CONFIRMED Dean Henderson returns on season long loan

[Sheffsteel]

But let's be clear on one thing, he is 100% worth the wait and the effort!

But the effort will mean that Man Utd benefit.

He’s currently not even average PL standard, great stopper but occasional position/ decision errors, would say he’s lower PL to high Championship standard.
Don’t think any other PL club would offer him an auto starting place, altho he would receive loan offers from Championship clubs.

The thing with Hendo is that he has big potential. In 5 years he might just be one of the best keepers in the league.
Would prefer us to sign a keeper, not right comfortable about developing a player for the benefit of another team.

 

[Cheesebored]

"All this shit" is the 500 plus posts on this thread wittering on about "will he won't he", innumerable messages on various social media platforms with stupid "teasers", badge thumping when we know he wants to play for Man U and a situation whereby we seem to be held to ransom by his present employers or his agent and maybe a combination of both.

Of course I am aware that nowadays Harry Manager doesn't say, "nah then lad thi contract's fer a season at 9 bob a week and free brylcream. Ar Jean's gorrit int office, gerrit signed sharpish afor't chairman changes his mind."

Not shit would be:-
1. Sign a permanent keeper who is ours and doesn't have a huge safety net of a contract to fall back on if he fucks up here and who is taking half of the loan allocation.
2. IF CW thinks he is that good (IMHO he's pretty good for his age and experience and your assessment above is spot on) then can we just accept he wants him, the lad wants to come back to further his development, it's in negotiation and we don't need teasers and thumbs up and the like? At some stage we get him or we walk away.

Apologies. Believed you were referring to ongoing negotiations not the constant wittering on here.

 

[FTPE]

He offers so much more than that. Our back 3 are better because of him! Our wingbacks and overlapping is better because of him! We attack better because of the confidence he gives our attacking back line.
We have had good shot stoppers in the past and still been garbage. Deano is a revelation, there's a reason why he is playing for his country and a reason why the biggest team in England arent sure whether to loan him out again.
How can we judge what level he is at in the Prem already? All I know is that we are a much better side with him and to call him just a shot stopper is really unfair.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

I've been told Man Utd were hoping to take Henderson to Australia with them, but there was some sort of visa issue that wasn't resolved in time because they're flying straight to Chinas from Australia, they're due to travel to Australia tomorrow and Henderson wouldn't be able to travel.

Man United have supposidly agreed to let Henderson join us for light training. Told there is no deal in place yet and he's not a Sheffield United player as of right now and won't be involved in the Real Betis friendly unless a deal is in place before then.

Nah I’ve heard (I haven’t I’ve just put two and two together) he’s joining us and there’s not much point in him travelling to the other side of the world to come back half way through

 

[blademark]

This is getting tedious and annoying.
Deano isn't helping the fans either with his cryptic messages, if anything he's starting to piss a few off...

But let's be clear on one thing, he is 100% worth the wait and the effort!

Honestly, I think 100% is stretching things. I seriously don't think he's top notch, too many weaknesses for that, coming for crosses for example. Blackman was better in that department.

 

[FTPE]

Honestly, I think 100% is stretching things. I seriously don't think he's top notch, too many weaknesses for that, coming for crosses for example. Blackman was better in that department.

He was better at coming for them, he was 7ft tall. Actually claiming it though is a different matter altogether. The ball STICKS when Henderson does decide to come.
We have one huge advantage next year, team spirit and unity. Deano is a massive part of that.
All new signings are a gamble regardless of talent, keeping the spine is essential and last year that spine started with the keeper.
I dont think he's perfect but he's very very good, and the other attributes that I keep banging on about simply cant just be added by a random Premiership reserve keeper.

 

[Captain Obvious]

All what shit? Long, drawn out negotiations are part and parcel of modern football. As it happens I agree that it isn't ideal and think Wilder should be thinking about looking elsewhere for a shot stopper. Hendo has made some great saves in his time with us but also the odd clanger. He's far from the finished article and doesn't dominate on crosses or inspire me with the ball at his feet. Neither do I get the" love in" for him. I'm not convinced by the badge thumping either, we're simply a stepping stone on his career path. I'm aware this isn't a widely held view on this forum but one thing I am sure of is that whatever Wilder decides is best for the club and the team, I'll go with.

