just like I did under Furphy more than 40 years ago, but I don’t want us to sell our soul to achieve it.

Don’t become one of those “fans” who after a few years in Europe regards 5th as failure. Leave ambition to Wilder, he has bucketloads, and just enjoy the moment.

Today is a gift - that’s why they call it the present.

"There is not another club that I would change our situation for. Do you want to be owned by a billionaire or a state investment fund, who might be gone on a whim, leaving you with a completely unsustainable business?"

Yes I would because the recent people looking to buy clubs are business people who believe that they can make it work and so do I. Give CWAK a decent budget and watch us go, it's worth the gamble.

Also, these people are now not just ploughing money into a club without an exit strategy, they appear to know just how much to gamble and not to gamble for their own purposes without knowing the consequences.
 
I can’t believe the arrogant pomposity in some of the posts that are now appearing. Some of the shit on here makes NKT sound humble.

I am in my 50th season as a Blade and we are in a place that I never dreamed possible 4 years ago. Our owner is a sports fanatic who describes himself as the custodian of our club, and yet people call him out. We are financially sustainable, we have no significant debt, we have no threats, we have one of the two best English managers on the planet, we are in the Premier League.

There is not another club that I would change our situation for. Do you want to be owned by a billionaire or a state investment fund, who might be gone on a whim, leaving you with a completely unsustainable business?

We still have our club. I loved the dream of Europe again last season, just like I did under Furphy more than 40 years ago, but I don’t want us to sell our soul to achieve it.

Don’t become one of those “fans” who after a few years in Europe regards 5th as failure. Leave ambition to Wilder, he has bucketloads, and just enjoy the moment.

Today is a gift - that’s why they call it the present.
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Love Chris Wilder but if Meite and Burke are what we are the type of player we are in for then we will be looking at a relegation battle we need far better quality than that our squad is already weaker than last season.

So I don't understand this view at all, and people keep repeating it

Because we lost Deano? Personally don't think in terms of shot stopping ability Ramsdale is that far behind him, and Deano looked particularly good with us because he was often only called into action to pull off worldies, the defence handled the rest.. I fucking love Dean btw, think he can be world class within 2 years, but too many act like losing him leaves a gaping hole, for me Ramsdale combined with our back line is more than good enough and pretty equivalent

Or is it because Lundstram might go? Berge btw is 10x the player Lunny is. Would be good to have Lunny in the squad for depth though I'll admit that one, but he isn't gone yet and I imagine we will keep him because it doesn't seem like anyone else is too fussed about picking him up

Maybe because of all the hoo-ha over letting Freeman go out on loan? Even though he contributed about as much as Simon Moore did last season

I said in the Burke thread already, I know little about him but based on what others have said, I believe he'd be a great addition to the squad and to me seems like a perfect Wilder signing, has a lot of versatility even if he's not a polished product

Really bored of coming here every day looking for any genuine news or updates on who we're after and just seeing the same old moaning about how we're not doing enough to improve

Window's still open for over a month yet ffs, some of you lot really need to have some faith in the man who has taken us from the brink of self-destruction to challenging for Champions League places within 4 years

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He's a wide forward a bit like this chap we are apparently after.
I don’t want this guy anyway so not particularly bothered but I would say this one is better than Robinson. But would rather have an out and out striker.
 
He is garbage reading fans are saying let him go
Not the ones I have spoken to. Without him they have no strike power.
He certainly isn’t garbage given his background and the number of goals he scores.
Good enough for Premier ? I don’t know but there is only one way to find out.
Just remember where nearly all our “Premiership” players came from.
 

"There is not another club that I would change our situation for. Do you want to be owned by a billionaire or a state investment fund, who might be gone on a whim, leaving you with a completely unsustainable business?"

Yes I would because the recent people looking to buy clubs are business people who believe that they can make it work and so do I. Give CWAK a decent budget and watch us go, it's worth the gamble.

Also, these people are now not just ploughing money into a club without an exit strategy, they appear to know just how much to gamble and not to gamble for their own purposes without knowing the consequences.


So you want the club to be an unsustainable business? Brilliant. You’re a fool.
You want a billionaire who believes they can make it work? Well how many actually do?

Finally...all these clubs, all owned by billionaires, none of which really give a toss about the club, history or fans. I don’t accept they do it for the love of the game, I’m sure most of it is either for their image, or for some money fiddle somewhere. After all, most of them nay nearly all don’t actually have cash in the bank. It’s usually propped up by some Other business somewhere with them paying themselves some tidy dividend or creaming money from those transfer fees. Money is generally always a loan, not a gift.

There’s only so much that can be won or done to be deemed a success. Last season we finished above many clubs owned by billionaires with wage bills over £100m plus. Which owner is going about it the right way? Ours or those who have clearly failed??
 
