31 points in the bag already - no fear

[Micalijo]

'You can't legislate for mistakes like that. Chris Morgan has been brilliant for the club and he'll win us 10 games, so there's no blame.'

Good luck Gary with getting the other 23 ish points we need - with the shite you've been left by Blackie and McCabe you will definitely need it.

 

[SwissBlade]

Who'd of thought it, less than a week after he takes over, Speed's comments are taken literally and sarcastically ripped apart

Ahhh the Sunshine Band is warming up nicely! Duncs comments of October for "Speed Out" was far too optimistic!

 

[mattbianco1]

From now on any thread started by Micalajio or Lenners, i just wont even bother opening.

That's ridiculous Mic! would you have started that thread if Evans had scored his chance?

 

[chipsncake]

'You can't legislate for mistakes like that. Chris Morgan has been brilliant for the club and he'll win us 10 games, so there's no blame.'

Good luck Gary with getting the other 23 ish points we need - with the shite you've been left by Blackie and McCabe you will definitely need it.

Agree. Speed will need to turn out to be an exceptional manager to turn Blackwell's outfit into anything decent, and McCabe also has to shoulder alot of the blame for showing a complete inability to make the right appointments.

 

[Guesty]

From now on any thread started by Micalajio or Lenners, i just wont even bother opening.

That's ridiculous Mic! would you have started that thread if Evans had scored his chance?

It's very telling that he didn't take his chance though. That defence of ours is always like to gift someone a chance like yesterday. Our strikerforce is largely incapable of taking any similar chances that come our way. Ergo, we'll lose far more games than we'll win.

 

[DuncDisorderly]

Duncs comments of October for "Speed Out" was far too optimistic!

I usually am too optimistic, and so it turns out. 'Dancing in the streets' to 'deep depression' in one week. We've had a new first team coach do one or two sessions and 90 mins from the new manager. Get some perspective people, back-off and give the guy some room to work.

My comment is simply, same old shit from the same old suspects. You whine like little girls about everything around the club that fails to meet your ideal vision of what it should be, then when finally things are changed to what you have been asking for, you take a couple of deep breaths and start whining again about something else. Mic, you picked apart every word ever reported to have come from Blackwell and now you are doing the same to Speed. What happened to being positive and supporting the manager, or can't you help yourself?

(Thats a rhetorical question. Dont bother replying. I'm with MattBianco and won't be reading your nonsense anymore...)

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Should a rhetorical question have a question mark?

 

[happyhippy]

Should a rhetorical question have a question mark?

Yes, or it wouldn't be any form of a question at all. Your question wasn't really rhetorical though, was it?

 

[2ndtenorblade]

Yes, or it wouldn't be any form of a question at all. Your question wasn't really rhetorical though, was it?

Is that a rhetorical answer?

 

[Micalijo]

I usually am too optimistic, and so it turns out. 'Dancing in the streets' to 'deep depression' in one week. We've had a new first team coach do one or two sessions and 90 mins from the new manager. Get some perspective people, back-off and give the guy some room to work.

My comment is simply, same old shit from the same old suspects. You whine like little girls about everything around the club that fails to meet your ideal vision of what it should be, then when finally things are changed to what you have been asking for, you take a couple of deep breaths and start whining again about something else. Mic, you picked apart every word ever reported to have come from Blackwell and now you are doing the same to Speed. What happened to being positive and supporting the manager, or can't you help yourself?

(Thats a rhetorical question. Dont bother replying. I'm with MattBianco and won't be reading your nonsense anymore...)

Huge difference between Blackwell's endless lies, inconsistencies and contempt for fans and this innocent remark from Speedo. You've got it wrong Duncs, I feel desperately sorry for Speed dealing with the shit left by Blackwell - he has my total support. Please reconsider or is it too late? Swiss - could you pass this on please?

 

[Nick Jansky]

I usually am too optimistic, and so it turns out. 'Dancing in the streets' to 'deep depression' in one week. We've had a new first team coach do one or two sessions and 90 mins from the new manager. Get some perspective people, back-off and give the guy some room to work.

My comment is simply, same old shit from the same old suspects. You whine like little girls about everything around the club that fails to meet your ideal vision of what it should be, then when finally things are changed to what you have been asking for, you take a couple of deep breaths and start whining again about something else. Mic, you picked apart every word ever reported to have come from Blackwell and now you are doing the same to Speed. What happened to being positive and supporting the manager, or can't you help yourself?