Agree with this. Hopefully Wilder makes the right decision for the club.

 

[blademark]

He was better at coming for them, he was 7ft tall. Actually claiming it though is a different matter altogether. The ball STICKS when Henderson does decide to come.
We have one huge advantage next year, team spirit and unity. Deano is a massive part of that.
All new signings are a gamble regardless of talent, keeping the spine is essential and last year that spine started with the keeper.
I dont think he's perfect but he's very very good, and the other attributes that I keep banging on about simply cant just be added by a random Premiership reserve keeper.

Agree with most of that, particularly not perfect but very good. However, I would take Darren Randolph over Henderson. He also knows two of our defenders which helps.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Agree with most of that, particularly not perfect but very good. However, I would take Darren Randolph over Henderson. He also knows two of our defenders which helps.

Randolph would be an upgrade, he also has Premier League experience.

 

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[Snowman]

Apologies. Believed you were referring to ongoing negotiations not the constant wittering on here.

No need to apologise. I’m just a surly miserable curmudgeon.

 

[FTPE]

Agree with most of that, particularly not perfect but very good. However, I would take Darren Randolph over Henderson. He also knows two of our defenders which helps.
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Randolph would be a very good Plan B.
As good as he is it's the Irish connection is what I would still value the most.
I no longer think Deano will stay with us permanently anymore anyway so the age thing wouldnt play apart really either.

 

[raimond]

Honestly, I think 100% is stretching things. I seriously don't think he's top notch, too many weaknesses for that, coming for crosses for example. Blackman was better in that department.

I'd say the exact opposite, Blackman was a superb shot stopper but dodgy otherwise- I never felt safe with him. Deano's class, plucks out ridiculous saves, plays out from the back which suits us and is solid. A couple of high profile fuck-ups, but you can expect that from any keeper can't you? If he was faultless, he wouldn't be playing for us.

It became popular for wise sages to say he's all hype and not that good after Villa and Leeds but realistically, that's bollocks isn't it?? Best keeper we've had since Alan Kelly for me, he's miles better than anyone else we could get and help keep us up. But comparing him to Blackman's like comparing Norwood with Willie Falconer

 

[S15Blade]

He would be no1 for a good number of prem sides without any doubt! Every keeper makes the odd mistake even DDG, Allison etc... world cup winner Lloris...!

Right now he's easily good enough for the prem. His ceiling is as high as he wants it to be.

Re. Argument for signing a perm, Sam Johnstone cost 6 million. Do we need to spend at least that on a GK right now. Imo, no.

 

[bromtom]

He would be no1 for a good number of prem sides without any doubt! Every keeper makes the odd mistake even DDG, Allison etc... world cup winner Lloris...!

Right now he's easily good enough for the prem. His ceiling is as high as he wants it to be.

Re. Argument for signing a perm, Sam Johnstone cost 6 million. Do we need to spend at least that on a GK right now. Imo, no.

Lloris was one of the worst last season for gaffes, add in De Gea and it just shows that anyone that thinks PL keepers are totally infallible are bonkers.

Henderson would be great for us, just wish it'd hurry up.

 

[Stewy]

I'd have Paddy Kenny for us every day of the week ahead of Henderson ...
Really have struggled since Kenny went

 

[Captain Obvious]

He would be no1 for a good number of prem sides without any doubt! Every keeper makes the odd mistake even DDG, Allison etc... world cup winner Lloris...!

Right now he's easily good enough for the prem. His ceiling is as high as he wants it to be.

Re. Argument for signing a perm, Sam Johnstone cost 6 million. Do we need to spend at least that on a GK right now. Imo, no.

Which Prem sides are these?! And if so, why are we the only ones linked with him? I think you've been taken in by his 'passion'. He's a decent Championship keeper, to say otherwise right now is showing nothing but blind optimism.

As for signing a permanent, we'd have to do it next season anyway, so why wait?

 

[SamFran]

Surprisingly Hendo has not been included in Man Utd’s squad for there tour. Could be promising

 

[Niceguyeddie]

I'd have Paddy Kenny for us every day of the week ahead of Henderson ...
Really have struggled since Kenny went

If rather have Moore than Kenny

 

[Harryjohnson]

So what you're saying is, you want to keep him for a season...and the best case scenario is we manage to stay up, and then we can be back in this very same situation at the start of next season? It doesn't make any sense and it's a gamble, If we don't stay up, we won't be able to attract a top quality goalkeeper that we'd be able to right now.