Not the ones I have spoken to. Without him they have no strike power.
He certainly isn’t garbage given his background and the number of goals he scores.
Good enough for Premier ? I don’t know but there is only one way to find out.
Just remember where nearly all our “Premiership” players came from.
I’d Prefer Puscas from them tbh.
 
Not the ones I have spoken to. Without him they have no strike power.
He certainly isn’t garbage given his background and the number of goals he scores.
Good enough for Premier ? I don’t know but there is only one way to find out.
Just remember where nearly all our “Premiership” players came from.
Dont agree where does he fit?
 
Don't get your point about the stadium. The Prince has acquired a £50 million stadium in effect for free by using club funds. If he sells the club for £100 million next week, do you think he will give the club the £50 million back?? Most people who purchase clubs buy everything including the ground/training facilities using their own funds. The only time I've known this before was when the Glazers used club funds to aid their purchase of the club (via a loan agreement).

No he'll have to pay the mortgage back out of the proceeds like any other transaction of that type.

My god there's some serious bedwetters on this thread!
 
How many Billionaires like Chansiri have come into football, thrown millions in the hundreds at it then left again after achieving sod all. The answer is far more than those being successful at it!

Chansiri is about as much a billionaire as I am.

He's playing with Daddy's loose change that's all.
 
So you want the club to be an unsustainable business? Brilliant. You’re a fool.
You want a billionaire who believes they can make it work? Well how many actually do?

Finally...all these clubs, all owned by billionaires, none of which really give a toss about the club, history or fans. I don’t accept they do it for the love of the game, I’m sure most of it is either for their image, or for some money fiddle somewhere. After all, most of them nay nearly all don’t actually have cash in the bank. It’s usually propped up by some Other business somewhere with them paying themselves some tidy dividend or creaming money from those transfer fees. Money is generally always a loan, not a gift.

There’s only so much that can be won or done to be deemed a success. Last season we finished above many clubs owned by billionaires with wage bills over £100m plus. Which owner is going about it the right way? Ours or those who have clearly failed??


I have tried to explain, a lot of the new type of investors know just where they can make money and not make money, so they don't just plough money into clubs without a limit.

The Chansiri thing obviously got out of control, but if you look at the current prem owners (many a lot wealthier than ours) keep their club within their own means with plans to make money out of other interests or club related sales. Chransiri still finances the other club though, which he gets my full respect for.

History, we live in today and now and what a bright future that the club could have with the right investment/owner?
 
The family own the other club from what I understand, still they have put their money where their mouth is.

And how far has that got them???

Please don't start trying to tell me you'd rather have Chansiri than HRH or you seriously need to reevaluate your life.
 
TBH I think keeping Robinson might be a better option?

Meite scored 17 goals in 45 matches last season, all competitions.
Robinson 5 in 38, though obviously he was in the Prem for the first half of the season.

Partly based on the rumoured targets this summer, I think Wilder has decided to get more power, pace and athleticism into the team. I think we should expect a tweak in playing style, or at least we'd like the option to attack with more pace, maybe try to catch teams on the break more often. We may think a player like Meite would be a better fit, a bigger threat than the more skilful Robinson.
 
I have tried to explain, a lot of the new type of investors know just where they can make money and not make money, so they don't just plough money into clubs without a limit.

The Chansiri thing obviously got out of control, but if you look at the current prem owners (many a lot wealthier than ours) keep their club within their own means with plans to make money out of other interests or club related sales. Chransiri still finances the other club though, which he gets my full respect for.

History, we live in today and now and what a bright future that the club could have with the right investment/owner?

I can only assume that you are not a businessman as you seem to think that the only way to get success and profit is to throw money at things.

Yes it helps but is useless without trust, a business plan and a good management team.
You do not throw money at things without consequences, think of Fulham and Villa, they threw money at things and guess what??
 
And how far has that got them???

Please don't start trying to tell me you'd rather have Chansiri than HRH or you seriously need to reevaluate your life.

Thing is certain circumstances change your direction and plans, guess it's fate. No doubt Chansiri pumped in millions to get to the EPL he just recruited crap managers who then recruited crap over priced players on big wages.

HRH & McCabe went the cheap route by appointing Wilder and got damn lucky.
 

I can only assume that you are not a businessman as you seem to think that the only way to get success and profit is to throw money at things.

Yes it helps but is useless without trust, a business plan and a good management team.
You do not throw money at things without consequences, think of Fulham and Villa, they threw money at things and guess what??

Yes, I do own my own business and I do also know who to pay the most and not pay the most, because the highest paid bring me the most profit in.

In terms of investment, I have just invested probably 40% of my current turnover back into my business to try and re-kick into gear after COVID-19, so yes I do understand investment and gambles in business.
 

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