BladesPod: 2006/07 Revisited - Masochist Edition

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Afternoon all,

Not totally sure what led us down this road, but Roygbiv and I decided to return to a season that I have never previously gone back to: 2006/07, and our ill-fated Premiership season under Neil Warnock.

I imagine plenty of people would gladly never think about this season again, but if you fancy reliving some highs, more than a few lows, and trying to work out what the hell went wrong with that season (answer: lots of things), then I hope this will serve as a definitive, comprehensive account of a year that contrasts so sharply with everything we've seen under Wilder's United. Carlos Tevez, Paddy Kenny's eyebrows, David Unsworth, third party ownership, Rob Hulse's leg, the Coca-Cola Kid, Gillespie's 15-second red card, Squinn, Mike Riley, Rob Styles and Jon Stead scoring in the sunshine. In a bizarre way - and a few people have said this to me - this would've been one of my favourite seasons following United, if not for what happened right at the end. And it's also slightly amazing that a - with respect - very limited Blades squad still managed 38 points and were one goal from survival.

Anyway enough rambling from me, there's enough of that here. Thanks for indulging us, hope you get a modicum of catharsis out of it (I did).



Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/bladespod/id1309198119?mt=2

Spotify:
 

Really enjoyed all of this. Very cathartic, cheers to both you & Roygbiv to pouring over it.

A few things that occurred while listening, and one I think big point I wanted to make:
  • We didn’t actually bring Kidd in till the beginning of September (ie after pre-season and the season’s start), and for me it remains a completely bizarre arrival. Warnock has never really ever veered away at any point of his career from having a coaching staff of either players he managed previously, staff he inherited, or more often simply staff he’d worked with for years. Had he brought him in during pre-season it would have still looked extremely odd. To do it after all the pre-season coaching had been done, bizarre. There was a strong suspicion that it was a boardroom decision to install him. The fact he had strong ties to Warnock’s successor was I’m sure completely coincidental...
  • I’m pretty sure Shipperley was still with us that season till January (I think he was given an extra year’s contract which was a bit surprising as most expected him to be released) but was either injured or just out of the squad
  • Was the issue with Li Tie that we just couldn’t get him fit? Like both of you I thought he’d shown some promise, but just seem to remember he came with a bunch of injuries.
  • Hulse – I remember the news of his signing coming through while I was watching us in a friendly away at Greenock Morton. I seem to recall there was a lot of disappointment with this – not an amazing scoring record, or injury record, and a lot felt we’d overpaid. I think those doubts about him remained till everyone saw him against Liverpool.
  • Geary on the wing against Man United? I’m pretty sure that didn’t happen – he was left-back, Kozzie on the right. It’s from left-back that Geary cuts onto his right and delivered that ball to Gillespie. No idea if he was on the wing at Blackburn, but I’ve personally never seen Geary on the wing
  • I guess it’s debatable as to how much Warnock’s public comments on saying Preston’s asking price was too much were a reflection of how much money he was given to spend. Similar to the previous year with Jerome & Cardiff. Contrast with our approach to the McBurnie purchase in the summer. The impression I got as that window closed was that Warnock had done what he could to get a better quality of player in, but fees and wages weren’t enough so we instead bought either what we could for that season or future seasons.
  • One more goal but no more points would have seen us relegated on goals scored. We were one goal worse than Wigan on GD, but had 5 fewer goals. The ‘just one goal needed to stay up’ thing isn’t therefore quite right, and realising this a year or two after the season makes me feel not quite as bad about the Shelton non-pen or the Villa 3-0 rather than 2-0. Obviously one goal would have been enough vs Wigan because it would have changed the points, or similarly in any other game where one goal would have changed the points, but losing a 3-0 game elsewhere 2-0 wouldn’t have been enough to keep us up. Had we got 2-0 vs Villa, a 1-goal win would still have been enough for Wigan.
  • Warnock I guess neither really resigned nor was sacked. His contract simply expired. I think previously I thought he’d have been the best to get us back up, but I agree with Roy the Cardiff experience this season suggests that probably wouldn’t have been particularly likely.
As a coda on Robson’s association with United, in 2011 he was involved in the C4 Dispatches programme where he brokered a meeting between the Fake Sheikh and representatives of McCabe...
 
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Another great listen guys, thanks.

