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That's the level of punditry the Championship gets I'm afraid.

Colin Murray and Ian Holloway only people worth listening to when it comes to the Championship on TV.

They could do a lot worse than get that Youtuber Benjamin Bloom on tv.
His knowledge of the Championship is really impressive.
Never ceases to amaze me how this Ipswich fan BB knows more about our players and tactics than the average United fan.
 

That's the level of punditry the Championship gets I'm afraid.

Colin Murray and Ian Holloway only people worth listening to when it comes to the Championship on TV.
Not scared to admit it but I have a sporting man crush on Murray.

Every show he does, whatever the sport, he has done his research - and it doesn't come across like its an effort - he's a genuine sports fan and loves it.

As part of his routine before the EFL show he does, he's often admitted he goes on fans forums to gauge opinion - so if you're reading Colin, I love you.
 
Who’s the blonde one that appears on Gillette Soccer Special once in a while? Always seem to see a clip on Twitter of her stumbling over her words and not really knowing where the fuck she is. Comedy gold at times but frustrating to know she’s getting paid for it.

I know which one you mean, the one who produced the comedy gold line one evening when trying to talk about a lack of match sharpness - "blowing the web off the cobs".

I'm in total agreement for the Alex Scott love in!
 
I know which one you mean, the one who produced the comedy gold line one evening when trying to talk about a lack of match sharpness - "blowing the web off the cobs".

I'm in total agreement for the Alex Scott love in!
Kelly Smith. Really good footballer. Very poor pundit.
 
They could do a lot worse than get that Youtuber Benjamin Bloom on tv.
His knowledge of the Championship is really impressive.
Never ceases to amaze me how this Ipswich fan BB knows more about our players and tactics than the average United fan.

Decent suggestion, he'd be successful as a pundit.

Much better to have someone like that than some nondescript ex (female) pro who throws together some hasty last minute research and trots out the cliches.
 
I don’t know why Sky keep bidding for EFL rights they clearly don’t care about it.

They couldn’t even be arsed to put an EFL goals show on last Saturday despite three quarters of the EFL teams being in action

Because they know people will watch it regardless of how much effort they put in.

Female topless mud wrestling would be a ratings success even if they got slightly racist Dave who fitted the new bogs in the editing office and who has no TV experience to present it.

They could do a lot worse than get that Youtuber Benjamin Bloom on tv.
His knowledge of the Championship is really impressive.
Never ceases to amaze me how this Ipswich fan BB knows more about our players and tactics than the average United fan.

On the Sky highlights show a couple of weeks ago they had the guys from not the top 20 podcast on and they were so much better it wasn't even funny.
 
Embarrassing that people like her get paid to talk this uninformed crap. She's not the only one to do it this season when talking about our strikers or style of play, shocking
 
Instead of clown Smith, they should get Bianca Westwood in. Don't mind her, seems very knowledgeable and is a proper football fan.

Sue is full of typical lazy soundbites.
You are joking?

She witters on for two minutes and then it's back to the studio leaving me no wiser than I was before they went to her in the first place.

Of all the female pundits Michelle Owen is the best by a country mile.
 
This is why I don't take much notice of the shite we get served up on BBC, ITV, Sky Sports & BT Sport. The only "pundit" I actually like is Roy Keane because he actually tell it how it is and doesn't beat around the fucking bush. There's way too many "pundits" who are happy to spout any old shite on the basis it fit's their agenda, those who can't see past the PL and those who do zero research into what they're talking shit about.

I watch Soccer Saturday to see the scores come in, do I care what a drunk (Merson), old big nose (Thompson) or the clowns when we cut away to the grounds in Sloth (Dowie) and the parody of himself that is (is he still on it or is he just on Goals on Sunday now?) Kamara, I couldn't give a shit what they say, I've no interest.

That's one of the reasons I'll try to put on a game just as it's about to kick off and turn it off at full time, I don't need them to tell me about a game I've just watched, I've made my own opinion on it, I don't need someone else to do it for me.

/Rant over
 
I just wish we (football fans) could discuss the quality of pundits without being accused if being sexist of said pundit is female.

Football fan: "I think Alan Shearer is a really poor pundit, doesn't know his stuff"
Media: "Did you not see his excellent analysis of x, y and z the other night, watch it and you might change your mind"

Football fan: "I think Sue Smith is a really poor pundit, doesn't know her stuff"
Media: "SEXIST!"
 
I just wish we (football fans) could discuss the quality of pundits without being accused if being sexist of said pundit is female.