(Thats a rhetorical question. Dont bother replying. I'm with MattBianco and won't be reading your nonsense anymore...)

You need to remember that our histrionic colleagues had the rug well & truly whipped out from under their feet after the QPR game when they had to choke on their bile when KB was sacked & Speed was appointed within the space of a couple of days. Those events denied them, temporarily, an absolute shitfest over the performance v QPR. But the respite was only temporary, and we were only ever a less than sparkling performance away from what we have seen from them this week, despite a new manager being in charge & needing some time to change things under straightened circumstances. I wanted Blackwell out, was delighted to see both Warnock & Bassett moved on, and played my part in actively removing the stain of Brealey from our club, so a clapper I have never been. I have certainly been more actively involved in attempting to shape the destiny of our club than any of these gobshite keyboard warriors, for better or worse. But the events of this week on this forum have been beyond belief. For the first time in my life I would have been ashamed to be a Blade if I thought that some of these tossers were in any way representative of our support. But of course, thankfully, they aren't.

I have asked the music hall act that is "lenners" before if he is prepared to take direct action & actually do something about changing the course of the club, but true to form, the coward dissembled, and came out with some bollocks about this being nothing more and nothing less than an internet forum. As we would have expected, he bottled it completely, and is content to remain nothing more & nothing less than a poster on an internet forum, where he can preach his poisonous shit to a handful of people, but actually remain in a position to change precisely nothing. A bit of a Don Quixote is our "len", he'll tilt at windmills until the cows come home, but lacks any substance, makes a lot of noise, and when the chips are down prefers to remain in his weird little comfort zone. A hard person to respect, as most bed wetters are, but easy to feel sorry for.

So, too all the shitters who are already circling around Speed & pissing & moaning about everything that a club which finds itself in reduced circumstances is doing to try & cope with those circumstances, I would say grow a pair, stop bitching about it like a bunch of little girls, get organised, and do something positive about it. Otherwise, shut the fuck up, you are extremely tedious.

UTB.

 

[lenners]

Nicko, what actually is it that you disagree with?
I'm not sure you actually read what I've written but instead are imagining what you think I've written.

 

[happyhippy]

Is that a rhetorical answer?

Is this a question?

 

[Nick Jansky]

Nicko, what actually is it that you disagree with?
I'm not sure you actually read what I've written but instead are imagining what you think I've written.

No, I've read it very carefully for years, and I think I have a very good handle on what you are about. As you very well know, I am happy to agree with you when you make considered points which aren't tainted with misdirected vitriol towards whichever poster you are responding to - patronising people is never edifying, even when you can lay your medals on the table, which I can, but you can't. Although I am probably guilty of it in your case, but none of us is perfect. You frustrate the fuck out of me, lenners. Your heart is clearly in the right place, but you waste it by doing what you have done on SUISA, Blades United, and now here.

Pack it in, and do something positive for the club. I know you think that you are "exposing truths". Much of what you say is intuitively known by all of us, some people choose to ignore it & try to focus on having some sort of hope for the future, as we Blades have been brought up doing, but the way you articulate what you are thinking does you no good - and by extension it does the club no good either. As I said above, it doesn't really matter, because you have a very small constituency on here. But if you feel that strongly about it, I can tell you from experience that it isn't too difficult, especially with the internet, to get a bunch of people together who feel strongly enough to organise, and interact with the club to the point that they have to start listening to you. This isn't the medium through which you can achieve that.

I lack the energy , time & vigour to do it these days, and one of the bad sides of the tinternet is that it stops people congregating & doing things. BIFA came about because of a letter in the Green 'un from Howard Holmes the week after relegation at Stamford Bridge, and a week later a dozen people got together in a pub & started changing things. These days people like you spout on here & piss people off, and do nothing to initiate change.

We are all Blades, but instead of criticising for the sake of it, try & do something about it, if you care enough.

Oh, and I am right about Bartley. He's a player.

 

[lenners]

I've actually been very gentle considering how bang on I was about the summer - but it really is only an internet forum, a place for banter, opinion and such like.
My criticism is not for the sake of it, just telling it like it is. A more accurate summation of our club is ultimately healthy for us all.
See it as a process of opening minds.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I've actually been very gentle considering how bang on I was about the summer - but it really is only an internet forum, a place for banter, opinion and such like.
My criticism is not for the sake of it, just telling it like it is. A more accurate summation of our club is ultimately healthy for us all.
See it as a process of opening minds.

