Crowd sounds or stadium sounds

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What did you choose or prefer? The sky version of background noise wasn't as good as some of the German games I have watched. Was more like white noise for long periods. Switched to the direct sound and that made it feel like a total non event.

I didn't bother with the man city arsenal game.
 



What did you choose or prefer? The sky version of background noise wasn't as good as some of the German games I have watched. Was more like white noise for long periods. Switched to the direct sound and that made it feel like a total non event.

I didn't bother with the man city arsenal game.
Ditto
 
Started with ‘live’ sound and was going to switch to the piped in crowd for the second half for a comparison.
Was so pissed off at half time I left it on the actual sound for the whole game.
Put on the crowd for the main feature event of the evening and it certainly sounded more normal but didn’t watch it for long so didn’t hear how it sounded when anything important happened.
 
Used the free pass and tried Radio Sheffield commentary.
The video was lagging some minutes behind the radio commentary so put up with the false noise.
 
They should have a channel for a mic'd up ref, like you can hear in the Rugby.

'Whats the time - no idea my watch aint working'
'Computer says no'
'More than me job's worth to use my own eyes'
'Check VAR you say? Nah can't be arsed'
 
The fake noise for the City v Arsenal game sounded pretty good.
What I’d really like though is a bloke sat with a full ‘crowd noise synthesiser’ programmed with the sounds a crowd really makes.....
Imagine a non-existent crowd last night chanting “fuck VAR”, “you don’t know what you’re doing” or “the referee’s a wanker”.
Plus, imagine a keeper getting the “ooooooooooh you’re shit aaaaah” treatment in an empty stadium.
 
I thought the fake noise would annoy me, but what I was most shocked by was the really poor commentary. It took the removal of the crowd, to realise how bad it’s got.
You watch the game on TV, and it’s actually the pundits that are background noise, with the occasional “ROONEY! Oh, my word, that was a great shot! That was inches wide!” Which then returns to dull musings and unrelated stats.
I never realised how poor and uninformative it all is. I managed to sync RADIO 5 Live to Sky, but that was even worse! I was expecting a pass by pass account, to present the game to the listener, but even when Villa or the Blades were mounting a break, the guys on the Radio were just chatting away.
It’s a shame you can’t stream RADIO SHEFFIELD, and sync that up - it sure does make you see how great the commentary is.
So it’s the crowd, it’s not background noise, it’s the measure and indicator of what’s happening in the game, Watching on TV without it, it’s clear how difficult it is to just watch a game with such concentration - of 22 men kicking a ball - in fact it’s impossible, and your mind starts to wander, about getting a beer, making a sandwich, fixing the sink tomorrow, and SUDDENLY! BOOM! It’s the crowd that snaps you out of your daydream and draws you back in - a rise in volume for an attack, booing for a foul, a cry of “Handball!” It’s the crowd. It drowns out the boring commentators, or makes them stop talking about the amount of rainfall. I really missed it last night and the commentary team needs to sit down and discuss how they should change their tactic and make it more old school - actually describing every detail that’s happening.
I also think they need to have less ‘wide angle’ stand camera mounted shots - there’s just too much information to process. It would be better to have closer, follow the ball passages (Like Escape to Victory!) Which is what a spectator does in the ground, it would really focus the viewer on the action.
Last night when the game kicked off, the commentary was terrible, they are actually playing the game, and he’s pontificating and chit chatting, not even taking an interest in what’s going on play wise, just utter drivel.
My favourite one (to paraphrase)
”It was only 12 months ago that Aston Villa were in Minnesota, on a tour of the US, yes, who would have thought back then the significance of what is now, or even predicted that we would now be where we are, with all that’s happened. And that’s gone out for a corner.”
 
I listened with the noise and although it was rubbish it did make me half forget there was no crowd. We must have been rubbish first half though as the only chant was Villa,Villa, Villa. Second half a couple of United chants. Oohs were rubbish. How many times did I say 'That's not an ooh?' Mind you I shout that a lot towards the away end when I'm at games :)
 
They should have a channel for a mic'd up ref, like you can hear in the Rugby.

'Whats the time - no idea my watch aint working'
'Computer says no'
'More than me job's worth to use my own eyes'
'Check VAR you say? Nah can't be arsed'

You forgot
"Buzzer what buzzer ? Oh are my cakes done in the oven?"
 



A special recording of 'You're not fit to wear the shirt' has been commissioned for first behind-closed-doors game at the Theatre of Rust.
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I watched our game with fake noise and it was shite. Sky's fake noise is Happy Shopper compared to the good Bundesliga fake noise. There seems to be 2 varieties, and since the Bundesliga is also broadcast by Sky in Germany, I'm guessing the less good version is Sky's and the good one is DAZN.

Anyway, I watched Spurs Man U without tonight and it's miles better.

When I was watching us, I felt strangely disconnected, the fake noise takes you out of it. I'd rather hear real nothing than fake something.
 
The crowd noise at the City game was actually from a City game so it actually felt much better than from our game (which sounded like Fifa/Pro Evo), which just made me want to go to sleep.
 
I’ll reserve judgement until our first home game. Maybe a few fake renditions of “ we are blades” will warm me to it, we will see
 
I still think we should all be able to use our xbox headsets to cheer on from the comfort of our sofa.

Have our voices pumped around the stadium.
 
Don't know if I got more used to it or sky got better at it but seemed better last night
 
For other matches, I’m ok with the crowd noise.

For our games, though, I think that we’re too attuned to the little nuances of our own crowd. For example, you’ll always hear a little buzz or increase in excitement as soon as Basham or JOC set off for an overlap - even before the ball gets there. Obviously Sky can’t do it to that level of detail, but to my ears, it just doesn’t quite sound like an SUFC game and it stands out too much.

As I say, for other matches, I don’t particularly notice that, and prefer the background hum to the sound of an echoey stadium.
 
Interesting to see what Leeds next home game sounds like with orchestrated actual Leeds chants from previous games.
 

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