I thought Gillespie was a massive player for us in the early stages of that season. He'd largely been kept out of the promotion side by Ifill, but he really came into his own in the Premiership season and was one of our standout performers. At the start of that season he was one of the few players who actually looked comfortable in possession, willing to show for the ball and brave enough to try and make things happen. I remember most of our other players being quite conservative in their play and more worried about making mistakes.

Given the benefit of hindsight and the experience of this season under Wilder, I don't think that season has aged particularly well. It always felt like a bit of a novelty season to me - as though we never really 'belonged' and were tourists or unwanted guests at someone else's party. This was exacerbated by Warnock's attitude and the amount of respect he afforded to the opposition. This definitely filtered down to the players and fans. It wasn't helped by the poor squad and generally poor quality of football we played. Under Wilder, I genuinely feel like we deserve our place in the Premier League and play some of the most attractive football in the division when we're on form. Under Warnock it always felt like we were the underdogs on the hunt for scalps.

It's absolutely criminal that we didn't bounce straight back up with the squad that was assembled for Robson - we wouldn't have been relegated if we'd had those players the season before under Warnock.

(Oh, and the away shirt was crap that season - the most 'un-united' shirt I think I've ever seen us in. Was it a tribute to Notts County or something?? Wasn't even that different to the home shirt and neck was too big...rubbish!)
 
Given the benefit of hindsight and the experience of this season under Wilder, I don't think that season has aged particularly well. It always felt like a bit of a novelty season to me - as though we never really 'belonged' and were tourists or unwanted guests at someone else's party. This was exacerbated by Warnock's attitude and the amount of respect he afforded to the opposition. This definitely filtered down to the players and fans. It wasn't helped by the poor squad and generally poor quality of football we played. Under Wilder, I genuinely feel like we deserve our place in the Premier League and play some of the most attractive football in the division when we're on form. Under Warnock it always felt like we were the underdogs on the hunt for scalps.

While I definitely agree that the experience of this season is worlds apart from 06/07, I do think it’s a bit harsh on Warnock and that team to directly compare the two – football has changed a lot in that time. The promotions of both teams came in different circumstances too. Wilder’s teams have improved year on year, and you felt last season we were a good bet to challenge for the top 6. Warnock’s promotion year reversed what had been a two-season slide, with that promotion basically surprising most of us – I don’t think anyone went into it seriously thinking we were likely to finish top 6. Similarly the style and personnel between the two teams were vastly different.

And last but not least, the ownership was different. We know that had McCabe been solely in control last summer as he was in 06, we’d have probably not signed Mousset or McBurnie, and almost guaranteed wouldn’t have signed Berge in January. Of course Warnock might have wasted money had he had more that preseason. But given the margins of how close we were to staying up, creaking open the McCabe purse just a minor amount more could have made all the difference.

38 points for that team surpassed expectations given I’d had a summer of hearing how it was going to potentially beat Derby for the lowest on record.
 
I think you're probably right - it's harsh to compare any team to Wilder's because the current team is such an outlier - an exceptional achievement for any team by any standard.
I think most would agree that our squad in '06 was weak by Premiership standards and we were widely tipped for relegation, so to get to 38pts and be safe in most other seasons is an achievement in itself.
However, it's the nagging feeling that maybe we could have gone one better with a different approach that I find frustrating. Throwing in the towel before playing the bigger teams with weakened team selections and conservative tactics doesn't help the case for Warnock. Pair this with his attitude of being happy just to be there and picking fights/accusations of bias/conspiracy claims and you can't help but wonder what might have been. Who knows, maybe we'd have fared worse if we'd 'gone for it' more. Ultimately, we only went down because another team cheated so it does seem harsh to criticise Warnock too much (especially given the poor resources at our disposal).
McCabe's certainly not blameless - the decision to open the wallet the summer after relegation is very odd given his reluctance to spend the January before when we could have consolidated a reasonable position.
I guess we'll never know the full story behind that season and it's one that left us fans with a fistful of bitter pills that tainted what could have been a great underdog story.
 
