The Elephant in My Room

[Sean Thornton]

You been drinking bud??

If he gets that drunk drinking Bud, Peroni would kill him.

 

[Sheffsteel]

I've said before, the only club CW will leave is for is Manchester United, and i believe if and when they sack Ole they will come for CW as their next manager.

Let's hope it's a long way off

UTB

I dare you to mention the above to Man United fans....they would laugh you out of town.

If they were even considering Wilder their club would become a laughing stock and initially face ridicule. They are in the world market for the best and biggest international names. MU have a reputation to protect so no one would ever be brave enough to appoint an older manager where the vast majority of his career had been spent at non league level. Wilder best honour to date is winning a league 1 winners medal.

Imagine Pogba’s reaction....Chris who? Can’t remember him playing at a World Cup.
In fact there’s a chance there could be a Di Caneo situation where the Man Utd players won’t accept his methods and want him out within weeks of joining.
Imagine the reaction of their world wide fan base.....Chris who? Which teams has he played for previously? Real Madrid? Juventus?

A very small knowledgable minority might believe that Wilder would do a good job at Man Utd, think he’d be better than Solkjaar.
However the millions of Man Utd around the world would be in shock and be that disallusioned their share price would plummet.
It’s likely to be instant financial suicide....so won’t happen until Wilder has won a few major trophies..
Appreciate Solkjaer and Lampard have done very little as managers (less than Wilder) but club legends are often fast tracked and are initially accepted.

 

[FYT]

I say 'my room' because, as far as I'm aware, I'm the only person who's thought about this. I'm sure it's crossed the minds of others, though.

There is a rather large club in this country which is currently massively underperforming. A club that needs every single player to want to lay their lives on the line for the badge as Wilder makes our lads do. A club which is, in relative terms, in complete disarray in this moment in time.

That club is Manchester United, and the perfect man to take them back to what they wish to be again is Our Chris.

I sincerely hope that their big-wigs are thick enough to continue down the path of employing 'big names', and that they never give our gaffer a second glance. But I can't shake the feeling that he would be a perfect fit for them. It'd also be a very difficult job to turn down, Blade or not.

Just imagine for a moment how he could sort that lot out; kicking out the dickheads regardless of their wages and giving the talent a chance. I'd love to be wrong, but I can see it happening.

We already know he has the managerial nous to take a side forward. Surely it'd be naive of us to ignore the eyes of other clubs? Particularly those who desperately need a bloke like him?

We also know that Wilder likes a long-term project. Could owt be more long-term than Man U in their current state?

Funny post, this. I'm looking for people to say they've had the same idea but I'm also crying out for people to say I'm being stupid and say that Wilder is here to stay. I suppose it kinda poses the awkward question of 'Are there any bigger clubs than mine?'...Is there a bigger job out there for him regardless of his affiliation with us?
?

I had this very conversation last night, with two of my mates who are Man U supporters.

Just can't see them taking what they would deem a big risk and backing CWAK.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

I say 'my room' because, as far as I'm aware, I'm the only person who's thought about this. I'm sure it's crossed the minds of others, though.

There is a rather large club in this country which is currently massively underperforming. A club that needs every single player to want to lay their lives on the line for the badge as Wilder makes our lads do. A club which is, in relative terms, in complete disarray in this moment in time.

That club is Manchester United, and the perfect man to take them back to what they wish to be again is Our Chris.

I sincerely hope that their big-wigs are thick enough to continue down the path of employing 'big names', and that they never give our gaffer a second glance. But I can't shake the feeling that he would be a perfect fit for them. It'd also be a very difficult job to turn down, Blade or not.

Just imagine for a moment how he could sort that lot out; kicking out the dickheads regardless of their wages and giving the talent a chance. I'd love to be wrong, but I can see it happening.

We already know he has the managerial nous to take a side forward. Surely it'd be naive of us to ignore the eyes of other clubs? Particularly those who desperately need a bloke like him?

We also know that Wilder likes a long-term project. Could owt be more long-term than Man U in their current state?

Funny post, this. I'm looking for people to say they've had the same idea but I'm also crying out for people to say I'm being stupid and say that Wilder is here to stay. I suppose it kinda poses the awkward question of 'Are there any bigger clubs than mine?'...Is there a bigger job out there for him regardless of his affiliation with us?
?