And there you go again.........

 

[Micalijo]

No, I've read it very carefully for years, and I think I have a very good handle on what you are about. As you very well know, I am happy to agree with you when you make considered points which aren't tainted with misdirected vitriol towards whichever poster you are responding to - patronising people is never edifying, even when you can lay your medals on the table, which I can, but you can't. Although I am probably guilty of it in your case, but none of us is perfect. You frustrate the fuck out of me, lenners. Your heart is clearly in the right place, but you waste it by doing what you have done on SUISA, Blades United, and now here.

Pack it in, and do something positive for the club. I know you think that you are "exposing truths". Much of what you say is intuitively known by all of us, some people choose to ignore it & try to focus on having some sort of hope for the future, as we Blades have been brought up doing, but the way you articulate what you are thinking does you no good - and by extension it does the club no good either. As I said above, it doesn't really matter, because you have a very small constituency on here. But if you feel that strongly about it, I can tell you from experience that it isn't too difficult, especially with the internet, to get a bunch of people together who feel strongly enough to organise, and interact with the club to the point that they have to start listening to you. This isn't the medium through which you can achieve that.

I lack the energy , time & vigour to do it these days, and one of the bad sides of the tinternet is that it stops people congregating & doing things. BIFA came about because of a letter in the Green 'un from Howard Holmes the week after relegation at Stamford Bridge, and a week later a dozen people got together in a pub & started changing things. These days people like you spout on here & piss people off, and do nothing to initiate change.

We are all Blades, but instead of criticising for the sake of it, try & do something about it, if you care enough.

Oh, and I am right about Bartley. He's a player.

One sentence you say the internet makes it easy to get together, next sentence you say it stops people congregating. How can Len take this advice seriously?

You sound as confused as Blackwell did - although he didn't swear at people.

Dare I say it again, no-one I can see is blaming Speed for the efforts at Middlesboro, although there is a huge disappointment that the players could barely raise more than a whimper when trying to equalise. Very simple concept. People are fed up with watching total and utter garbage and have got better things to do and more important things to worry about than launching a campaign of some sort - again, very simple concept to understand.

 

[Ollessendro]

Dunc/Matt, can you please tell me what Mic did wrong or where he criticised Speed? Before yiou dismiss me as a 'fellow knocker, sunshine band member' of whatever then tell me where he criticised Speed. In fact Micalijo has added his backing to Speed and been generally pretty positive about the appointment of the new manager. He was merley disappointed after a shocking performance and (quite rightly IMO) hinted that we are in for a relegation scrap.

It is unfair criticism because you don't like his posts. Simple as. If it was a new poster you'd have ignored it or replied, but because it is a 'sunshine band' member then 'it's the same old shite, from the same old people'.

Perhaps, Dunc/Matt you think that Blackwell left a decent squad and hence we are not in any sort of trouble. The league table and performances suggest otherwise, but of course you guys know best. Don't worry, we still have time. It's early days and la de da. Same responses as I got to my tick tock thread. Chill out, back the board, back the team etc. Of course it is not time to panic just yet, but people should be realistic and face up to the fact that we are a poor team with little or no prospects of getting out nof this division. On top of that we are lacking in confidence and have an inexperienced manager. With some bad luck we could be involved in a relegation scrap.

 

[SwissBlade]

With some bad luck we could be involved in a relegation scrap.

And with some good luck we could be involved in a promotion fight

Half empty v half full

 

[Come from away]

Just goes to prove that Yorkshire lads like to moan about the 'gift horse', win the league and they will be the first to say we will get relegated from the Prem in one year, stay up and it'll be we will never get off the bottom. So for now, we're in a relegation battle with a useless squad who can't play football - so why not support the pigs - cause we're Blades fans - don't go to games though - just play on here - oh happy days!

 

[Ollessendro]

Just goes to prove that Yorkshire lads like to moan about the 'gift horse', win the league and they will be the first to say we will get relegated from the Prem in one year, stay up and it'll be we will never get off the bottom. So for now, we're in a relegation battle with a useless squad who can't play football - so why not support the pigs - cause we're Blades fans - don't go to games though - just play on here - oh happy days!