I think you're probably right - it's harsh to compare any team to Wilder's because the current team is such an outlier - an exceptional achievement for any team by any standard.
I think most would agree that our squad in '06 was weak by Premiership standards and we were widely tipped for relegation, so to get to 38pts and be safe in most other seasons is an achievement in itself.
However, it's the nagging feeling that maybe we could have gone one better with a different approach that I find frustrating. Throwing in the towel before playing the bigger teams with weakened team selections and conservative tactics doesn't help the case for Warnock. Pair this with his attitude of being happy just to be there and picking fights/accusations of bias/conspiracy claims and you can't help but wonder what might have been. Who knows, maybe we'd have fared worse if we'd 'gone for it' more. Ultimately, we only went down because another team cheated so it does seem harsh to criticise Warnock too much (especially given the poor resources at our disposal).
McCabe's certainly not blameless - the decision to open the wallet the summer after relegation is very odd given his reluctance to spend the January before when we could have consolidated a reasonable position.
I guess we'll never know the full story behind that season and it's one that left us fans with a fistful of bitter pills that tainted what could have been a great underdog story.

I don't think McCabe trusted Warnock with money, which is understandable following the Akinbiyi and Horsefield signings at almost £3m, and thought Robson would attract a better calibre of player. He did but obviously couldn't manage them
 
Knowing what we know now about how McCabe operates he was probably always planning to let Warnock's contract down ,replace him with a Robson type and open the purse strings whether we were relegated or not and that's why he gave him the bare minimum budget .he knew a high profile manager would want cash and he didn't want Warnock blowing it on players whobmight keep us up
 
Knowing what we know now about how McCabe operates he was probably always planning to let Warnock's contract down ,replace him with a Robson type and open the purse strings whether we were relegated or not and that's why he gave him the bare minimum budget .he knew a high profile manager would want cash and he didn't want Warnock blowing it on players whobmight keep us up

I hadn’t realised that Robson’s book written before he took the United job had a dedication to Turry, such was their close relationship, which Roy mentions near the end of the pod. At the time we were promoted, he was of course still employed at West Brom till his sacking in September 2006. In fact that is suspiciously close to the time that Brian Kidd suddenly arrived out of nowhere to take his coaching role.

You have to wonder whether the minute Robson became available (unexpectedly probably from Turry & McCabe’s view, who would never have predicted Robson’s implosion at yet another job), the decision to bring him in was effectively set. Instruction to Robson: don’t take another job, wait till next summer, and get the United job when Warnock’s contract expired.
 
Going to stick this on now. It should be a good way to get me through work, on a Monday, during lock-down, right?
 
Going to stick this on now. It should be a good way to get me through work, on a Monday, during lock-down, right?

If you stick it on at half speed too it’ll cover an 8-hour day with an hour for lunch. With the added bonus that the hosts sound as though they’ve had ten pints in the hour before recording.
 
  • The fact that [Kidd] had strong ties to Warnock’s successor was I’m sure completely coincidental...
Yes, it is very very hard to avoid jumping to that conclusion...

  • I’m pretty sure Shipperley was still with us that season till January (I think he was given an extra year’s contract which was a bit surprising as most expected him to be released) but was either injured or just out of the squad

Yeah I should have been clearer with this - what I meant was that he (and the others I mentioned) were already in the process of being phased out. Ships didn't make an appearance, Kabba played 115 minutes, Akinbiyi 184, Ifill 169... On the surface I think that's defensible but usually when you phase out a player or four it's because you have upgrades coming into the team...

  • Geary on the wing against Man United? I’m pretty sure that didn’t happen – he was left-back, Kozzie on the right. It’s from left-back that Geary cuts onto his right and delivered that ball to Gillespie. No idea if he was on the wing at Blackburn, but I’ve personally never seen Geary on the wing

Maybe it was at Blackburn, unless you can wrangle a more logical deployment of the team than this... this was the starting lineup (not necessarily the positions they played, just how Transfermarkt has classed each player eg Hulse would always be listed as forward even if he'd played central defence for this game):

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Best I can think of is Armstrong in central midfield and... Tonge out wide right? Monty wide right? Quinn on the left? Or Armstrong on the left and Quinn in the centre? I'm imagining you in particular having fits about square pegs in round holes with this team given the "why not play Luke Freeman at RCM" debates :)

  • Warnock I guess neither really resigned nor was sacked. His contract simply expired.
I went off this, although of course it may just have been a case of us allowing Warnock to save face with the "I believe it was the right time to go" comments: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sheff_utd/6659513.stm

(Oh, and the away shirt was crap that season - the most 'un-united' shirt I think I've ever seen us in. Was it a tribute to Notts County or something?? Wasn't even that different to the home shirt and neck was too big...rubbish!)

