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I accept we have a way of playing but would playing one striker with Mcgoldrick in an advanced midfield or anyone else for that matter be a good option? We are obviously going to be up against it and playing five in midfield could be a good option, need the players to fit in obviously but I wouldn't see it as being negative
 

McGoldrick could be capable of playing the lone striker role. He's developing into that sort of player - very impressively.

Two behind a striker is an option we need to properly give ourselves next season.
 
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Think Wilder is going to have to totally rethink our strategy, TBH. Premier League midfields and defences are far too fluid to be caught out by the flying centreback schtick, and unless you have a really, really good set of midfielders who can work cohesively with wingbacks (and wingbacks who can find players 7/10 times of asking, which ours can't) then you'll be always defending the counter. And again, we haven't the legs (at the moment) to do that for 90 minutes.

But, y'know. According to some, we've plenty of time, and plenty of money ...

pommpey
 
Think Wilder is going to have to totally rethink our strategy, TBH. Premier League midfields and defences are far too fluid to be caught out by the flying centreback schtick, and unless you have a really, really good set of midfielders who can work cohesively with wingbacks (and wingbacks who can find players 7/10 times of asking, which ours can't) then you'll be always defending the counter. And again, we haven't the legs (at the moment) to do that for 90 minutes.

But, y'know. According to some, we've plenty of time, and plenty of money ...

pommpey

Agreed. The overlapping CBs are great but they leave you exposed elsewhere (oo-er!) and Prem sides have the pace to rinse us on the counter. A huge step up IMHO, but you’ve got to be in it to win it.
 
Away from home yes but at home we need to go for it abit thats where we ll hopefully pick points up except against top 6 still ant sunk in thinkin back to away at gillingham first game is it 3 years ago
 
McGoldrick could be capable of playing the lone striker role. He's developing into that sort of player - very impressively.

Two behind a striker is an option we need to properly give ourselves next season.

No way, he drops deep himself more times than not. If you are playing one up front Goldie is not that player.
 
No way, he drops deep himself more times than not. If you are playing one up front Goldie is not that player.

He can be. He could still continue dropping deep as long as he has runners around him.

Strength, work rate, hold up play, bravery and heading ability all seem to have improved since he's been with us and this change will carry on for at least another season or two IMO. That number 9 suits him.
 
I'm happy to throw names into the mix of who would be good signings but tactics are gonna have to be tailored, there is no point playing the same against Man City and Brighton, in fact what do you do against Man City? And for that reason I'm gonna let Wilder stress about this and i'll just accept whatever happens.
 
I'm happy to throw names into the mix of who would be good signings but tactics are gonna have to be tailored, there is no point playing the same against Man City and Brighton, in fact what do you do against Man City? And for that reason I'm gonna let Wilder stress about this and i'll just accept whatever happens.
What about starting with a prayer mat?.
Out with your new dog Friday morning !
 
He can be. He could still continue dropping deep as long as he has runners around him.

Strength, work rate, hold up play, bravery and heading ability all seem to have improved since he's been with us and this change will carry on for at least another season or two IMO. That number 9 suits him.

Nah not for me, his strength is playing deeper than the number 9. If you need proof watch the Ireland game back tonight.
 
I accept we have a way of playing but would playing one striker with Mcgoldrick in an advanced midfield or anyone else for that matter be a good option? We are obviously going to be up against it and playing five in midfield could be a good option, need the players to fit in obviously but I wouldn't see it as being negative

No .

Add a few quality signings , keep doing what we do best ( and which most other teams can't do ) and we'll be fine .

I can't remember the last time I was so relaxed about our chances going into a new season ,based on the fact that our target realistically is just to stay out of the bottom three before pushing on to bigger things .

Don't worry , be 'appeh. :)
 

Yeah totally change what's been a success for us and lets get rid of 90% of the squad too. Let's park the fucking bus warnock style week in week out.
Our aim is to stay up and if we play to our strengths we will. And if we dont we'll be well set up to go for it again.
They said our style would be fucked in the championship.
Some of you need to find some bollocks ffs.
 