Don't be such a drama queen. I'm not going to be positive if I think the situation is shit at the moment. Our team is piss poor and lacking in confidence. What do you want Mic and I to say, 'oh we should stay up this year, whoopeee' or 'excelllent, 'we'll solidify ourselves in mid table with a bit of luck'. The fact is that there is not a lot to be happy or positive about at BDTBL at the moment, so why kid ourselves. On top of that we (the 'sunshine' band') are a buch of miserable fookers who will never be happy!?

 

[Come from away]

Don't be such a drama queen. I'm not going to be positive if I think the situation is shit at the moment. Our team is piss poor and lacking in confidence. What do you want Mic and I to say, 'oh we should stay up this year, whoopeee' or 'excelllent, 'we'll solidify ourselves in mid table with a bit of luck'. The fact is that there is not a lot to be happy or positive about at BDTBL at the moment, so why kid ourselves. On top of that we (the 'sunshine' band') are a buch of miserable fookers who will never be happy!?

See, you know who you are and you're happy. Me too. Love ya sweetie. How about you buy me a beer next time you visit Sheffield? UTB!

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Don't be such a drama queen. I'm not going to be positive if I think the situation is shit at the moment. Our team is piss poor and lacking in confidence. What do you want Mic and I to say, 'oh we should stay up this year, whoopeee' or 'excelllent, 'we'll solidify ourselves in mid table with a bit of luck'. The fact is that there is not a lot to be happy or positive about at BDTBL at the moment, so why kid ourselves. On top of that we (the 'sunshine' band') are a buch of miserable fookers who will never be happy!?

Having now sussed who the "sunshine band" are and who the "clappers" are....I have only one thing to say. Why bother?....

Im relatively new to the forum so I wont make assumptions about people but it is quite apparent which people just come on here for a moan and the ones who are genuinely interesting in discussing SUFC. Im not suggesting one is right and one is wrong but it does also seem clear that the regulars all know where everyone stands opinion-wise.

The bit I dont understand is why it causes so much friction if you dont like something someone is saying just ignore/dont acknowledge the post. I tend to find that in all walks of life, those that constantly moan either in text or in speech are just looking for a reaction so why give them the satisfaction if they irk you?

People are entitled to moan, slag off and generally be miserable about whatever they want. That sort of thing isnt for me....I find it depressing and I dont know how people can live like that but we're all different. If you're on here to be positive and enjoy talking about the Blades, do it with like minded people. If you're on here to be a miserable pessimist fair play to you, but as with the so called "clappers" they have a right to be cheerful if they want. Football is supposed to be enjoyed, its not supposed to punish you....

Even if you do support United

 

[Fiery Blade]

I'm happy that Speedo is now in charge Olly but he's got to start upsetting one or two players or else they'll drag him down to their level
Monty, Qunn, Taylor, and Kozluk are patently not good enough - THE JURY IS OUT ON Britton, Evans, Nosworthy, Boggy and Bartley
Yeates has got something to prove, Wards got to stay fit for more than two consecutive games and Morgan has got to stop dropping bollocks
Cresswell is a workhorse - then work Richard, you don't have the class to swan around the pitch
Willo and Donkey either get fit or retire!
Simmo is ok - not a lot to work with from my point of view!

 

[lenners]

Commenting on the reality of United's situation is hardly negative.

 

[Ollessendro]

See, you know who you are and you're happy. Me too. Love ya sweetie. How about you buy me a beer next time you visit Sheffield? UTB!

sure owd cock, i'd be happy to have a beer with you when i'm next in town. Why on earth should I buy you one though?

Having now sussed who the "sunshine band" are and who the "clappers" are....I have only one thing to say. Why bother?....

Im relatively new to the forum so I wont make assumptions about people but it is quite apparent which people just come on here for a moan and the ones who are genuinely interesting in discussing SUFC. Im not suggesting one is right and one is wrong but it does also seem clear that the regulars all know where everyone stands opinion-wise.

The bit I dont understand is why it causes so much friction if you dont like something someone is saying just ignore/dont acknowledge the post. I tend to find that in all walks of life, those that constantly moan either in text or in speech are just looking for a reaction so why give them the satisfaction if they irk you?

People are entitled to moan, slag off and generally be miserable about whatever they want. That sort of thing isnt for me....I find it depressing and I dont know how people can live like that but we're all different. If you're on here to be positive and enjoy talking about the Blades, do it with like minded people. If you're on here to be a miserable pessimist fair play to you, but as with the so called "clappers" they have a right to be cheerful if they want. Football is supposed to be enjoyed, its not supposed to punish you....