Believing he loves the club is naive mate, he's been playing the fans since day 1 by putting the words to the GCB song on his Twitter the day he signed on loan...and fans like you have lapped it up. There are goalkeepers out there we could get under 10m that I believe are better than Henderson.

Henderson or someone of his quality would cost a lot more than 10 mill. Unrealistic to spend that on a gk first season back in prem when we desperately need strikers etc. Much more realistic to spend that next season when we’ve another round of tv money coming in, the guarantee of 3 years rather than 2 years parachute payments and have made necessary improvements to our attack the previous year

 

[BushBlade]

He’ll sign when he signs and if he doesn’t, we’ll have a contingency plan. At what point do some of our supporters realise we’ve got a manager who knows what he’s doing and not David fucking Weir running the club?

 

[EddieColquhoun]

I'd say the exact opposite, Blackman was a superb shot stopper

After his season with us weren't there some stats that he'd made less saves than any other Championship keeper?

 

[S15Blade]

Which Prem sides are these?! And if so, why are we the only ones linked with him? I think you've been taken in by his 'passion'. He's a decent Championship keeper, to say otherwise right now is showing nothing but blind optimism.

As for signing a permanent, we'd have to do it next season anyway, so why wait?

Off top off my head...

Bournemouth
Southampton
Norwich
Villa
Watford

Arguably
Leicester
West Ham
Newcastle
Palace

We're the only ones linked for obvious reasons, it's been pretty clear from day 1 he's coming back. Plus others all have at least 1 number 1 keeper perm on their books.

Perm, we won't get him perm. at someoint we'll have to sign a perm keeper, now isn't that time!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

We're the only ones linked for obvious reasons, it's been pretty clear from day 1 he's coming back. Plus others all have at least 1 number 1 keeper perm on their books.

Perm, we won't get him perm. at someoint we'll have to sign a perm keeper, now isn't that time!

Noticable Man U signed a lot of their youngsters to long term deals last week, unless I missed it Deano wasn't one of them.

I wouldn't rule out a full transfer.

 

[raimond]

After his season with us weren't there some stats that he'd made less saves than any other Championship keeper?

Don't know mate, but shots faced says far more about the defence than keeper. He made some memorable saves, just not all round a patch on Henderson

 

[Captain Obvious]

Off top off my head...

Bournemouth
Southampton
Norwich
Villa
Watford

Arguably
Leicester
West Ham
Newcastle
Palace

We're the only ones linked for obvious reasons, it's been pretty clear from day 1 he's coming back. Plus others all have at least 1 number 1 keeper perm on their books.

Perm, we won't get him perm. at someoint we'll have to sign a perm keeper, now isn't that time!

So as of right now, he's a top 10 Premier League goalkeeper? ...that's such a deluded comment. We're the only ones linked to him because we're the only ones willing to take him as our number one, that's what the obvious reason is.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Don't know mate, but shots faced says far more about the defence than keeper. He made some memorable saves, just not all round a patch on Henderson

Thank god you've remembere'd them, because I haven't...can you help refresh my memory of these memorable saves?

 

[BigBed]

Agree with this. Hopefully Wilder makes the right decision for the club.

As always, his is one of us afterall.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Henderson or someone of his quality would cost a lot more than 10 mill. Unrealistic to spend that on a gk first season back in prem when we desperately need strikers etc. Much more realistic to spend that next season when we’ve another round of tv money coming in, the guarantee of 3 years rather than 2 years parachute payments and have made necessary improvements to our attack the previous year

I'd argue that the goalkeeper position is just as important as the strikers...but I can see your point.

 

[S15Blade]

So as of right now, he's a top 10 Premier League goalkeeper? ...that's such a deluded comment. We're the only ones linked to him because we're the only ones willing to take him as our number one, that's what the obvious reason is.

All those other clubs already have perm keepers, in some cases 2 or 3 of them why do they need to loan a slightly better one?

Who would you sign for the at a guess 1/2 million we'll be paying in a loan fee?