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Is he having a laugh, would much rather a season in Europe and finish 17th next season than finish mid-table every season like Palace, and I'm sure their fans would say the same.
 




Is he having a laugh, would much rather a season in Europe and finish 17th next season than finish mid-table every season like Palace, and I'm sure their fans would say the same.

I don't mind Simon Jordan, even if I disagree with him I respect the way he makes his point.

I'm on the fence, finishing this season in a group round place rather than having to trudge through qualifiers would be a dream come true, and don't think it would have too much of an impact. I'll never turn my nose up to watching dem blades take over Europe, but, I'd be concerned if we are heading into early rounds.
 

Is he having a laugh, would much rather a season in Europe and finish 17th next season than finish mid-table every season like Palace, and I'm sure their fans would say the same.
I can sort of see where he's coming from, it took Burnley until Christmas to get over their early exit from last season's Europa League. The aim should be Champion's League though: fewer ridiculous trips on a Thursday night; loads more money.
 
In fairness to the bloke he is probably meaning it with the best intentions, and it will push our not massively deep squad.
But we've come to the party to join in, not stand outside, so let's just see where we can get.

Yep. Considering our threadbare squad and how piss poor our back up xi appears to be when it gets rolled out, I'd worry about what playing more games would do to those in the starting xi.

But then again, fuck it. Better to burn out than to fade away. Would rather make the most of our time in the sun and roll the dice as opposed to the tedium of 17th place finishes!!
 
Due to the COVID-19 over the next 12 months, it might be the easiest, shortest Europa League route to the final ever, in regards to qualification/knockout stages, ’league games’ and home/away matches. We definitely need to get into it this season.

Instead of the long-drawn out qualification, it could be more group leagues then straight to knockout.
 
I would expect our transfer dealings to be slightly different if we are playing in Europe.
I don’t know if the nominated squad is larger or smaller in Europe than in the PL
 
I think if you read beyond the headline, he kind of has a point. A Thursday night schlep to Azerbaijan before a weekend game doesnt have many upsides.

Having said that, still a great position to be in and rather that than worrying about relegation
 
Simon Jordan needs to concentrate on his own club.

Yes, he does talk a good talk and of course he can have opinions - but Sheff Utd is now like no other club - CW and his backroom staff are doing it differently and it looks like we're ruffling a few feathers along the way now we've joined the big boys in the Premier League.

We are growing organically - albeit, very quickly and whilst we need to watch out for pitfalls that no doubt will come, there's no reason to suggest we can't do similar to Wolves have done. We'll have to do it differently to Wolves, but who's to question that CW & AK are NOT the new Clough and Taylor who took another provincial team on to great heights. Forests achievements can't be replicated now as the European Cup has since morphed into the closed shop that the CL now is with leagues - but what we can do as Leicester and now Wolves have shown, is that it can be done differently no matter what others may think and do.

We're OK on our own Jordan - appreciate the concern but we're going to do it our way.

Now get back in your box, look after Palace and get your new stand built....................oh dear - what new stand!

UTB
 
Yep. Considering our threadbare squad and how piss poor our back up xi appears to be when it gets rolled out, I'd worry about what playing more games would do to those in the starting xi.

But then again, fuck it. Better to burn out than to fade away. Would rather make the most of our time in the sun and roll the dice as opposed to the tedium of 17th place finishes!!
We can always edit our posts if we get relegated though! ;)
 
I think if you read beyond the headline, he kind of has a point. A Thursday night schlep to Azerbaijan before a weekend game doesnt have many upsides.

Having said that, still a great position to be in and rather that than worrying about relegation
The coach back is going to be a pisser. Picking up PeroniKov in Turkmenistan.
 
I think if you read beyond the headline, he kind of has a point. A Thursday night schlep to Azerbaijan before a weekend game doesnt have many upsides.

Having said that, still a great position to be in and rather that than worrying about relegation

But get through that and a Thursday visit from Inter Milan sounds pretty sweet!!
 
Champions League football will buy us a shit hot 2nd XI.

Think Henderson/Bayindir, Emmanuel Dennis, Odsonne Edouard, etc... If we can offer CL and PL football we will be a very attractive proposition compared to Arsenal and Spurs next season.
 



Well first of all we have to achieve European football, so excessive worrying about our future seems a distinct case of worrying about other club's whilst those concerns would be better applied to his own team. I quite like Jordan, but on this he's as wrong as wrong can be. Wilder is someone who needs very little help, he's surrounded by football savvy staff who'll advise and contribute as best they can, but I suspect that the chance to play against European competition will be too tempting should it arrive.