It really was, wasn't it? I don't remember being too bothered at the time but it was jarring seeing it crop up on the season review video. In fact I'll come in with a hot take here and say that it's my second-least favourite away kit in our entire history after the Midas games one.

38 points for that team surpassed expectations given I’d had a summer of hearing how it was going to potentially beat Derby for the lowest on record.

This is essentially the perfect metaphor for why Warnock was such a divisive figure as our manager. On the one hand, how he got that squad to 38 points, I really have no idea. On the other, a myriad of things he did / didn't do that directly contributed to us ballsing up what was a pretty strong position to survive. This must be the only time in his entire career that he had people pointing at him wondering why he didn't sign more strikers...

3.5 hours 🤯

I probably should have split this into two parts, but I thought that if I released an episode that was basically just "Tevez + United losing to Wigan" it might have a very limited audience... :)

As to me and Roy gassing for 3.5 hours, blame it on the lockdown and social isolation :D I've been missing the chance to talk about football!
 
Knowing what we know now about how McCabe operates he was probably always planning to let Warnock's contract down ,replace him with a Robson type and open the purse strings whether we were relegated or not and that's why he gave him the bare minimum budget .he knew a high profile manager would want cash and he didn't want Warnock blowing it on players whobmight keep us up

It just seems like such piss poor business management. Why not spend a bit in Jan to try and stay up. I'm assuming the board and manager could have agreed a list of transfer targets rather than just giving Uncle Neil a blank cheque book to play with. Surely the cost of relegation would have far outweighed any risk of spending a bit in the window.
Maybe we were looking to do something similar to Norwich this season and fill our pockets and come back stronger...or become a bit of a yo-yo club like WBA (that would be the only logic for appointing Robson as well :D )
 
It really was, wasn't it? I don't remember being too bothered at the time but it was jarring seeing it crop up on the season review video. In fact I'll come in with a hot take here and say that it's my second-least favourite away kit in our entire history after the Midas games one.

I can forgive the Midas shirt (as hideous as it was) because I can see a logic in incorporating the colours of the sponsor's logo...I can't see any logic in adopting colours more traditionally associated with other clubs that also cause a potential clash with your current home kit.
 

I’d had a summer of hearing how it was going to potentially beat Derby for the lowest on record.

I remember this being a real concern prior to the Middlesborough match - we'd blown it in a couple of home games against Blackburn and Reading and it felt like a lot was riding on that match to get off the mark...when Jags smashed in that long ranger it felt like a massive relief.
 
I think you're probably right - it's harsh to compare any team to Wilder's because the current team is such an outlier - an exceptional achievement for any team by any standard.
I think most would agree that our squad in '06 was weak by Premiership standards and we were widely tipped for relegation, so to get to 38pts and be safe in most other seasons is an achievement in itself.
However, it's the nagging feeling that maybe we could have gone one better with a different approach that I find frustrating. Throwing in the towel before playing the bigger teams with weakened team selections and conservative tactics doesn't help the case for Warnock. Pair this with his attitude of being happy just to be there and picking fights/accusations of bias/conspiracy claims and you can't help but wonder what might have been. Who knows, maybe we'd have fared worse if we'd 'gone for it' more. Ultimately, we only went down because another team cheated so it does seem harsh to criticise Warnock too much (especially given the poor resources at our disposal).
McCabe's certainly not blameless - the decision to open the wallet the summer after relegation is very odd given his reluctance to spend the January before when we could have consolidated a reasonable position.
I guess we'll never know the full story behind that season and it's one that left us fans with a fistful of bitter pills that tainted what could have been a great underdog story.

We never made any effort to win some of the away games against the bigger clubs. We were beaten at Arsenal and Chelsea before we kicked off, for example. The Man Utd game was an honourable exception but we got screwed by the ref. We lost to all of the top 12 away.

8 goals in 19 away games, and 14 defeats, tells its own story. Far too many games with no support for the forwards or lone striker, or a lack of creativity (Montgomery and Leigertwood in central midfield together - oh dear).

