It's official.........................Boogy signs!

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Good. A proper footballer. A test of whether Hoof really is willing to change style, or more interesting still, are McCabe and Birch giving him a choice: play decent passing football or go? Either would be fine by me.
 
We could be dissapointed by him from what Ive heard from inside Barnsley BUT he could be good for us.
 
Shame blackie didn't want him...............................apparantly! :eek:

If KB didn't want him do you think that is

1) a good situation for the club to be in going into a new season?

or

2) He will do any more than warm the bench next season because if the manager doesn't have full control over picking the team we may as well write off next season now.
 
We could be dissapointed by him from what Ive heard from inside Barnsley BUT he could be good for us.

Well, that seems to cover the two possibilities... ;)

I would take the rest of the 'Blackie doesn't want him' with a pinch of salt. Its coming from the same posters who said 'fact, deffo' Monty to Leeds, and lots of other horse-shit. He's a good player, lets welcome him and give him a couple of games to prove himself. Then we can start booing him...

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As others have mentioned, if he isn't a blackie signing, this could all go t1ts up for the lad.

Must admit, on the face of it, he doesn't look a blackie type player. Barnsley fans have intimated that he often seems lazy, which isn't the blackie way imo.

Don't want to pre-judge the fella, so will keep the old fingers and toes crossed for him.

E89 is the poster who has said that this has not been a blackie signing. E89 is also the fella that said on May 17 that it seemed likely that Paddy was off to QPR well before it became common knowledge in the media, to everyone's shock, dismay and criticism by some.
 
O/s says 2 year deal and apparantly, Boogy or the Maltese report says it's a 3 year deal?

O/s says he's 30 and the Maltese say he's 29?
 
O/s says 2 year deal and apparantly, Boogy or the Maltese report says it's a 3 year deal?

O/s says he's 30 and the Maltese say he's 29?

It's 2 years with an option of a third written in.
 
2 good signings* in 1 day, so you have to be happy with this.
However, some people will be disillusioned by the signing of both.

*However, for me, both signings need to have been done on reasonable wages and not have been held to ransom.
 
*However, for me, both signings need to have been done on reasonable wages and not have been held to ransom.

I'd imagine most people will ignore the fact that both were offered more money elsewhere too.
 
I'd imagine most people will ignore the fact that both were offered more money elsewhere too.

If that's true then it's admirable, especially in the case of Monty, who gets some right hammer - I wouldn't have blamed him should he have took a pay cut to go elsewhere.
 

If that's true then it's admirable, especially in the case of Monty, who gets some right hammer - I wouldn't have blamed him should he have took a pay cut to go elsewhere.

In Monty's case, barring a last minute change from the Blades (as I don't know if they revised our offer at the last), QPR have had more on the table since before the end of last season.
 
Decent signing, something a bit different, though I see this as now clearly being the end of the road for Billy, Boggy and Evans top two for next season, that lad will come of age very soon I'm sure, could our starting line up consist of something like this.....
GK: ?
LB: Naysmith
CB: Morgan
CB: ?
RB: Lowton
LM: Cresswell
CM: Monty
CM: Williamson
RM: Ward
ST: Evans
ST: Boggy

Thoughts on the 2 ?'s ? Seems inevitable that Paddy will go, not many, regardless of loyalty, is likely to turn down twice as much money, I know I wouldn't! Stoke want rid of Simmo but could we afford his wage demands? That now leaves us requiring a decent centre back, to partner the loyal old dog that is Morgs
 
GK: ?
LB: Naysmith
CB: Morgan
CB: ?
RB: Lowton
LM: Cresswell
CM: Monty
CM: Williamson
RM: Ward
ST: Evans
ST: Boggy

The midfield has 2 very injury prone players in and a striker (yes I know he can play there) and doesn't fill me with confidence at all.

I hope Evans starts banging them in, and I feel given the right service he will, but that midfield for me doesn't look caopable of giving him the service he requires.

The defence, well let's hope Naysmith does re-sign, Lowton.... I hope he comes good. Morgan is reliable. We need another Cahill/Killa type at the side of him though.
 
GK: ?
LB: Naysmith
CB: Morgan
CB: ?
RB: Lowton
LM: Cresswell
CM: Monty
CM: Williamson
RM: Ward
ST: Evans
ST: Boggy
Thoughts on the 2 ?'s ?


There's more uncertainty than you show there. Naysmith has yet to re-sign, Williamson will not play for at least the first 3 months of the season, and is Lowton really going to be first choice RB? And Evans first choice Striker?

The new signing will, I suppose, be followed by the deaprture of Sharp, and I wouldn't be surprised if one other forward leaves as well - Hendo most likely.

The absolute priority now is defence: sorting out the keeping situation, trying to re-sign Naysmith and getting a good centre half.
 
Don't forget that whatever first 11 you put down there, it's inevitable that within about 3 months of the start of the season, half of them will be out due to injury!

We need imo:

2 x cb's (1 cover)
lb
rb
2 x midfielders
 
The midfield has 2 very injury prone players in and a striker (yes I know he can play there) and doesn't fill me with confidence at all.

