Dean Smith asked by Sky

[georgebernardshaw]

I’m getting reyt steamed up about this - if the Hawk-Eye system had seven cameras on this, how many did VAR have, or are they the same ones? So if they’re using the same camera that gave this image, why wasn’t the referee told to award a goal?

 

[Tezza1889]

It's about time we got used to it mate.How many points has this tec cost us to date?Scrap the fu-king thing i say.Just like last time we were in the prem it stinks.I thought VAR and Goal Line tec would protect us from dodgy decisions I was wrong.

Me the same, it's just favouring the big clubs just like the bent refs of the 80s. Lads at var headquarters will be big time Charlie spurs, man utd, and arsenal armchair fans, and that's the problem... Bias..

Are we really saying the var team haven't seen the ball over the line? Really!! When everybody around the world saw it...

Stinks like shit, deliberate cheating from the Premier league. Its little old sheff utd... Fuck em

 

[GymClassHero]

Come on fellas, if we were in their position would we really that righteous to put the ball in out own net?

Villa are fighting for their lives and need points any which way. I'd hope we wouldn't deliberately jeopardise a point if we were in their shoes.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

I don't think they should have awarded us a goal in.fact it never even crossed my mind but it is funny watching smith squirm when asked the question
He can't really justify accepting a walk in for his team but not giving one back

I mean let's be fair there will never be more deserving circumstances than ours

Anyway they are going down so it doesn't really matter

 

[Blade82]

What a load of bollocks.

If they were 5-0 up they’d have let us walk one in.

If this was the last game of the season & they were already safe, the same.

They’re desperate for points to stay up so they were never going to give a goal away and he’d have gained more respect for saying just that.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Leeds did'nt let Villa score "unopposed",iirc Pontious tried to leg Adomah over on his way to scoring.Pontious was latter sold to Brentford.

Bielsa good man.

 

[gordoncharles]

In 2013 there was no VAR or Goal Line monitoring today there is thats why fans are upset about it.The fact that someone working the VAR is actually sat there watching it is the issue.If it is not going to be used to correct howlers like this why bother with it.The whole point of the game is to score goals if that is not allowed to happen why are we bothering?The fact that it could cost the club millions and also force another club to be relegated is of huge importance.I can see big trouble ahead if Villa keep up and send someone else down because of the point they have pinched .All because some one sat on their arse can not be bothered to inform the ref that he has missed a goal.If VAR is not used for such important issues as putting the score right why do we bother with it.Basic stuff which could bite the FA arse in a couple of months time.

This thread is about Dean Smith's reaction and what I consider the bizarre assumption that players should be honest about this, though they never are aboutanything else.

The utter fucking uselessness of VAR I have commented on many, many times before when the season actually had some meaning to it

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

Everybody getting steamed up about Dean Smith, goal line technology, VAR, ref, linesman, sporting integrity.

Nobody seems to be talking about the goalkeeper who CHEATED.

Problem is he didn’t do anything that 99 per cent wouldn’t have done. The trouble with today’s game, full of cheats, it’s accepted and nobody cares.

 

[What the Hecky]

The reason we are supposed to have the rules and things like VAR and GLT is to take away from the fact that when push comes to shove most people will do what is right for them and not what is morally right.

Everything that Dean Smith has said is 110% completely the opposite of how he reacted when the shoe was on the other foot with Leeds, you can't beg for integrity on one hand and then ignore it when it suits, but humanity is full of selfish hypocrites so what do we expect, long gone are the days of the gentleman who would be honest

 

[Demon Blade]

They won’t have been briefed on it because nobody expected it to happen. If they’d delayed the match for five minutes and then realised it wasn’t quite over the line they’d have been hammered by all and sundry for fucking around.

I don’t like ‘defending’ officials or VAR but it’s a lot easier with hindsight. When I saw it I assumed initially it hadn’t quite crossed the line. It was only after several replays and eventually an angle that showed it had that I realised we’d been had over. I’m still pissed off but I can see how it happened.

Think you've hit the nail on the head with this BB but not sure the VAR officials would care if they got stick for stopping the game, they don't seem to give a shit when they are lampooned for delaying a game over ten minutes to give a nano mm offside against a team playing the likes of Tottenham and Liverpool.

 

[wavy-blade]

We`ve been bummed good style AGAIN , if it had been Man Utd, Liverpool , Spurs ( can you imagine Mourinho`s reaction ) it would have been a completely different outcome. The incompetence of the whole situation astounds me .
The one thing we should have done though at the moment of the incident , the players should have kicked off more and insisted the referee stopped the game and contacted VAR to look closer at the time of the incident .

 

[grafikhaus]

I'd agree that you can't compare the Leeds/Villa incident with us v Villa the other night. I watched the Leeds/Villa game on TV and remember thinking 'If Wilder had done what Bielsa did (i.e. allowed Villa to walk a goal in) I'd be furious.' There was more at stake for both Leeds and Villa last season than the other night (for us, at least), grey areas etc. etc.

At Villa, it's the most black-and-white incident you'll ever see in football. Far worse than 'Super Franks' disallowed goal in the WC which - as far as I can remember - was only shown on one camera from one angle.

The goal at Villa was the equivalent of the Brinks Mat robbery where several cameras 'failed' to spot what was going on. Let's not mince words, it's a fiddle. Have palms been greased? Backhanders exchanged? Until the 'authorities' come up with a better excuse, that's the only possible explanation. We all know the amounts of PL money at stake and we all know that the refs. who slither to the top of the greasy pole are usually involved in the most, er, controversial (i.e. bent) decisions.