From what I recall at the time many teams went up and played at the big clubs with the same pessimistic attitude and formation. I never really saw him get credit for it, but I always thought that Phil Brown changed things a bit. His Hull team had no stars but tried to win away, and to attack at places where we had just defended and lost. Hull got off to a good start, beat Arsenal and Spurs amongst others, and despite a slump cobbled together enough points to get a second year. More managers adopted this philosophy of not being scared despite limited resources and it paid off (eg us this season) or nearly did (Blackpool in 2010-11). Warnock never adjusted and keeps getting relegated. Warnock has had an great managerial career in the Championship and below but the only thing he knows about the Premier League is he can't stay in it.
 
I went off this, although of course it may just have been a case of us allowing Warnock to save face with the "I believe it was the right time to go" comments: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sheff_utd/6659513.stm

Definitely face-saving I think. I suspect they settled on a respectful compromise – Warnock allowed to have a dignified exit where he is allowed to suggest it was his decision (remember he was also allowed to hold his own press conference at the club to announce the departure – a real rarity in football) probably in exchange for Warnock not criticising the club at a time Blades for Justice was kicking off.

This is essentially the perfect metaphor for why Warnock was such a divisive figure as our manager. On the one hand, how he got that squad to 38 points, I really have no idea. On the other, a myriad of things he did / didn't do that directly contributed to us ballsing up what was a pretty strong position to survive. This must be the only time in his entire career that he had people pointing at him wondering why he didn't sign more strikers...

We definitely needed one more reliable option rather than the punts that had been made. Hulse was a good investment that paid off. Of the Nade, Stead, Shelton punts made only Stead could be described as consistently good for us. I imagine that Warnock wrongly assumed that the likes of Webber, Kabba and Akinbiyi would make the step up and be consistently effective. Webber was the best of that bunch and still wasn’t near what we needed.

Looking at the the cost of other strikers that summer, you had Johnson £8.6m, Heskey £5.5m, Berbatov 10.9m – Roberts at £3m is probably about as close as you’d get to in the market we were prepared to spend in. The BBC preview is interesting to see the signings (and to be reminded that Charlton were tipped for Europe under Dowie). I can’t actually remember all of the players we were linked with in the summer (or how feasible any of these were) but a bit of a google has thrown up the following rumours over the course of the summer and lead up to the January window:
Michael Forrsell (then Birmingham)
Michael Mifsud (then Lillestrom for £700k)
Alan Smith (then Man U for £7m)
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink (then Middlesbrough)
David Healy (then Leeds)

I feel sure we were linked with Heskey that summer too before he signed for Wigan.

Players we were linked with that I think would have been good signings for us: Scott Brown & Kevin Thomson from Hibs (were linked for months at the time), Mark Delaney. We had a bid accepted for Stephen Warnock in January, but he chose blackburn

Players that were mentioned as being press rumours (courtesy of the pages at the back of the Rumour Mill on the forum – don’t judge me, I’ve had a lot of time to kill today!): Mark Kennedy, Danny Mills, David Dunn, Nicky Butt, T&T international Chris Birchall (Foxy ”had a whisper” on this one), Ben Watson, Salif Diao, Nugent (we know about the Jan bids, but was also linked in the summer), Greg Halford, Kilgallon (as a summer signing), a mystery full-back that Warnock quotes we had a £2.5m bid rejected for, Caleb Folan, David Thompson, Richard Cresswell, Barry Ferguson, Emile Mpenza, Chris Eagles, Chris Brunt,

I’d forgotten that we’d turned down bids in the summer for Nicky Law too. Also that Marmadou Seck came courtesy of Laurent D’Jaffo, our then European scout.

Only Watford that season spent less on player wages incidentally. As is commonly known, we had a higher wage bill the following year under Robson.
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I’ll end this splurge of random 06/07 info by sharing this classic Warnock interview from September that season...


EXCLUSIVE: BLADES BOSS SHOCK

By Michael Morgan

NEIL WARNOCK has named the day he'll end his colourful, controversial career as a manager - when he reaches 60.

Warnock, who turns 58 in December, sees his current Sheffield United contract run out at the end of this season.

And all he wants after that is another two years with his beloved Blades before bowing out after two explosive decades in management.

The Bramall Lane boss, who guided United's promotion last May to end their agonising 12-year exile from the top flight, told Sunday Mirror Sport: "I am not looking to be a manager beyond 60 - no chance.

"Ideally, I would like to finish my managerial career here. I would like to have two years in the Premiership with this club, then call it a day.