Based on what we (as Blades) know - he'd be the ideal appointment.

However, I fear David Moses has single-handedly ruined any chance the likes of Wilder, Howe, Dyche have of getting that job.

They're more than likely lining up Pocchitino or some other 'big name' as that will enable them to facilitate their global brand rather than some fat bloke from S10...

Rest easy buddy.

That is until the new consortium take over at Newcastle and start wanting to throw money it....

 

[TJB.]

They are in the world market for the best and biggest international names.

None of which have worked since Ferguson left.

Look, I'm not saying Man U are going to sack Ole next week and swoop for Wilder. I'm just pointing out that given their current situation he's exactly what they need, and I sincerely hope they don't realise it. We've still got a fair bit of time left with Wilder and Knill but it'd be naive to think they're drifting under the radar of bigger clubs just because they're not 'big names'.

 

[BushBlade]

None of which have worked since Ferguson left.

Look, I'm not saying Man U are going to sack Ole next week and swoop for Wilder. I'm just pointing out that given their current situation he's exactly what they need, and I sincerely hope they don't realise it. We've still got a fair bit of time left with Wilder and Knill but it'd be naive to think they're drifting under the radar of bigger clubs just because they're not 'big names'.

Why’s it naive, Tom? Appointing a big name appears to be the MO of the big clubs. They don’t just have to satisfy the UK supporters, they also have to keep their sponsors happy.

There’s been a couple of left field appointments recently in OGS and Lampard but they were both playing legends, Champions League winners. There isn’t really a history at any of the big clubs of appointing successful provincial managers (recent history obviously).

 

[Davalon]

My only (slight) worry is that AK is tempted away by a championship team.

Not a chance mate. And that's not my opinion.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

I dare you to mention the above to Man United fans....they would laugh you out of town.

If they were even considering Wilder their club would become a laughing stock and initially face ridicule. They are in the world market for the best and biggest international names. MU have a reputation to protect so no one would ever be brave enough to appoint an older manager where the vast majority of his career had been spent at non league level. Wilder best honour to date is winning a league 1 winners medal.

Imagine Pogba’s reaction....Chris who? Can’t remember him playing at a World Cup.
In fact there’s a chance there could be a Di Caneo situation where the Man Utd players won’t accept his methods and want him out within weeks of joining.
Imagine the reaction of their world wide fan base.....Chris who? Which teams has he played for previously? Real Madrid? Juventus?

A very small knowledgable minority might believe that Wilder would do a good job at Man Utd, think he’d be better than Solkjaar.
However the millions of Man Utd around the world would be in shock and be that disallusioned their share price would plummet.
It’s likely to be instant financial suicide....so won’t happen until Wilder has won a few major trophies..
Appreciate Solkjaer and Lampard have done very little as managers (less than Wilder) but club legends are often fast tracked and are initially accepted.

If that was the case, Pogba’s feet wouldn’t touch the floor to the exit door. But our Chrissie is a tad bit shrewder than that, he would harness the lads talent into a team work ethic.
Anyway! what the fuck have you got me talking about this for? I now feel like a dirty treacherous bastard for just thinking about Chrissie in his Man U blazer.

 

[I should coco]

There’s been a couple of left field appointments recently in OGS and Lampard but they were both playing legends, Champions League winners. There isn’t really a history at any of the big clubs of appointing successful provincial managers (recent history obviously).

Spot on. Moyes had been managing Everton in the Prem for 11 years before he got the job. CW has been managing in the Prem one and a half months so far. Their global sponsors/partners etc will not want them 'taking a punt' on some grumpy Yorkshireman.

Can you really see Manyoo and the Glazers appointing some local lad from Sheffield, a team they have bugger all knowledge about?

Their next manager will be Pochettino, possibly even before Christmas.

 

[super_pig]

I say 'my room' because, as far as I'm aware, I'm the only person who's thought about this. I'm sure it's crossed the minds of others, though.

There is a rather large club in this country which is currently massively underperforming. A club that needs every single player to want to lay their lives on the line for the badge as Wilder makes our lads do. A club which is, in relative terms, in complete disarray in this moment in time.

That club is Manchester United, and the perfect man to take them back to what they wish to be again is Our Chris.

