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Great post, that’s a way to introduce yourself and gain the respect of your fellow Unitedites.

Some will accuse you of being a dirty smelly jealous as fuck spent a fortune on wankers and still haven’t got up piggy Wendy wankstain..

Not me though welcome to the forum, did you enjoy the last three years of total dominance in Sheffield football that we served up?
 
Yeah I've never heard of half of them.

Never even heard of the team Newcastle beat in the final.

Says it all really.
If you have never heard of Ujpest Doza it says more about your lack of football knowledge (probably through age) than it does about the quality of their team.

For many years Hungary was a powerhouse in world football and Ujpest Doza were of a similar standing in European club football.
 
If you have never heard of Ujpest Doza it says more about your lack of football knowledge (probably through age) than it does about the quality of their team.

For many years Hungary was a powerhouse in world football and Ujpest Doza were of a similar standing in European club football.

I don't think a country that has only ever produced one finalist in the Europa League could ever be described as a powerhouse to be honest.
 
I don't think a country that has only ever produced one finalist in the Europa League could ever be described as a powerhouse to be honest.

Oh I don't know about that.

The mighty Malmo lost the European Cup to the scabs in 1980 and everyone knows what a powerhouse of footy Sweden is.
 
I don't think a country that has only ever produced one finalist in the Europa League could ever be described as a powerhouse to be honest.
Times change.

Ferencvaros and Ujpest Doza were once top quality club teams and Hungary beat the supposedly good England 7-1.

Hungary was a poor country behind the iron curtain and as football progressed they were unable to keep up with the free spenders in the West


Just because you weren't around then and don't know these things it doesn't make them crap opposition for Newcastle in 1969 and Leeds in whatever year they played Ferencvaros.
 
Times change.

Ferencvaros and Ujpest Doza were once top quality club teams and Hungary beat the supposedly good England 7-1.

Hungary was a poor country behind the iron curtain and as football progressed they were unable to keep up with the free spenders in the West


Just because you weren't around then and don't know these things it doesn't make them crap opposition for Newcastle in 1969 and Leeds in whatever year they played Ferencvaros.

I know Hungary had a good international team in the 30s, 40s and 50s but to call them powerhouses in terms of club football is laughable.

In European club competitions Hungary has been outperformed by just about every other country you can think of. Sweden, Greece, Belgium, Yugoslavia, Scotland, Romania, Austria, Turkey, Ukraine...
 



I know Hungary had a good international team in the 30s, 40s and 50s but to call them powerhouses in terms of club football is laughable.
As laughable as saying Sheff Utd are a natural top tier club?
We've had 17 of my 64 seasons in the top division, 8 of which were in the 1960's, never made a major cup final and won a total of 0 major trophies yet the sense of entitlement from some on here is astounding.

At their best both Ujpest and Ferencvaros were far better than we have ever been in my life time, and more successful in Europe than we are ever likely to be.

But hey, if you think they were crap, then I guess they must have been, the numbers say so.

Anyone else for spreadsheet football?
 
I think it is fair to say that for a period, the Hungarian national team could be described as a powerhouse of football.

I wagged off school to watch their 6-3 win against England and was astonished at what I saw . At that time they were miles ahead of any other European team and redefined how football should be played .

Much of their influence on the modern game can still be seen today .
 
As laughable as saying Sheff Utd are a natural top tier club?
We've had 17 of my 64 seasons in the top division, 8 of which were in the 1960's, never made a major cup final and won a total of 0 major trophies yet the sense of entitlement from some on here is astounding.

At their best both Ujpest and Ferencvaros were far better than we have ever been in my life time, and more successful in Europe than we are ever likely to be.

But hey, if you think they were crap, then I guess they must have been, the numbers say so.

Anyone else for spreadsheet football?

I'm not saying they were crap.

I'm pointing out that calling them powerhouses is ludicrous when they've performed worse than clubs from countries like Romania and Turkey.