"Of course, nobody can tell you what is around the corner. If we miss two penalties every time we get them - like we did against Blackburn - and then consistently make the kinds of mistakes that led to Reading's two goals against us last week, we are not going to climb away from the foot of the table.

"That will be when it's all about results. And it will be down to the chairman to decide whether a new manager would change the prospects of the club. That's what happens with every club.

"But I think you've only got to look at how United's board have been with me over the seven years I've had in charge here.

"On two or three occasions it would have been easy for them to change the manager.

"But they have always stuck by me because I always think that, if you are considering changing your manager, you have got to ask yourself, 'Will I get anybody better?'"

United's PLC chief Kevin McCabe and football board chairman Terry Robinson clearly agree that Warnock remains the man to take their club forward.

Warnock added: "Being in the Premiership has whetted my appetite to extend my managerial career.

"But I never thought, in my wildest dreams, that it would be as good as this. It has totally surprised me because everything about this league is incredible.

"Everybody here is enjoying it, even though our pride is hurting a little bit because we're down at the bottom of the table at the moment.

"But it's fabulous for me, as a United fan anyway, to see full houses at Bramall Lane and everybody enjoying the success we are having.

"Of course I'm disappointed about where we are in the table just now, but I honestly don't feel that I could have done much more from a managerial point of view in the games we've had so far."
 
We were very close to signing Cameron Jerome in the close season after promotion.

I was told by one of the directors that 3 players were to sign imminently. Two of them did - Claude Davis and Li Tie. Jerome was the third, and I was surprised it never went through.

I don’t think the board or Warnock come out of the January window with much credit but wages were a huge stumbling block at the time.
 
We were very close to signing Cameron Jerome in the close season after promotion.

We could have spared ourself plenty of grief by meeting Cardiff’s price in January 06 – certainly meaning we wouldn’t have signed Akinbiyi that window and probably meaning we wouldn’t have paid for Horsfield too. I think a Hulse & Jerome partnership the following season could have worked pretty well – certainly better than the alternatives we did have.
 
38 points for that team surpassed expectations given I’d had a summer of hearing how it was going to potentially beat Derby for the lowest on record.

Derby set that record the season after. I think Sunderland’s 15 was the lowest at that point.
 
We were very close to signing Cameron Jerome in the close season after promotion.

I was told by one of the directors that 3 players were to sign imminently. Two of them did - Claude Davis and Li Tie. Jerome was the third, and I was surprised it never went through.

I don’t think the board or Warnock come out of the January window with much credit but wages were a huge stumbling block at the time.

Was that Jerome in addition to Hulse, or did we sign Hulse because we failed to get Jerome?
 
We could have spared ourself plenty of grief by meeting Cardiff’s price in January 06 – certainly meaning we wouldn’t have signed Akinbiyi that window and probably meaning we wouldn’t have paid for Horsfield too. I think a Hulse & Jerome partnership the following season could have worked pretty well – certainly better than the alternatives we did have.

Jerome having a poor match against us when we sort of clinched promotion at Cardiff put a damper on our interest. We probably regretted later though.
 
Jerome having a poor match against us when we sort of clinched promotion at Cardiff put a damper on our interest. We probably regretted later though.

That's not what I was told in the close season. We definitely wanted to sign him then.
 
Thanks for the pod and in a strange way (a relegation season), one of the more enjoyable ones :)

It has changed my perception of the season; before the pod i looked back on 2006/07 as the season we were screwed over by certain referee decisions (Steven Gerrard home and away / West Ham away) and the Tevez affair. Even though those things still stand, I now think our relegation was more self inflicted and has soured my memories of Warnock - how shit was he tactically, motivationally and in the transfer market ??

....and my take on the Rob Styles penalty incident - i'm convinced he actually referred to Gerrard as "Steven", and Morgan as "the Sheffield player".
 
That's not what I was told in the close season. We definitely wanted to sign him then.

That may well be true. We'd watched him for a long while and I'm sure our interest didn't end following the Cardiff game. But the management were disappointed with him in that game, "not once making Short and Morgan run", and they seemed unsure - at that time - if he was one we would be going for in the summer.
 
Loved listening that that - so much so that I listened to the triple assault one and then 97/98 one too, great podcasts, really enjoyed reliving some of the memories - and even the terrible moments in a weird way it’s nice to know we all went through it together and all remember just how bad things were!
 

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