CONFIRMED Oliver Burke

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OnmiEdson said:
Our Chris seems adept at finding these players who go on to confound all the critics
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But has he found him or sees him as a makeweight squad player to get rid of Robinson?
Whatever, still trust Wilder to do what’s best.
 

Tbh Robinson out is happening anyway and a bonus in terms of off the wage bill and a few quid in ...would rather splash the cash elsewhere ..but if Burke comes in he has the ability no doubt...but does he have the attitude...??? lets wait and see ...
 
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If the other way around,and Burke had been loaned to us and helped get us promoted,the fans would see him as a player on the up and one to try and buy,and if we could ship out a player who has done nothing for us who the fans would not bat an eyelid at if they never saw him in a SUFC shirt again,like Kean Bryan,this would be wonderful business.

WBA have everything to gain from this swop deal as it is,they know all they need to know about Callum Robinson,we (fans) know knaff all about Burke baring a few video's,there is a small chance that secretly CWAK have been having fapping session's over Burke and see him as a player they can squeeze something out of to help us.

Me i would prefer to keep CR and/or use him as a make weight swap deal for any number of Norwich players.
 
Can't say I know much about him or remember him ever playing against us.
But from his highlights video(Yes I know even Connor Sammon looked good in one of those) he would certainly bring something we don't have alot of which is pace and the ability to go past players.
At times last season and certainly after lockdown we would win the ball back and then stop and let the opposition get back behind the ball, it would be nice to have someone with pace and dribbling skills to be positive when we win the ball back.
Now the 1 million dollar question is can he do this in the Premiership ?. CW must think he can and provided he doesn't cost too much must surely be worth a punt.
 
The stereotypical speedboat with no driver. Although looking at his "highlights" reel, he's probably more akin to one of those massive powerboats with a big fuck-off flame spitting jet engine, the ones that just crash through waves like they're not there.
But still with no driver!
 
I don’t think any of us can really say with any real confidence that Callum Robinson will click within our system in a way that he didn’t really last year. The loan in that regard was useful for keeping him fit and high in confidence, but unless our forwards are going to be rearranged into a three (not totally out of the question if we’re tweaking the midfield, though still unlikely) the fact he did well for WBA is kind of irrelevant as a predictor of whether he’ll be any better with us this season.

Burke I’ve paid near to zero attention to in his career so far. But from what I’ve read about him recently he seems like a player with some good physical attributes, but so far has seemed to lack the intelligence or discipline to play in a system where tactics/shape are vital. That feels like a slight red flag. This from an Athletic piece from July sums that up: “Burke’s decision-making was frequently at odds with his team-mates and his positioning was frequently at odds with the system. He kept making the wrong kinds of runs and passes, and in misjudged moments.” You know who that also sounds like? Callum Robinson for us last season. It’s not an obviously great swap for us, but this feels very much like a CWAK Reclamation Project. If it’s a swap it’ll reflect a confidence that they have that they can get more out of Burke in the way we play in the next few years than they can out of Robinson. So in that regard I’m more than happy to trust in their judgment on that.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
I don’t think any of us can really say with any real confidence that Callum Robinson will click within our system in a way that he didn’t really last year. The loan in that regard was useful for keeping him fit and high in confidence, but unless our forwards are going to be rearranged into a three (not totally out of the question if we’re tweaking the midfield, though still unlikely) the fact he did well for WBA is kind of irrelevant as a predictor of whether he’ll be any better with us this season.

Burke I’ve paid near to zero attention to in his career so far. But from what I’ve read about him recently he seems like a player with some good physical attributes, but so far has seemed to lack the intelligence or discipline to play in a system where tactics/shape are vital. That feels like a slight red flag. This from an Athletic piece from July sums that up: “Burke’s decision-making was frequently at odds with his team-mates and his positioning was frequently at odds with the system. He kept making the wrong kinds of runs and passes, and in misjudged moments.” You know who that also sounds like? Callum Robinson for us last season. It’s not an obviously great swap for us, but this feels very much like a CWAK Reclamation Project. If it’s a swap it’ll reflect a confidence that they have that they can get more out of Burke in the way we play in the next few years than they can out of Robinson. So in that regard I’m more than happy to trust in their judgment on that.
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How i feel regarding it is, this season was Robinson going to be a prominent player? i doubt it. On that basis i think this is as you mentioned a project, hes 2 years younger than Robinson, if they think they can have a full 2 years at making him what he can be until he reaches the same age as Robinson then i trust them. A nice scottish contingent here aswell, could feel like hes finally part of a family after such a disrupted career
 
Torrix1889 said:
the first touch and finishing skills of Connor Sammon........and I'm deadly serious!
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Broomhall Blade said:
(Yes I know even Connor Sammon looked good in one of those)
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Speaking of Connor Sammon, his Spanish clone must be the guy to apply the finish after this lovely bit of wing play by Burke against Real Madrid last season.
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After reading the Athletic article and watching a couple of highlights (Celtic assist in Scottish Cup & breaking into the box vs Madrid), the more I am warming to Burke as a striker option.