I sincerely hope that their big-wigs are thick enough to continue down the path of employing 'big names', and that they never give our gaffer a second glance. But I can't shake the feeling that he would be a perfect fit for them. It'd also be a very difficult job to turn down, Blade or not.

Just imagine for a moment how he could sort that lot out; kicking out the dickheads regardless of their wages and giving the talent a chance. I'd love to be wrong, but I can see it happening.

We already know he has the managerial nous to take a side forward. Surely it'd be naive of us to ignore the eyes of other clubs? Particularly those who desperately need a bloke like him?

We also know that Wilder likes a long-term project. Could owt be more long-term than Man U in their current state?

Funny post, this. I'm looking for people to say they've had the same idea but I'm also crying out for people to say I'm being stupid and say that Wilder is here to stay. I suppose it kinda poses the awkward question of 'Are there any bigger clubs than mine?'...Is there a bigger job out there for him regardless of his affiliation with us?
?

if he was called Wilderini then you might have a point. Man Unitied's ego is too big to pick someone like chris. (even though they probably should). thank goodness. plus i can't see him in that stupid fucking blazer they have to wear

 

[8lade]

We could always appoint John Merrick as the manager then the OP would be more amusing.
I'm here all week.

 

[grafikhaus]

Jurgen Klopp left Bramall Lane with a bottle of bubbly from Sheffield United manager Chris Wilder, but he did not sound like a man about to launch into celebration.

True, this was one of those satisfying victories which enhanced Liverpool's credentials as potential title-winners, hewn from hard toil on a day when they were not very fluent and enjoyed a slice of good fortune.

These are very early days, however. Liverpool passed similar tests of character last season, and were forced to settle for second.

That has left its mark. So Klopp is not about to be carried away by seven wins out of seven and a five-point cushion. Or 16 wins in row in the Premier League stretching back to March, the last time his team dropped points, in a goalless derby at Goodison Park.

'I'm not interested in the number,' Klopp said. 'It's just a number. You can only create a streak like that if you're always in the next job. The next job is Salzburg in a different competition and then Leicester City, and that will be difficult.'

If they are to break the record of 18 consecutive Premier League wins, set by City in 2017-18 they must beat Leicester, Manchester United and Tottenham. 'It doesn't sound too likely,' Klopp smiled.

So he thanked Wilder for the champagne — a mark of recognition for winning the FIFA Coach of the Year — and the managers shared a beer and talked football.

'He's a right down-to-earth guy,' Wilder said. 'It's great sitting in a room with him. He's open and that's quite refreshing, because I don't get the feeling that managers in the Premier League want to do that. That's been a bit disappointing because I think it's important people chat because we're all after the same thing. We're all after a win.'

They are at opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to budget and expectations, but these are managers with a common bond, committed to harnessing the energy of their passionate fans by producing a daring brand of attacking football.

Neither is particularly comfortable toasting his achievements with a flute of fizz. 'I'm not a connoisseur,' confessed Wilder.

Klopp offered praise to Sheffield United, comparing them to Mainz, the club with whom he won promotion in Germany, and noting the combined force of their players, supporters and manager.

'A proper unit,' he called the Blades. 'A proper wall,' he called their fans. As for Wilder's presence on the touchline, he said: 'I thought I was loud, but he's really loud.'

It was a day of mutual admiration. Also a day when Liverpool needed their centre halves to be on top of their game. Joel Matip and Virgil Van Dijk were quick and aware, strong in the air, the best players on the pitch.

The illustrious front three misfired. It might have been different had Sadio Mane converted one of two clear chances in the first half and tempted Sheffield United to take more risks. Wilder's over-lapping centre halves remained tethered. And the result would have seemed more emphatic had Mohamed Salah not been foiled by Dean Henderson when clean through near the end.

As it was, the sides were only separated by the goalkeeping howler by Henderson, who let a volley through his legs from Georginio Wijnaldum. 'We have to win every game,' said Van Dijk. 'It doesn't matter how the goal has gone in.'

