How gutted would we be... ?

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Similar happened in the Eddy era,iirc.

I was thinking about that season (1975) only yesterday as a possible comparison to this season. From memory we needed to win away at Brum midweek and got a 0-0 draw, missing out on Europe by a point or two. We got relegated the following season and that was as close as we ever got to Europe.

On the basis that United will always let us down in the end, I could see us missing out on Europe on goal difference and we’ll never be that close again.

That set me thinking about what might be different this time and there are several things. Momentum first of all and what that can add, whereas in 1975, we’d had several mid table finishes. In those days, we’d built the South Stand and were hugely in debt and more likely to sell a player than buy one. We now have an ambitious owner whereas in those days, staying afloat was a challenge.

Biggest of all though is the vision, ability and professionalism of the management team who are pushing us onwards and upwards and I can’t see them settling for one near miss and settling for relegation followed by decades of underachievement.
 



How any of us could possibly be disappointed with whatever happens this season is blowing my mind 🤯🤯🤯

I'm trying to remember where we were 3 odd seasons ago, can anyone remind me??
 
Europa League,

A genuine possibility, with no worries about the team, look at the summer signings, look at the JTW. We have made a clear statement of intent and I have no doubt the Prince would splash the cash and we would be ready.

So yes I would be gutted no to get there, not for long but I would be.

Champions League,

Chelsea still have to come to the Lane, and looking at both clubs remaining fixtures we could nick fourth, doubtful but its still a chance, however I genuinely would not be bothered missing out by a point. Champions League football is like playing a top 6 club every match and we just aren’t ready for that yet.
 
In our first season back in the Championship under Wilder, we were a bit disappointed to finish 11th, having been top (briefly) in November. Whilst we, the fans, were having a minor grumble, CWAK were going over the lessons learned and putting together the final pieces of a masterplan for pushing on the following season.
 
We can see that some lessons have already been learnt and some succession planning is underway. Against Manure, when Moose went off the lack of pace created the problem that allowed them up the field. Zivkovic is the answer, now when Moose comes off we have alike for like replacement. We are also I suspect looking at Panos to be Bashams eventual successor. I think in summer we will be looking at a three similar additions, two forwards and cover for Baldock.
 
Im honestly not bothered about Europe, if we can finish in the top 10 this season, il still be over the moon.
I'd rather us establish ourselves as a decent prem team over the next couple of seasons, than over reach and risk anything.
Just my view.

Much like somebody saying it was too soon for the prem? 🤔
 
Just let's have another half a dozen points. It's tight at the bottom and there is still not one real down and out for the count yet.

You sound like a Liverpool fan still insisting they might not win the league.

We need 1 win and 1 draw from our final 13 matches in order to gaurantee safety....odds must be 5000 to 1 for us to go down......basically we‘re already safe.
 
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Not expecting anything myself on paper we have a run of winnable games but after that it is a really tough end to the season. We have some powerful clubs in a queue just below us if we can manage to stay in the top 8 I'll be delighted. If we miss out on a Europa league spot I will not be bothered, the season can still be considered as a successful one exceeding expectations.
 
Stop being deliberately controversial FFS. Still at 40 points get us home. Anyone who isn’t needs to look at a league table from 3 years ago.
I don't. Net Chris doesn't. Look forward not back. It's the direction we're heading.😉. My glass is beyond half full and almost brimming. UTB.
 
You sound like a Liverpool fan still insisting they might not win the league.

We need 1 win and 1 draw from our final 13 matches in order to gaurantee safety....odds must be 5000 to 1 for us to go down......basically we‘re already safe.
We'll be safe by the end of the month.
 
If we end up in the Europa League then we deserve to be there and I am sure the club will take it in it’s stride. We should take everything we can get while we can. Our points tally means we can have a serious go at the FA cup and depending on the draw who knows how far we can go. If we did get in the Europa I would almost just run two squads, that would nullify the early start and the drain on our Premier League players. With two new wing backs an extra centre back, another striker and a midfielder if we don’t keep Besic I think that would work. Depending on the two loans we have this January. Use it to give games to those not in the Premiership team and even some of our youngsters like Norrington Davis.
 



Im honestly not bothered about Europe, if we can finish in the top 10 this season, il still be over the moon.
I'd rather us establish ourselves as a decent prem team over the next couple of seasons, than over reach and risk anything.
Just my view.
I agree. Am I right in thinking the higher you finish the better it is for where you enter the tournament? I know Burnley/ Hull (although theres was from being FA cup runners up) started the tournament really early and it messed up their season.
 