Seeing how Wilder used the strikers last season he really could offer us another option in games where we are struggling to break down teams. The Celtic breakaway in particular definitely has shades of Mousse vs Everton.

And as a swap for Robinson it makes sense too - considering Robbo faded after a bright start and then was shipped out in Jan. Burke could be introduced more gradually (as he learns the system as it sounds like he would need time to do that), maybe being an impact sub more towards end of Oct/Nov time. If he ends up contributing more than Robbo (over the season as a whole), provides speed & strength combined and we also get a few £mill thrown our way from WBA then this starts to make sense.
 

He certainly isn't scared to take people on (something we are crying out for) but I'm not convinced that after getting everyone out of their seats that there will be an end product. He needs work but he is 2yr younger than Robinson who I don't think is going to get any better.
 
Robinson runs at people.
Dennis runs and beats men.
This guy has similar strengths, so I see what Wilder is aiming for with some of these targets.
 
YES Blade said:
Unless we get taken over by a billionaire, it’s going to be the same every transfer window. A few big money signings with the odd gamble thrown in here and there.

My expectations will be low if we sign Burke, but who knows? Wilder might be able to get the best out of him and we might have a new man for the number 10 role.
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I can still remember myself and many others being underwhelmed by the signing of the lanky streak of lean called Deano from Donny.

Just goes to show that the professionals know a lot more than we do.

(Transfermarket and many other experts on here excepted of course)
 
FriethBlade said:
Cant decide whether this is all going to calm down as the end of the window approaches. Some of the fees and wages demanded seem ridiculous given the current environment.

A few weeks back it seemed like Cash and Robinson had been identified as the wing back cover and we'd end up signing them. Now a fee of 15m and wages of 45k have killed both deals.

The fact thst players like Burke are popping up shows we have irons in other fires but it looks like its going to be difficult to land our first choice targets unless demands get more realistic.

Fortunately we filled out biggest gap signing Ramsdale and I'd reckon a lot of rhe rest of the budget will go on a striker so we are going to have to accept the back up positions are going to be more difficult to fill. Thats probably the reason Rodwell and Jags have been given one year deals.
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Be careful.

Sensible, reasoned, balanced and well thought out posts don't go down too well on here.
 
Maidenhead said:
I can still remember myself and many others being underwhelmed by the signing of the lanky streak of lean called Deano from Donny.

Just goes to show that the professionals know a lot more than we do.

(Transfermarket and many other experts on here excepted of course)
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Problem is: Ratio of Deanos to <Insert name of expensive flops>
 
YES Blade said:
What's Robinson got to do with anything? My question wasn't about him, it's the general point that we seemingly can't pay any player £45k a week cause they'll all be demanding the same.
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What's hard to understand about that?

It's going to a gradual increase year on year, and if a genuine gamechanger becomes available I'm sure we'd have no issues spending 50k a week in wages. We can afford it, we were paying Henderson's wages last season
 
It’s about looking at where we struggled last season.
One was creating chances.
Another was getting the ball up the pitch.

Comparing this lad to Robinson is pointless as they are different types of player. Robinson can’t carry a ball or beat a man like this Burke lad can. What he can do is get the ball and get us up the pitch, where we have struggled to get the ball forward to the strikers he could make a difference with his carrying ability.
He’s clearly not a striker as his ball striking looks to be his weak point. So we won’t be looking at him for that role. But to replace Lunny on the right?
 
Chabuddy G said:
What's hard to understand about that?

It's going to a gradual increase year on year, and if a genuine gamechanger becomes available I'm sure we'd have no issues spending 50k a week in wages. We can afford it, we were paying Henderson's wages last season
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I understand the point, I just think it's bollocks. It's suggesting our squad is made up of petulant children that will be straight into Wilder's office crying because Egan has signed a new contract and is on a few quid a week more.

There will always be players in the same team earning more money than others, they can’t expect to all earn the same because there are many factors which determine a player’s wage. I’d like to think that the current squad can get their head around that fact.
 
YES Blade said:
I understand the point, I just think it's bollocks. It's suggesting our squad is made up of petulant children that will be straight into Wilder's office crying because Egan has signed a new contract and is on a few quid a week more.

There will always be players in the same team earning more money than others, they can’t expect to all earn the same because there are many factors which determine a player’s wage. I’d like to think that the current squad can get their head around that fact.
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I’ll take what you think about a squad you’ve never met over the careful strategic structure our best ever manager has put in place mi owd 👍🏻
 
YES Blade said:
I understand the point, I just think it's bollocks. It's suggesting our squad is made up of petulant children that will be straight into Wilder's office crying because Egan has signed a new contract and is on a few quid a week more.

There will always be players in the same team earning more money than others, they can’t expect to all earn the same because there are many factors which determine a player’s wage. I’d like to think that the current squad can get their head around that fact.
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Egan deserves a wage increase, Anotnee Robinson did not merit £45k a week.
 
EddieColquhoun said:
Apart from playing in the Premier League, the Bundesliga, the SPL, La Liga, 11 caps for his country and £28m in transfers by the age of 20 they're identical.
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I know, it beggars belief.....and their style & ability is almost identical.
 

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