The champagne can stay on ice until spring. This is the season of graft and ale. And that suits Klopp. Link

When will people realise that there are certain individuals out there - like CW & JK - who are perfectly happy where their work has taken them? Leave the money-grubbing (and inevitable failure) to the likes of Bruce & The Cowleys. If CW moved from Sheffield (where his wife and family are very settled) to another PL club and it didn't work out, he'd be slaughtered and he knows it. Decidedly-average managers like Lampard get all the plaudits for achieving fuck all. He knows that too.

 

[Deleted member 1486]

In an ideal world they'll appoint Bruce, followed by Newcastle appointing Garry Monk.

 

[DI36O]

Far too commercial a club to be hiring a pragmatic no nonsense Yorkshiremannamed Chris who proved himself at unglamorous levels to run things. They'll give it Cristiano Ronaldo before that.

 

[blademark]

Leicester might be a bit worried, if not they should be.

 

[BushBlade]

Jurgen Klopp left Bramall Lane with a bottle of bubbly from Sheffield United manager Chris Wilder, but he did not sound like a man about to launch into celebration.

True, this was one of those satisfying victories which enhanced Liverpool's credentials as potential title-winners, hewn from hard toil on a day when they were not very fluent and enjoyed a slice of good fortune.

These are very early days, however. Liverpool passed similar tests of character last season, and were forced to settle for second.

That has left its mark. So Klopp is not about to be carried away by seven wins out of seven and a five-point cushion. Or 16 wins in row in the Premier League stretching back to March, the last time his team dropped points, in a goalless derby at Goodison Park.

'I'm not interested in the number,' Klopp said. 'It's just a number. You can only create a streak like that if you're always in the next job. The next job is Salzburg in a different competition and then Leicester City, and that will be difficult.'

If they are to break the record of 18 consecutive Premier League wins, set by City in 2017-18 they must beat Leicester, Manchester United and Tottenham. 'It doesn't sound too likely,' Klopp smiled.

So he thanked Wilder for the champagne — a mark of recognition for winning the FIFA Coach of the Year — and the managers shared a beer and talked football.

'He's a right down-to-earth guy,' Wilder said. 'It's great sitting in a room with him. He's open and that's quite refreshing, because I don't get the feeling that managers in the Premier League want to do that. That's been a bit disappointing because I think it's important people chat because we're all after the same thing. We're all after a win.'

They are at opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to budget and expectations, but these are managers with a common bond, committed to harnessing the energy of their passionate fans by producing a daring brand of attacking football.

Neither is particularly comfortable toasting his achievements with a flute of fizz. 'I'm not a connoisseur,' confessed Wilder.

Klopp offered praise to Sheffield United, comparing them to Mainz, the club with whom he won promotion in Germany, and noting the combined force of their players, supporters and manager.

'A proper unit,' he called the Blades. 'A proper wall,' he called their fans. As for Wilder's presence on the touchline, he said: 'I thought I was loud, but he's really loud.'

It was a day of mutual admiration. Also a day when Liverpool needed their centre halves to be on top of their game. Joel Matip and Virgil Van Dijk were quick and aware, strong in the air, the best players on the pitch.

The illustrious front three misfired. It might have been different had Sadio Mane converted one of two clear chances in the first half and tempted Sheffield United to take more risks. Wilder's over-lapping centre halves remained tethered. And the result would have seemed more emphatic had Mohamed Salah not been foiled by Dean Henderson when clean through near the end.

As it was, the sides were only separated by the goalkeeping howler by Henderson, who let a volley through his legs from Georginio Wijnaldum. 'We have to win every game,' said Van Dijk. 'It doesn't matter how the goal has gone in.'

The champagne can stay on ice until spring. This is the season of graft and ale. And that suits Klopp. Link

When will people realise that there are certain individuals out there - like CW & JK - who are perfectly happy where their work has taken them? Leave the money-grubbing (and inevitable failure) to the likes of Bruce & The Cowleys. If CW moved from Sheffield (where his wife and family are very settled) to another PL club and it didn't work out, he'd be slaughtered and he knows it. Decidedly-average managers like Lampard get all the plaudits for achieving fuck all. He knows that too.

I think it’s a bit harsh on the Cowleys, even if it’s correct. They’ve never earned decent money from football, they’re not ex-pros. I think they’ve made the wrong decision but can you blame them for turning down life changing money?

Imagine being offered a job and knowing that even if you fail spectacularly, you’ll have earned a couple of million.

