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Shown great attitude, I like how he generally like to drive forward with the ball, he's another like Hendo, Hogan and Big Gaz I'd like us to loan at least next season regardless of which division we're in, they make us better and seem to understand how we operate and play
 
The way we play has changed massively between this year and last, if you can't see that you don't know enough about football. Brooks succeeds in this team just like he did last year pre glandular fever consistently one of our best players at a very young age.

He could play the duffy role, the sharp role very well.

I’m afraid your enthusiasm exceeds your observation on this one. s4-blade is absolutely right. Brooks was anonymous in most of his games.
 
I’m afraid your enthusiasm exceeds your observation on this one. s4-blade is absolutely right. Brooks was anonymous in most of his games.
It’s a pointless conversation really as we have no way of knowing how good Brooks would have been if he’d stayed. Equally had he done so what the make up of the team would have looked like without the money we got for him.
He’s done well at Bournemouth and we’ve done well without him, sounds a win win for all parties to me.
 
Well that was tested when he was here. We weren’t.

Well it wasn’t really tested - I said with Brooks in THIS TEAM, not last seasons team which has been greatly improved upon.

He was ill for a significant portion of the season, and was trying to link up with a midfield of Lee Evans and John Lundstram.
 
If Only - deserves its own thread. Could be a 50 pager of ifs and buts and maybe's .

I'll start - Che Adams.
 
Chris Wilder hopes that England under-21 midfielder Kieran Dowell could provide the “little bit of magic” that ensures Sheffield United’s bid for a place in the Premier League does not falter.

From the man in charge.
 
He’s better than Duffy. I’ve been saying for weeks how vital are Madine and Dowell. The tired old response of “stick to the A team” is now threadbare.
I assume you see the Madine signing as "vital" because it gives us the option to go long and gerritintbox, eh Pinchy?;)
 
Get Down by Paul Johnson. Released in 99 I used to sing it to the Wednesday bastards at school when the bastards dropped out the premier league.

I love that. West Ham came up with that chant for Demba Ba years ago. Not sure if they were copying anyone else. Still, that was years ago. Love it for Dowell.
 
He didn’t. He was very often a passenger. Dowell is a far better player. There is a sycophantic Bladey mythology surrounding Darling David. Let’s see where he is in a couple of years.

Dowell is offering more to the team than Brooks did last season, granted, but to say Dowell is a far better player when Brooks is tearing it up in the PL is laughable.
 
If we had Brooks all season, we'd be top. If we had Dowell all season, we'd be top.

Dowell's a better fit for the Duffy position now than Brooks was last season, but Brooks (drifting right) and McGoldrick (drifting left) behind Sharp would have been outstanding this season.

Hope we do all we can to sign Dowell whether we go up or not, because him on a permanent basis would be the replacement of all replacements for Brooks.
 
If we had Brooks all season, we'd be top. If we had Dowell all season, we'd be top.

Dowell's a better fit for the Duffy position now than Brooks was last season, but Brooks (drifting right) and McGoldrick (drifting left) behind Sharp would have been outstanding this season.

Hope we do all we can to sign Dowell whether we go up or not, because him on a permanent basis would be the replacement of all replacements for Brooks.

Don't suppose you know how he's thought of at Everton do you?

He's obviously being Sigurðsson, Tom Davies and Bernard in the pecking order but not sure if they see him as one for the future or just another decent youngster.
 
Don't suppose you know how he's thought of at Everton do you?

He's obviously being Sigurðsson, Tom Davies and Bernard in the pecking order but not sure if they see him as one for the future or just another decent youngster.

I've already seen articles suggesting he could be their replacement for Gylfi. Cost the Blues £45mil and hasn't performed, so any chance of us getting Dowell might be rapidly vanishing. Best to enjoy him while he's here methinks.
 
So........$64,000 question:

Does Dowell play on Monday, or does the "bounce slayer" Duffy start? We should by now know that CW doesn't do sentiment, but could he still think Duffs is the player to sit in the hole v the pigs?

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So........$64,000 question:

Does Dowell play on Monday, or does the "bounce slayer" Duffy start? We should by now know that CW doesn't do sentiment, but could he still think Duffs is the player to sit in the hole v the pigs?