Are Romania and Turkey powerhouses as well?
 
I wagged off school to watch their 6-3 win against England and was astonished at what I saw . At that time they were miles ahead of any other European team and redefined how football should be played .

Much of their influence on the modern game can still be seen today .

Did Alf Ramsay play in that game?

Or any United players?
 
Did Alf Ramsay play in that game?

Or any United players?

Yes , Ramsay played . There weren't any Blades players in the side although there should have been since Gil Merrick of Brum was in goal and he was about as useful as a club foot , whereas the wonderful Ted Burgin was close to his peak .

There was a Grunter in the team - any ideas ?
 
Yes , Ramsay played . There weren't any Blades players in the side although there should have been since Gil Merrick of Brum was in goal and he was about as useful as a club foot , whereas the wonderful Ted Burgin was close to his peak .

There was a Grunter in the team - any ideas ?

Pig mates Dad favourite player is Jackie Robinson, was it him?
 
Yes , Ramsay played . There weren't any Blades players in the side although there should have been since Gil Merrick of Brum was in goal and he was about as useful as a club foot , whereas the wonderful Ted Burgin was close to his peak .

There was a Grunter in the team - any ideas ?

I've heard people opine that your mate Joe Shaw should have got plenty of caps ahead of Billy Wright around that time, too.
 
I've heard people opine that your mate Joe Shaw should have got plenty of caps ahead of Billy Wright around that time, too.

In 1953 when the Hungary match was played , both Joe and Billy Wright played in the wing half position rather than the centre halves they were to become . England's centre half that day was Harry Johnston of Blackpool who got pulled all over the place by their centre forward Hideguti who often took up a more deep lying and fluid role than anything we had seen before .

Billy Wright eventually took over from him and to be fair , was a very decent centre half for quite a while . However , from around 1957 his performances went downhill and it was at that time and for the next 6 or 7 years when Joe was at his peak and should in my view , and that of many others including the great Nat Lofthouse , have been England's centre half .

I have no doubt whatsoever that he would have made an outstanding job of it and it is little short of a tragedy that the great man (and I mean that in every respect) never got the recognition he unquestionably deserved .

The only good news arising from that scenario is that , had he become England's centre half it is most unlikely that we would have been able to hang on to him , thus denying me and others of my generation the great pleasure of watching a true footballing genius playing in a Blades shirt for many years .
 
In 1953 when the Hungary match was played , both Joe and Billy Wright played in the wing half position rather than the centre halves they were to become . England's centre half that day was Harry Johnston of Blackpool who got pulled all over the place by their centre forward Hideguti who often took up a more deep lying and fluid role than anything we had seen before .

Billy Wright eventually took over from him and to be fair , was a very decent centre half for quite a while . However , from around 1957 his performances went downhill and it was at that time and for the next 6 or 7 years when Joe was at his peak and should in my view , and that of many others including the great Nat Lofthouse , have been England's centre half .

I have no doubt whatsoever that he would have made an outstanding job of it and it is little short of a tragedy that the great man (and I mean that in every respect) never got the recognition he unquestionably deserved .

The only good news arising from that scenario is that , had he become England's centre half it is most unlikely that we would have been able to hang on to him , thus denying me and others of my generation the great pleasure of watching a true footballing genius playing in a Blades shirt for many years .

Great stuff, thanks.

I knew that Hidegkuti ripped England to bits by dropping deep and moving all over the shop, but I didn't realise that Wright wasn't the Centre Half. I do know that Wright was sold a dummy when Puskas did he drag-back to score. The wonderful David Squires depicted Wright being sent so far out of the game that he ended up running beyond the white cliffs of Dover, but unfortunately I can't find that cartoon on line.

Don Revie was a particularly big admirer of Hidegkuti, and started playing that way himself. 'The Revie Plan', it was known as (I know you'll already know this!).
 



We won the County Cup and would still have it if Cliff Richard hadn't nicked it.
 

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