 

[DI36O]

Leicester might be a bit worried, if not they should be.

Obviously Brenny managed Liverpool but I'm not sure whether that would stop him. He'd finish higher with Leicester than Man Utd in my opinion but history shows that kind of logic isn't how these things work.
Poch to Man U, Rodgers to Spurs, Wilder to Leicester is a slightly more realistic pathway to disaster.

Put it this way, if one of us, Burnley or Bournemouth lose their manager before it's too late to matter then that club is likely going to be in big trouble this season.

 

[BushBlade]

Obviously Brenny managed Liverpool but I'm not sure whether that would stop him. He'd finish higher with Leicester than Man Utd in my opinion but history shows that kind of logic isn't how these things work.
Poch to Man U, Rodgers to Spurs, Wilder to Leicester is a slightly more realistic pathway to disaster.

Put it this way, if one of us, Burnley or Bournemouth lose their manager before it's too late to matter then that club is likely going to be in big trouble this season.

I can’t see Rodgers quitting Leicester in a hurry. He’s only just joined them and could be on the verge of doing something a bit special with them. Something that could seriously enhance his reputation. He’s obviously made plenty of cash from his managerial career so doesn’t have to worry about that. I think I’d rather work for Leicester’s owners than ENIC and Levy.

 

[metalblade]

The problem for anyone going to manage Manchester Utd is the long dark shadow of Sir Alex Ferguson, they will always be compared to the Man U legend and very few will come close to his achievements.

 

[I should coco]

How big is your room anyway, if you can fit a bloody elephant in it?

I'm thinking it might be of Nigel Adkins dimensions.

BTW, how can you tell if there'a an elephant under your bed?
Because your nose is six inches from the ceiling

How can you tell if there's an elephant in bed with you?
From the letter 'E' on its pyjamas.

How many elephants can you get in a mini?
Four. Two in the front, two in the back.

How many giraffes can you get in a mini?
None, it's still full of elephants.


I'm here all week.......

 

[Bladesman]

How big is your room anyway, if you can fit a bloody elephant in it?

I'm thinking it might be of Nigel Adkins dimensions.

BTW, how can you tell if there'a an elephant under your bed?
Because your nose is six inches form the ceiling

How can you tell if there's an elephant in bed with you?
From the letter 'E' on its pyjamas.

How many elephants can you get in a mini?
Four. Two in the front, two in the back.

How many giraffes can you get in a mini?
None, it's still full of elephants.


I'm here all week.......

I thought we couldn't have elephants as pets.

 

[Sean Thornton]

How big is your room anyway, if you can fit a bloody elephant in it?

I'm thinking it might be of Nigel Adkins dimensions.

BTW, how can you tell if there'a an elephant under your bed?
Because your nose is six inches form the ceiling

How can you tell if there's an elephant in bed with you?
From the letter 'E' on its pyjamas.

How many elephants can you get in a mini?
Four. Two in the front, two in the back.

How many giraffes can you get in a mini?
None, it's still full of elephants.


I'm here all week.......

Why don't Elephants like penguins?

 

[Sean Thornton]

I thought we couldn't have elephants as pets.

They're good for keeping the dog company while you go to the match because dogs aren't allowed in.

 

[I should coco]

Why don't Elephants like penguins?

Because Noddy won't pay the ransom?

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

Man U appointing a British manager !. Those days are gone. There is a worry CW may move on but I don't lose any sleep over it possibly being Man U. Has OP only just started following football in this country ?

 

[Rocketmark66]

You been drinking bud??

Think he prefers Peroni....

 

[Liaminho9]

Sean Dyche and Eddie Howe are ahead of Chris in the 'successful British managers' stakes.

Manchester United's radar won't go anywhere near them.

Personally I think Man Utd could end up embroiled in the bottom end of the table. No one should fear them now.

I've been thinking for a while they could end up like Newcastle; former giant now in complete disarray.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Get the council in. It's only £75 for them to get rid of a wasps nest and there's thousands of them.

 

[boss hog]

If they've any brains whatsoever they should break the bank to get him and he'd be just what they need, but they won't.

 

[BushBlade]

I've been thinking for a while they could end up like Newcastle; former giant now in complete disarray.

Newcastle have never been a giant. Leeds and Forest have won more than them in my lifetime