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Duffy didn't start at Hillsborough last time and that worked out well.
 
Duffy didn't start at Hillsborough last time and that worked out well.

Good point - although I believe for the first time that season we changed formation from 3412 to 352 - we moved bash into the centre of midfield.

Whilst we will give them the utmost respect, we are more in a position to dictate what we are going to do rather than other way round.

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Don't suppose you know how he's thought of at Everton do you?

He's obviously being Sigurðsson, Tom Davies and Bernard in the pecking order but not sure if they see him as one for the future or just another decent youngster.

Highly thought of enough that they didn't let him come to us at the start of the season.

Maybe on a similar level to Holgate.

But Dowell plays a more demanding position, so they could be willing to let him go. But not cheaply.

Can see Everton changing manager though, in which case the reset button is hit and it's anybody's guess.
 
Now they are one of two clubs I reckon CW may be tempted to go to if things go tits up with us - the other being Newcastle.

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How tits up would it need to go with us, I wonder?

He should have a decent budget in the summer to build and reshape the squad no matter what, thanks to Jugears and Brooks (but hopefully not JOC or Fleck).
 
Now they are one of two clubs I reckon CW may be tempted to go to if things go tits up with us - the other being Newcastle.

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Nah Everton have moved into the 'fashionable foreign manager, no better than previous English managers' market
 
How tits up would it need to go with us, I wonder?

He should have a decent budget in the summer to build and reshape the squad no matter what, thanks to Jugears and Brooks (but hopefully not JOC or Fleck).

it's an interesting topic.

Say we go up....he gets 20/30m to spend (not exactly megabucks, but I think this is realistic), who do we actually replace?

We need two strikers and a keeper. Another combatative MC and another LWB?
 
How tits up would it need to go with us, I wonder?

I read CW like this - he wants the issue with McC and the Prince sorted and I believe they are back in court May time this year?

Both of them are noticeable by their absence in saying/writing anything - just allowing CW to get on with it.

The ownership needs resolving one way or another - lets hope we are in the Prem which might just knock some sense into the whole problem.

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Nah Everton have moved into the 'fashionable foreign manager, no better than previous English managers' market

Yep, fair comment - but if the present incumbent goes tits up - the scousers may want someone who is more like themselves and not some fancy dan foreign idiot, Leicester got caught in that bubble - word from the bookies they want Brendan Rodgers who is more of a British style manager.

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it's an interesting topic.

Say we go up....he gets 20/30m to spend (not exactly megabucks, but I think this is realistic), who do we actually replace?

We need two strikers and a keeper. Another combatative MC and another LWB?

You're right Scooter, in Prem terms that's barely enough for the type of Prem players we might be interested in. Maybe we look at the best Championship players, at least those who might adapt to the Prem, but Wilder would need a minimum £50-60mil if he were to pursue permanent Prem signings........or failing all that, we could look at loans?
 
it's an interesting topic.

Say we go up....he gets 20/30m to spend (not exactly megabucks, but I think this is realistic), who do we actually replace?

We need two strikers and a keeper. Another combatative MC and another LWB?

Remember last time we went up when we could pinch players like Hulse off Leeds for £2m?

Now you've got Leeds demanding and getting £15m+ for Chris Wood from Burnley (good player though he is). Or maybe for a better direct comparison, PNE getting up to £10m for Jordan Hugill!

Completely different ball game. I'd love us to snap up the best of the Championship but it's no longer realistic.

£30m would seem like a lot to us now but it would be about the equivalent of our budget back then - which wasn't enough!

I could see us using the loan market very well if we got promoted.

I think we'd stick to the 'British and Irish only please' policy - which I wouldn't mind to be fair, initially.

I can also see Wilder trying to sign Madine regardless.
 
Yep, fair comment - but if the present incumbent goes tits up - the scousers may want someone who is more like themselves and not some fancy dan foreign idiot, Leicester got caught in that bubble - word from the bookies they want Brendan Rodgers who is more of a British style manager.

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Peter Reid it is then.
 



He sure loves a back heel. Never seen so many from one player. Take a look at his youtube clips. He did 2 the other night where it lead to 2 shots on target.

Top player !
 

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