Whoever we play up front, they’ve got to be prepared to dig in with the defending to. That has to be our philosophy next season.....”Total football” A defence that can score goals and strikers who can get stuck in.
We have a way of playing
If we change it were fucked
We might get away with our style initially. But the calibre of coaching staff in the opposition dug outs will figure us out before Crimbo. So we need a plan B C and D.
 
Agreed. The overlapping CBs are great but they leave you exposed elsewhere (oo-er!) and Prem sides have the pace to rinse us on the counter. A huge step up IMHO, but you’ve got to be in it to win it.

Not that I completely disagree, but the same was said when we went into the Championship. The system can’t leave us that exposed, because we had the best defensive record in the league. I’d argue Norwich and Villa need to adapt their systems far more than we do.
 
Not that I completely disagree, but the same was said when we went into the Championship. The system can’t leave us that exposed, because we had the best defensive record in the league. I’d argue Norwich and Villa need to adapt their systems far more than we do.

The paradoxical magic of tuftyball. You can see the areas of the pitch where we should be getting caught out, but we weren’t. It shouldn’t work, but it does.
 
Play like we did at junior school, the only defender was the goalies best pal, and they just stood talking, 2 lads in midfield cos they weren't sure whether they liked football yet or not, and everyonelse up top, tussleing with there own team for the chance to score. Should do the trick.
 
Play like we did at junior school, the only defender was the goalies best pal, and they just stood talking, 2 lads in midfield cos they weren't sure whether they liked football yet or not, and everyonelse up top, tussleing with there own team for the chance to score. Should do the trick.

We had to play with a tennis ball at junior school, otherwise your tactics bring back some good memories
 
I accept we have a way of playing but would playing one striker with Mcgoldrick in an advanced midfield or anyone else for that matter be a good option? We are obviously going to be up against it and playing five in midfield could be a good option, need the players to fit in obviously but I wouldn't see it as being negative
Not for me thanks. I hate that 1 up front business. It rarely works well. It takes a very special kind of player to do that. Let's wait and see who we sign first anyhow before we start speculating on the formation - but you can bet your life it will be similar to how we've set up over the past 3 seasons under Wilder - only with better players - hopefully!
 
Why change something that works.

Hopefully we will bring in some players of better quality and maybe tinker around the edges but lets see how it goes.

We will always need a plan B and C, but Chris and Alan will have already thought about this, and will be working on it.
 
Why change something that works.

Hopefully we will bring in some players of better quality and maybe tinker around the edges but lets see how it goes.

We will always need a plan B and C, but Chris and Alan will have already thought about this, and will be working on it.

It is going to be fascinating to watch the tactical formations/plans that CW/AK come up with to try and win matches in this league
 
I accept we have a way of playing but would playing one striker with Mcgoldrick in an advanced midfield or anyone else for that matter be a good option? We are obviously going to be up against it and playing five in midfield could be a good option, need the players to fit in obviously but I wouldn't see it as being negative

There will be times when we need a deeper striker or to pack the midfield to close out games, but I don't think it makes sense to change from two strikers because of the way we play.

Billy and McG aren't hold up players, Madine/ Hanson played in a way which would suit a lone striker set up better, so we'd need a player like them to be able to play the role.

I'd be surprised if we evolved enough in this next season to suit playing one up top.
 
This will be our general shape in most games. Anyone that thinks we’ll play with two up there often is deluding themselves. Most sides will run over the top of us in midfield if we keep playing the same way. Our overall style and method will remain the same but it will be tweaked.

I expect an extra man in midfield and a deeper line of engagement. We won’t press as high as we have been doing. We would be mad if we did.
 
We’re not even capable of parking the bus, lets not make the same mistakes as last time. Play our way, the squad is built for it.
 
Play the same way after improving the constituent parts that are most tin need of imrovement in the transfer window. Plan B will be the same as before: a flat midfield three.
 

A concern I have is that last season,as good as it was we were sometimes outplayed in midfield, at home against weaker opposition, I'm not saying the majority of matches or time but it happened more than I was comfortable with, it doesn't have to be a negative tactic packing the midfield as long as you have the players to get forward quicker when we have the ball, will our midfield have enough time on the ball with the current set up and how much will the opposition control the midfield.
 

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