Obviously, we don't expect professional fence-sitters like Lineker, Shearer etc. to tell the truth so I'll stick with my version. It was a stitch-up/crime/bent. They simply don't want the likes of The Blades in their self-aggrandising, back-slapping Premier League. And it's an ideal time to scrap VAR before next season starts. But they won't because it fulfils the role it was brought in for - it lets the refs and linos off the hook and introduces the kind of grey areas and doubt that 'justifies' it.

 

[CentralQuay]

Me the same, it's just favouring the big clubs just like the bent refs of the 80s. Lads at var headquarters will be big time Charlie spurs, man utd, and arsenal armchair fans, and that's the problem... Bias..

Are we really saying the var team haven't seen the ball over the line? Really!! When everybody around the world saw it...

Stinks like shit, deliberate cheating from the Premier league. Its little old sheff utd... Fuck em

How do you explain last night then?

VAR took away a penalty from Manchester United, a beneficial decision for "Little old Sheff Utd".

 

[Punk Blade]

On the idea of surrounding the ref and trying to force a VAR review, if we’d done that and Villa had gone straight down the pitch mostly unopposed and scored, as VAR would then have to check the Villa goal would they have told the ref he couldn’t award a goal to Villa because there was a goal at the other end 10 seconds earlier?

 

[1889]

You can’t expect Villa players to say ‘Actually ref it was well over the line’ but I thought we let Michael Oliver off very lightly, if ever there was a case for crowding round the ref and insisting he reviews it with VAR that was it.
They’d have had to drag me off him if he refused to look.
I know it’s not Wilder’s way but Jesus Christ!

 

[KiwiBlabe]

Would we be happy if it was the other way round and we let villa score?
I would love to think that we would be that spotsmanlike, but remember how happy we were after the bullshit decision for the wet sham equaliser?

Karma, let's get on with it.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

Would we be happy if it was the other way round and we let villa score?
I would love to think that we would be that spotsmanlike, but remember how happy we were after the bullshit decision for the wet sham equaliser?

Karma, let's get on with it.

What on earth are you talking about ?

 

[KiwiBlabe]

What on earth are you talking about ?

If we let villa score if we had been the beneficiary of the decision would you be happy?

We took the good when west ham thought they had equalized, another bullshit decision, now let's get on with it.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

If we let villa score if we had been the beneficiary of the decision would you be happy?

We took the good when west ham thought they had equalized, another bullshit decision, now let's get on with it.

How was the west ham decision bullshit ?

 

[Niceguyeddie]

How was the west ham decision bullshit ?

And do you know.youve spelt blade wrong in your username ?
So you're either a thick pig or a thick blabe who has opinions aligned with those of a pig

 

[KiwiBlabe]

You taking the piss? Spelt blase wrong?

West Ham decision was bullshit, I loved it, but it was bullshit.

Go goad someone else, not interested

 

[bladesince64]

How do you explain last night then?

VAR took away a penalty from Manchester United, a beneficial decision for "Little old Sheff Utd".

Nothing was taken away as it wasnt a penalty - as VAR confirmed - which should have been utilised for our goal against Villa

 

[CentralQuay]

Nothing was taken away as it wasnt a penalty - as VAR confirmed - which should have been utilised for our goal against Villa

No, the penalty was given, VAR did take it away.....Whether you believe it was a penalty or not is irrelevant.
Don't act like the technology only favors the big clubs, when without it, Man United would likely have gained 2 more points last night.

If the whole system was 'corrupt' and 'favored big clubs', VAR would not have overturned the penalty.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

You taking the piss? Spelt blase wrong?

West Ham decision was bullshit, I loved it, but it was bullshit.

Go goad someone else, not interested

The west ham decision was spot on ,was hand ball
By the way you've spelt blade wrong again

 

[1889]

The west ham decision was spot on ,was hand ball
By the way you've spelt blade wrong again

In their defence, the B is next to the D on a keyboard..............oh actually hang on.

 

[8lade]

No, the penalty was given, VAR did take it away.....Whether you believe it was a penalty or not is irrelevant.
Don't act like the technology only favors the big clubs, when without it, Man United would likely have gained 2 more points last night.

If the whole system was 'corrupt' and 'favored big clubs', VAR would not have overturned the penalty.

They'd already given a penalty which wasn't, after the screw up in our game to give a penalty for a dive which was worthy of a red it was that pathetic would've had the EPL going back to vote to void the season.

 

[1889]

I actually agree with him that they’re not comparable. There was nothing against the laws of the game in the Leeds incident, however underhanded it was. We, however, had a perfectly legal goal not awarded. We were far more entitled to get a freebie than they were.

The Leeds goal was scored as the result of unsportsmanlike like behaviour, whereas Nyland knowingly carrying the ball over the line Into his goal and quickly trying to manoeuvre himself to get it back to the right side of the line, was a breakdown of technology.

Totally different

 

[Bobby b]

I saw a stat on sky today saying that grealish is the most fouled player in the premier league, take that stat in and then ask yourself why would I expect any level of honesty and sportsmanship from anyone at villa

 

[petcharlie]

Come on fellas, if we were in their position would we really that righteous to put the ball in out own net?

Villa are fighting for their lives and need points any which way. I'd hope we wouldn't deliberately jeopardise a point if we were in their shoes.

You do not seem to get the point,yes we might have done the same ,who knows but we would not expect to get away with it with goal line tec and VAR plus all the tele cameras.That is the issue how did they manage to get away with it?That is what fans are hot under the collar about which makes some think it smells.

 

[VictoryBlade]

VAR taking a penalty away from Manure? What? Neither of them were penalties! But the ref had to let them score!! Corruption i'd say!