I just dont think we're ready for an assault on Europe yet, I may be wrong, but let's just see how the new boys do first, they will be seriously important if we do make it, and 2 haven't even touched a ball yet.
 
I just dont think we're ready for an assault on Europe yet, I may be wrong, but let's just see how the new boys do first, they will be seriously important if we do make it, and 2 haven't even touched a ball yet.
We’re not but if we qualify then I’m confident we would be by the start of the season
 
I spoke to some Leicester fans before the home match and it struck me how humble they were and still amazed by their title win. It hadn’t changed how they viewed themselves and the culture of the club and I sincerely hope we are like this as well going forwards.

The Leicester fans that I encountered were the most arrogant unpleasant cunts that I have met at a game since the 80’s. They were such arseholes that The Devonshire Cat had to close.

Actually, I did get stuck on a train with some Wrexham fans last year who were even worse!
 
I think what I’d probably do is compare the strike force of the top 4/6 with ours and say well that’s fair enough if it came down to goal difference.
 
The Leicester fans that I encountered were the most arrogant unpleasant cunts that I have met at a game since the 80’s. They were such arseholes that The Devonshire Cat had to close.

Actually, I did get stuck on a train with some Wrexham fans last year who were even worse!
The Wrexham Taffs have every reason to be twats to be fair.
 
If come the end of the season we miss out on a Champions League or Europe League place on goal difference (or a very narrow margin)?

Not at all, slightly, or very?

Of course we'd be DELIGHTED with how the team (and club) has done, but something like that can have tendencies to change perspective dramatically.

(For example if we survived on the final day with a last minute goal keeping us we'd feel euphoric about the season I think)

Because whereas before if we lost games (or dropped points) to 'better teams' we'd be 'understanding' and 'accept it', quite rightly, but now I'd like to believe I wouldn't be unreasonably disappointed but... I think I would be.

Anyone else the same? (yes I've drunk too much! UTB)

It's an interesting question and controversial as some have posted.

For me, I can look back to our first season in the Championship and how we faded away near the end. This might happen here, but if it does it will only strengthen CW's resolve to take stock and find the reasons why we failed. The first championship season (and it's failure) led CW and team to completely update the spine of the team - in came Hendo, Egan, Norwood and McGoldrick which proved to be significant to allow other players like Stevens, Baldock & Fleck to push their own standards higher. It's what good management do.

If we don't make it, then our club should once again take stock of what is needed to progress - sadly that would mean some of our fans favourites fall by the wayside. My opinion is that CW is ruthless in his pursuit of moving the club forward and the way forward is new players - like Berge.

One of the main beauties of a CW team, is we rarely have a bad day at the office on match days - the collective resolve works wonders, as it did yesterday.

As for last day of the season, sorry, that's daft - never been on the agenda - for me since Chelsea away.

As for Europe - CL would be a massive mistake at this point of our club development. Europa league could be dangerous next season - aka: Hull and Wolves. Believe Hull got relegated the same season and Wolves have vast amounts of Georges Mendes persuasion and Fosun money which pouts a different dimension on them.

We should though welcome the Europa League with open arms if it happened and for sure should have a real go at getting into it and then hope the club management can steer a course through it.

I'd prefer getting to Wembley - obviously semi first and then have a good pop at that big silver thing in a final.

At the end of the day we are making fantastic progress - what a great time to be a Blade, whatever happens.

UTB
 
Stop being deliberately controversial FFS. Still at 40 points get us home. Anyone who isn’t needs to look at a league table from 3 years ago.

You need to move on, League One 3 years ago is irrelevant. Our expectations should rightly change now we are 5th in the Premier League and just had an unbelievable transfer window with our greatest ever manager!

It’s not being arrogant or tempting fate, it’s the reality of Sheffield United at this moment.
 
Seeing obstacls and unable to navigate, thats you. Captains CWAK will navigate the good ship Blades around any icebergs, so shape up or you'll be swabbing the decks:).
 
You need to move on, League One 3 years ago is irrelevant. Our expectations should rightly change now we are 5th in the Premier League and just had an unbelievable transfer window with our greatest ever manager!

It’s not being arrogant or tempting fate, it’s the reality of Sheffield United at this moment.
No, I don’t. I need to have my opinion and you have yours. If you don’t want to see where we came from and how relevant that is to where we are fair enough. Thanks for the advice though.
 
You sound like a Liverpool fan still insisting they might not win the league.

We need 1 win and 1 draw from our final 13 matches in order to gaurantee safety....odds must be 5000 to 1 for us to go down......basically we‘re already safe.

400/1 best price. Someone's quoting half your price on Liverpool to go down, and they're mathematically safe
 



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