[Confirmed] Walker back to Spurs

[Micalijo]

Page 12 of the accounts says about Kyle x 2 'their transfers was not looked fro by the Board.'

 

[lenners]

Page 13 of the accounts says 'Kyle Walker has returned to Bramall Lane for a further season on loan'.

Tut tut, misleading shareholders. Was there no qualification on that statement?

 

[Micalijo]

Nope, noe at all. I'm going to consult my lawyer tomorrow!

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Company ones, come out every year.

Fair enough, didn't think we had the ones that included Ched's deal. Got a link ?

 

[lenners]

Fair enough, didn't think we had the ones that included Ched's deal. Got a link ?

Don't think they're online though I think United might have an obligation to publish them (online) but haven't done so.
Then again, the accounts say we have Walker on loan for a season so maybe there's plenty we shouldn't believe in them.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Oh well, FH about to start, should be a laugh

 

[shorehamview]

It says on the OS in the Kyle Walker profile that United pulled off a "major coup" by selling him and then getting him back on a season-long loan. Not so fucking major now, is it Mr. McCabe? A "major coup" would have been telling Spurs, the agents and the other clubs to fuck off. No use complaining now. It's like selling your bike to the kid next door then moaning when he won't let you ride it whenever you want.

 

[boo radley]

Remarkable. How many clean sheets is it in recent home matches?
This has all been achieved with our right back playing poorly, being defensively naive etc?
Spurs need to recall him because he's been playing poorly and isn't progressing?
Ferk me, calling occupants of interplanetary craft.

"Largely, I think that recent clean sheets have come despite of, rather than because of, Walker's defensive contribution - notwithstanding his pace."

Thank God Harry's noticed and we can get a decent right back in instead.
Kyle gets proper coaching, we get a better replacement, everyone's a winner.

The clean sheets are down to other players making up for Walker?

Hey Len, Just remind me again of the last league goal we conceeded at home and how it came about?

So back to how much we may or may not miss him?

 

[GainsboroBlade]

Am gutted about this news!! Huge loss considering we thought he would be here all season.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

As we half guessed, Paul Walker has just stated that there was a clause Tottenham included in the agreement which meant they could recall him at short notice. Presumably they had to do it before 5pm yesterday.

...and apparently he's track suited up and on the pitch with the lads as we speak

 

[boo radley]

Hey up Kyle Walker is at Watford. Reports Paul Walker.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Hey up Kyle Walker is at Watford. Reports Paul Walker.

Well he's not playing, Geary in for him.

Evans, Yeates, Williamson and Camara can't get a start

 

[boo radley]

Well he's not playing, Geary in for him.

Evans, Yeates, Williamson and Camara can't get a start

Evans for right back Len?

 

[alcoblade]

Typical United. Agree a non-beneficial deal for ourselves. If we had any sense we would not have agreed a recall clause which is obviously what was in the deal. That was clearly all bollocks about having first option on loan players as well - NOTHING CHANGES!

Shouldnt have sold Walker in the first place. The sensible thing would have been to cash in on Naughton and keep Walker but no......apparently we had no choice......there is always a choice!

We were offered £4M (McCabe's quote) for a player who'd played 5 games of competitive football. We're in a lot of debt. It was a good deal. We didn't agree a non beneficial deal, we agreed one that sees £4M entering our bank account. We managed to loan him straight back. I doubt we were in a position to then demand further terms.

I just wish the club would spell out the financial situation is simple terms (rather than referring to club and PLC debt separately) and then we can all see these deals in context. We cannot afford to not sell players. That's the harsh truth.

UTB

 

[puppet]

We were offered £4M (McCabe's quote) for a player who'd played 5 games of competitive football. We're in a lot of debt. It was a good deal. We didn't agree a non beneficial deal, we agreed one that sees £4M entering our bank account. We managed to loan him straight back. I doubt we were in a position to then demand further terms.

I just wish the club would spell out the financial situation is simple terms (rather than referring to club and PLC debt separately) and then we can all see these deals in context. We cannot afford to not sell players. That's the harsh truth.

UTB

the reliance on so many loan deals and so few players actually 'on the books' is quite alarming though and no matter how much blackwell flannels on radio sheffield about the state of football, no other club operates under such extreme conditions.
when blackwell resigned after the play off final, we shouldve accepted. it was clear that there was a problem and that blackwell knew the score on the transfer policy that lay ahead of him.
yes we're 6th but the performances have been poor and the players signed on loan largely hit and miss. we shouldve put someone in place who could at least attract a few decent loanees if that was the road we were heading down.