As I say, let's get there first before we begin the over-excitement. Should it happen, brilliant! But if not, well we'll do as we've done under our superb management and try again.
 
I think if you read beyond the headline, he kind of has a point. A Thursday night schlep to Azerbaijan before a weekend game doesnt have many upsides.

Having said that, still a great position to be in and rather that than worrying about relegation
I agree entirely it probably would harm us progressing any further up the league (although Wolves have done alright this season). I just think clubs such as us and Palace shouldn't look at European football as a distraction from the league.

Look at Stoke now, when their fans look back on their 10 years in the premier league I bet they can hardly separate one season from the next, but they'll all remember the season they went away to Valencia and Besiktas.
 
Simon Jordan needs to concentrate on his own club.

Yes, he does talk a good talk and of course he can have opinions - but Sheff Utd is now like no other club - CW and his backroom staff are doing it differently and it looks like we're ruffling a few feathers along the way now we've joined the big boys in the Premier League.

We are growing organically - albeit, very quickly and whilst we need to watch out for pitfalls that no doubt will come, there's no reason to suggest we can't do similar to Wolves have done. We'll have to do it differently to Wolves, but who's to question that CW & AK are NOT the new Clough and Taylor who took another provincial team on to great heights. Forests achievements can't be replicated now as the European Cup has since morphed into the closed shop that the CL now is with leagues - but what we can do as Leicester and now Wolves have shown, is that it can be done differently no matter what others may think and do.

We're OK on our own Jordan - appreciate the concern but we're going to do it our way.

Now get back in your box, look after Palace and get your new stand built....................oh dear - what new stand!

UTB


Which part of ex crystal Palace chairman did you not understand 😉
 
I agree entirely it probably would harm us progressing any further up the league (although Wolves have done alright this season). I just think clubs such as us and Palace shouldn't look at European football as a distraction from the league.

Look at Stoke now, when their fans look back on their 10 years in the premier league I bet they can hardly separate one season from the next, but they'll all remember the season they went away to Valencia and Besiktas.

Not that I wouldn't enjoy it if we got there, in a way I cant believe that we're even having the conversation about European football when I think about years gone by.

Just that over time, I'd say the financial gap between Champions League and Europa League football has grown. For either comp we would need a bigger squad with deeper quality. Affordable in the champs league? Possibly, but in the Europa league I'm not so sure.
 
You know I say the same when I see teams do it, history has shown it happens more often than not, but this is different with Wilder.

I imagine that we will have our priorities set out, we have a squad used to playing regular games already, I imagine if, and I say if we make Europe that we would put priority on survival in the Prem and Europe whilst forgetting about the FA and league cups with the second string.

Just seems like the right thing to do, I'd be happy with us not putting too much into the usual cup competitions for a season whilst we find our feet.
 
It's possible to over complicate things, surely sport, especially professional sport is all about being as successful as possible. Seeing as qualifying for Europe can be classed as a marker for success, let's take it with both hands and see how it goes. Knowing CW he'd fancy winning it. Plus it would shut the delusional up about their great adventure into Europe (nearly 30 years ago now), well Luxembourg and Germany. You go further now on a half decent stag do!!!
 
In fairness to the bloke he is probably meaning it with the best intentions, and it will push our not massively deep squad.
But we've come to the party to join in, not stand outside, so let's just see where we can get.
Absolutely. The only way to find out if you are good enough is to experience it. Success or not it brings growth and adds knowledge.
We allegedly didn't have the "Resources " to cope with the Premier League. Wilder and Knill are out of the box thinkers and what happened with Burnley is irrelevant imho.
Two steps forward, one step back. ;)
 
Looking forrad to all those typical mesmerising and euphoric European nights under the Bramall Lane floodlights, now. 😁👍🏻
 
I'll take any European football ta. Imagine what It'd feel like to be in a European competition for the first time in our history, and I wouldn't give a shit who we got first up, whether its Roma or Rotor Volgograd, don't care.
Its just being in it and also knowing those S6 twats are a million light years away from doing what we're doing.
And having to watch us do it. God, that's a delicious thought!
And apparently if Man Citys ban is upheld, 8th place gets you Europe.
Eighth...
We've fucking got this!
 
Obviously being in Europe will impact on our league form. It always does. However, we could not be in Europe and it could all go wrong anyway. I'd rather see us play in Europe as it might be my only chance of ever seeing it.
 



More than reasonable comments from a neutral.

Not sure why anyone would bristle.
 

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