Even if you do support United

In total agreement SC. It's a forum for opinion, debating, banter etc. Surely people have realised to take 'certain posters' opinions with a pinch of salt. If you don't like it then ignore it. It's a bit like the class clown at school ..... if you encourage him by laughing he'll only do it more.

And with some good luck we could be involved in a promotion fight

Half empty v half full

fookin ell Swiss calm down. All that clapping has got you over excited!?

IMO it's more a case of 1/5 full. Still if you want to look at it that when the glass is a fifth full at the moment. Happy days.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Commenting on the reality of United's situation is hardly negative.

It is if it serves no purpose. In real terms, neither negativity or positivity on this forum will solve the club's problems because its down to the men at the top. But looking for the positives and suggesting ways of moving forward gives supporters hope and makes for interesting discussion....

Generally moaning about the state of things and making everything sound....probably even more dower than it actually is, just makes the everyone feel like shit including the person making the comments. Apart from that it doesnt open up interesting debate, its just called "dwelling" and dwelling on things never achieved anything.

Its just my opinion and Im very realistic about the club's problems, but I see little point in bleeting. As I said though I dont discourage those who do because freedom of speech should be allowed. My original point was simply that the happy people should keep to themselves and form interesting discussion without feeling the need to snap at those who want to wallow in misery. Those opinions dont bother me at all, I just skim past them....best way to be.

UTB :thumbup:

 

[SteelCity Blade]

In total agreement SC. It's a forum for opinion, debating, banter etc. Surely people have realised to take 'certain posters' opinions with a pinch of salt. If you don't like it then ignore it. It's a bit like the class clown at school ..... if you encourage him by laughing he'll only do it more.

Precisely. Anyone who is a Blade or has been for some time should also know by now that our supporters' glasses are always half empty. I dont agree with some of the misery I see written but I dont choose to criticise it either. If it brings up an interesting argument I will enter debate on it of course but I simply wont respond if I dont like it....it just makes it easier on yourself ....why argue with someone who has a completely opposite view, they'll never come over to your side of the fence (or very rarely)!

As in my response to lenners, the moaning and groaning "sunshine band" stuff isnt for me. But each to their own and people who have put money into the club can have their ten penneth. I prefer to look for the positive and find a way forward but thats just me

 

[FURPHY]

I first watched the Blades over 60 years ago so have had my share of disappointments due to favourite players being sold, lack of investment when we have had squads with potential and successive Boards putting financial prudence before ambition. The result is that I am not sure whether I am a knocker or a clapper. There are things that I do criticise strongly but overall feel that the running of the club is in good hands and at least financially we are in control but any hopes of success have been superceded by acceptance that I will never see a Blades side win a trophy in my lifetime.
I read the posts from the "knockers" (Len & co) and whilst I don't agree with much of what they say and find the content somewhat repetitive and obvious do believe that we do need constructive criticism from fans where it is relevant if we do not want Blades supporters to become complacent.
If the "knockers" had not become vocal and active protesting in the car park then Robson may have been kept at the club longer enabling him to cause even more damage to our club.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I first watched the Blades over 60 years ago so have had my share of disappointments due to favourite players being sold, lack of investment when we have had squads with potential and successive Boards putting financial prudence before ambition. The result is that I am not sure whether I am a knocker or a clapper. There are things that I do criticise strongly but overall feel that the running of the club is in good hands and at least financially we are in control but any hopes of success have been superceded by acceptance that I will never see a Blades side win a trophy in my lifetime.
I read the posts from the "knockers" (Len & co) and whilst I don't agree with much of what they say and find the content somewhat repetitive and obvious do believe that we do need constructive criticism from fans where it is relevant if we do not want Blades supporters to become complacent.
If the "knockers" had not become vocal and active protesting in the car park then Robson may have been kept at the club longer enabling him to cause even more damage to our club.

Absolutely right on every point, Furphy. As long as the criticism is constructive.

But doing it on an internet forum is pretty pointless. What is needed is a mass movement, as BIFA was in the 90s but ceased to be pretty well as soon as Brealey went, with a wide enough support that the club HAS to take notice. All this place does is allow people to vent spleen, and although you will get the odd comment of "the club probably reads this" the reality is that the knocking comments on here do exactly zero to bring about any positive change whatsoever.