 

[GAZBLADE]

Slag Spurs all you like. They've done nothing wrong at all. Walker's their player and they can do with him whatever they see fit.
McCabe and Blackwell knew the score when they allowed him to leave.
Yes, he's a damn good player, but, he's gone, get over it.
Del boy won't let us down.
COYRWW

 

[Micalijo]

Page 62 of the accounts (post balance sheet events) says during the TW, the club purchased players for a total consideration of £3.045m and sold players for £8.6m..

That to me say we are committed to pay £3.045 (excluding Taylor) in fees. ie - appearance related fees is not included. No doubt others will read it other ways but I think we owe City at least £2.5m irrespective of appearances.

 

[Micalijo]

Well he's not playing, Geary in for him.

Evans, Yeates, Williamson and Camara can't get a start

Jim - I totally agree. Ridiculous that Yeates and Willo are on the bench, and probably Henri. Evans I understand.

 

[Santos]

Slag Spurs all you like. They've done nothing wrong at all. Walker's their player and they can do with him whatever they see fit.
McCabe and Blackwell knew the score when they allowed him to leave.
Yes, he's a damn good player, but, he's gone, get over it.
Del boy won't let us down.
COYRWW

Take out 'Blackwell allowed him to leave' and you would have got a big shiny 'Thank User' from me.

 

[Micalijo]

How come you didn't thank me earlier for saying nowt to do with Spurs? I'm a bit gutted about that!

Mind you - I didn't say get over it. Fair enough.

There'll be alot of fiscal talk and woes in the pre-match hug tonight.

 

[WhiteHawk]

Am I the only one that thinks Walker has been crap for most of the season?

He's had a few good games but mostly he's been no better than anyone else. At least now we can get the ball down and play football without worrying about Walker hoofing it the full length of the pitch as soon as he gets it.

 

[Micalijo]

You can't be serious?

 

[sheffielder]

You suggested that we (SUFC) would have been fully aware that they intended to release Hutton and recall Walker following discussions about Kyle N. Quite clearly b0ll0x.

Everyone knew Hutton was going to Sunderland. It was on the cards on deadline day in August. The stories of them loaning Naughton out started after the weekend. This leaves them with 1 full back.... don't tell me that Spurs first let us know with 40 minutes to go when on deadline day we signed 2 defenders.

 

[GAZBLADE]

Take out 'Blackwell allowed him to leave' and you would have got a big shiny 'Thank User' from me.

Fair point Santos. Maybe i was too harsh in blaming KB.
I'm sure he wouldn't have wanted either to have left in a million years.
UTB :thumbup:

 

[WhiteHawk]

You can't be serious?

All I've seen Walker do for most of the season so far is hoof the ball long as soon as he gets it.

Pissed me off no end one week at Bramall Lane when we were playing some great football and every single time Kyle got the ball, without fail, he would just hoof it long and we'd lose possession.

 

[Mojo]

Just said on RS, Naughton is travelling up on our team coach before heading up to Boro. Taking the mick that is!!! How much I wish he was coming back to us.

I hate spurs now i really do.

 

[lenners]

So back to how much we may or may not miss him?

We won't miss him at all. He's bobbins and only scrapes a place because everyone else makes up for his mistakes.

 

[lenners]

Am I the only one that thinks Walker has been crap for most of the season?

He's had a few good games but mostly he's been no better than anyone else. At least now we can get the ball down and play football without worrying about Walker hoofing it the full length of the pitch as soon as he gets it.

Too right. If it wasn't for Walker we'd be playing much more football.
He never even gets beyond the halfway line because he's hoofed it first.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Page 62 of the accounts (post balance sheet events) says during the TW, the club purchased players for a total consideration of £3.045m and sold players for £8.6m..

That to me say we are committed to pay £3.045 (excluding Taylor) in fees. ie - appearance related fees is not included. No doubt others will read it other ways but I think we owe City at least £2.5m irrespective of appearances.

Why doesn't it include Taylor but does include Ched when Evans was bought 9 days afterwards? Do you mean excluding Stewart?

For the £2.5M figure to be correct Bromby, Williamson and Taylor would have to have cost £500,000. That's before you add the loan fees for Treacy, Bunn, Davies and Cresswell.

Can you post a link to these figures please?

Cheers

 

[lenners]

What it actually means Bob is that we've paid £750,000 for Ched and over £2,250,000 for the others.