I hope Evans starts banging them in, and I feel given the right service he will, but that midfield for me doesn't look caopable of giving him the service he requires.

The defence, well let's hope Naysmith does re-sign, Lowton.... I hope he comes good. Morgan is reliable. We need another Cahill/Killa type at the side of him though.

Granted, but if we have someone who can play there i.e. Cressy, then I very much doubt we will look for anyone in particular for that position, I hope I'm wrong, because he is clearly far better up top as we know.

Forgot Williamson was injured to be fair so Quinn will probably fill that position until he is back, unless he leaves of course.

I think Naysmith will sign, he seems an honest professional and given how we looked after him last season, he owes us a season, but we all know it doesn't necessarily work like that!

If Ward is injured I hope KB gives Lowton a decent run in the side, he looked very capable against Ipswich and would of course benefit from a run in the side, when Ward is back then of course, he may well drop back to RB.

Who knows though, only time will tell!
 
Granted, but if we have someone who can play there i.e. Cressy, then I very much doubt we will look for anyone in particular for that position, I hope I'm wrong, because he is clearly far better up top as we know.

I think Cress will be played up top with Bogdanovic, and Yeates on the left.

And shouldn' it be "Boggy" rather than "Boogy"?

I do like boogy :) sounds better
 
I think if all the reports are true about incoming and outgoing players then we may well start with

GK Simo (sheffield star)
RD Connolly (the mirror)
CD Morgan
CD Seip (the mirror)
LB Naysmith (if he signs which birch is confident he will)
RM Ward
CM Monty
CM Quinn
LM Yeates
ST Boggy (if he is a blackwell signing)
ST Cresswell

or

GK Simo (sheffield star)
RD Connolly (the mirror)
CD Morgan
CD Seip (the mirror)
LB Naysmith (if he signs which birch is confident he will)
RM Ward
CM Monty
CM Quinn
LM Yeates
ST Evans (if boggy is not a blackwell signing)
ST Cresswell

We will have to see
 
I am quite surprised to see people predict that Henderson won't be a first choice, if fit of course - is this just wishful thinking or do people think he'll be sold?
 
Well, that seems to cover the two possibilities... ;)

I would take the rest of the 'Blackie doesn't want him' with a pinch of salt. Its coming from the same posters who said 'fact, deffo' Monty to Leeds, and lots of other horse-shit. He's a good player, lets welcome him and give him a couple of games to prove himself. Then we can start booing him...

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But to be fair to Houso, he did start a Monty to sign thread too.
 
This is a good signing. He is sharp and dangerous. He might not flurrish under hoofball, but that is a risk we take with all players. This could also pave way for Henderson leaving, which (imo) is a good thing. If we could cash in on Henderson (I'd take anything over a mill) we could invest the money in others areas (CM and CB please!) and it would free up some of the wage bill (Henderson being a big earner and all)

Decent signing, something a bit different, though I see this as now clearly being the end of the road for Billy, Boggy and Evans top two for next season, that lad will come of age very soon I'm sure, could our starting line up consist of something like this.....
GK: ?
LB: Naysmith
CB: Morgan
CB: ?
RB: Lowton
LM: Cresswell
CM: Monty
CM: Williamson
RM: Ward
ST: Evans
ST: Boggy

Thoughts on the 2 ?'s ? Seems inevitable that Paddy will go, not many, regardless of loyalty, is likely to turn down twice as much money, I know I wouldn't! Stoke want rid of Simmo but could we afford his wage demands? That now leaves us requiring a decent centre back, to partner the loyal old dog that is Morgs

Norfolk's post just shows how far we are away from having a decent first team (never mind squad).

Ward and Wlliamson have struggled with injuries throughout their career and cannot be replied upon. To put Cresswell, by far our best striker last season, out of the left wing is sheer luncacy. Only an completley clueless numpty with no tactical nouss whatsoever would to that (unfortunatrely KB fits that bill). I think the team will be more like:

--------- ?

? ? Morgs Naysmith
-------- Monty
? ? Yeates

------ Evans Cresswell

We have strength in depth in only one area, up front. With Boggy, Hendo and Sharp up top we've extra options (although I appreciate at least one of the last 2 mentioned will leave). The defence needs urgent strenghtening. Maybe Lowton could player right back, or we could bring in Connoly ffrom Derby. Seip is not a bad CB, but I'd prefer him as cover. Bartely on a season long loan could potentially be a good option.

Simmonsen would be an adequate replacement for Paddy (although I'm sceptical it will happen). I'd be sorry to see Paddy go, but bringing in Simmonsen would make amenz.

Midfield is a real problem area (how many times have I said that). Yeates can do a job and if Ward is fit then we have 3 competent players in midfield. We just need a creative midfielder. Yes we already have (a good) one at the club, but he is injury prone and (unfortunately) cannot be relied upon.

Getting Boggy and Monty to put pen to paper were positve steps, however we have a long way to go .........
 

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