Football fan: "I think Alan Shearer is a really poor pundit, doesn't know his stuff"
Media: "Did you not see his excellent analysis of x, y and z the other night, watch it and you might change your mind"

Football fan: "I think Sue Smith is a really poor pundit, doesn't know her stuff"
Media: "SEXIST!"
What imaginary conversation is this? I thought we were discussing the quality of pundits, and providing evidence to back up the discussion. That was a shit bit of punditry. If anyone wants to put up some example of good punditry from Sue Smith then I’m happy to revise my view to ‘good pundit but makes the occasional error’.

IMO it’s sexist to not criticise this kind of crap. It’s shit and it would still have been shit if Colin Murray had said it.
 
She’s thick as pigshit. She also said that Liverpool were in the driving seat after last nights draw
 
What imaginary conversation is this? I thought we were discussing the quality of pundits, and providing evidence to back up the discussion. That was a shit bit of punditry. If anyone wants to put up some example of good punditry from Sue Smith then I’m happy to revise my view to ‘good pundit but makes the occasional error’.

IMO it’s sexist to not criticise this kind of crap. It’s shit and it would still have been shit if Colin Murray had said it.
I think you have massively misinterpreted my post there.

The two imaginary conversations are examples of what I believe happens when football fans criticise certain pundits. Which is not right at all.

Sue Smith is a rubbish pundit, there are many rubbish pundiots, male and female. I agree with you 100%. Think you have misunderstood the point I was making.
 

The best female pundit sky have ever had was Clare Tomlinson. Her knowledge was great but the wheels fell off
 
When you look at the regulars it's not good really.

Danny Murphy, awful.
Graeme Souness, serial bullshitter.
Paul Ince, terrible, can't get his words out but you wouldn't want to hear them anyway.
Phil Neville, Diet Gary, which is like being a bit less itchy variety of herpes.
Jermaine Jenas, 100% oak.

It's a strange one really, why do you have to have played football to have an opinion, how many political correspondents have been an MP? When was Jennie Bond in the royal family? How many restaurant critics would get a Michelin star?
 
I hate boring pundits like Dean Ashton on Quest, Adam Virgo who used to be on Five, Jenas.

The only regular presenters and pundits I can listen to and enjoy are:
Colin Murray, Gary Lineker, Stelling, Alan Shearer, Alex Scott, Gary Neville, Jamie Redknapp (when he's with Neville), Ian Wright and Le Tissier.

All the others are shit.
 
I like Keown, but it depends who he's with. Needs an Ian Wright really because he's quite serious.
 
Isn’t that Emma Hayes (MBE) Chelsea ladies manager? I could be wrong though
I wouldn’t have thought so. I’ve heard her talk and she’s as knowledgeable as any manager, highly respected throughout the game. As I posted previously, it’s probably Kelly Smith, (if it’s the clip I’m thinking of, it definitely is).
 
Eni Aluko talks shit whenever she has been a pundit which is not that often, thankfully.

The best female pundits out there are: Alex Scott, Michelle Owen and Bianca Westwood
 
She’s clearly just come back down to earth after spending the last 6 months on the international space station!!. I’m not certain but I’m sure they don’t get sky or anything up there??. Lol.
 
It’s too easy to be a pundit, all you need to to is spout the same shite over and over. I like Keane and Scholes because they say it as it is usually, and Neville most of the time looks for something more insightful to say, everyone else is interchangeable with each other, no personality or actual interesting insight. All about taste though. More than anything i just wish there was less chatting and more football on show.
 
This is why I don't take much notice of the shite we get served up on BBC, ITV, Sky Sports & BT Sport. The only "pundit" I actually like is Roy Keane because he actually tell it how it is and doesn't beat around the fucking bush. There's way too many "pundits" who are happy to spout any old shite on the basis it fit's their agenda, those who can't see past the PL and those who do zero research into what they're talking shit about.

I watch Soccer Saturday to see the scores come in, do I care what a drunk (Merson), old big nose (Thompson) or the clowns when we cut away to the grounds in Sloth (Dowie) and the parody of himself that is (is he still on it or is he just on Goals on Sunday now?) Kamara, I couldn't give a shit what they say, I've no interest.

That's one of the reasons I'll try to put on a game just as it's about to kick off and turn it off at full time, I don't need them to tell me about a game I've just watched, I've made my own opinion on it, I don't need someone else to do it for me.

/Rant over

You'll like this man. From 3 minutes:

 
Who’s the blonde one that appears on Gillette Soccer Special once in a while? Always seem to see a clip on Twitter of her stumbling over her words and not really knowing where the fuck she is. Comedy gold at times but frustrating to know she’s getting paid for it.
If it wasn’t for you putting blonde and female i thought you was describing Chris Kamara
 

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