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Ricky has been astronomically rattled. Brilliant

Astronomically? Christ, you have low standards. But anyone would be irritated in my position when the same ignorant shite pops up at every opportunity. Try to do something positive for the club/fans yet have those fans lining up to take the piss. It would leave something of a sour taste, don't you think?
 

Astronomically? Christ, you have low standards. But anyone would be irritated in my position when the same ignorant shite pops up at every opportunity. Try to do something positive for the club/fans yet have those fans lining up to take the piss. It would leave something of a sour taste, don't you think?
Nah, you think you know everything so it's funny when something doesn't work out in your favour.
 
Nah, you think you know everything so it's funny when something doesn't work out in your favour.

What bizarre bollocks. Not quite sure where to start with that. But it does appear that an individual failing is preferable to your club's support improving. Sadly I strongly suspect you're not on your own with that. Plenty of very petty, irrational small minds out there.
 
What bizarre bollocks. Not quite sure where to start with that. But it does appear that an individual failing is preferable to your club's support improving. Sadly I strongly suspect you're not on your own with that. Plenty of very petty, irrational small minds out there.
Alright Ricky. Get back to your 'Summer targets 2019' thread :)
 
Alright Ricky. Get back to your 'Summer targets 2019' thread :)

OK, you get back to...... well, it says 'Wind Up Merchant' under your name but you seem to be lacking material...
 
Just before any clueless cunts pipe up any further, I was never suggesting imitating the Palace style 'ultras'.

Thanks.

I think I probably did, to the extent that they make an incredible sustained amount of noise in support of their team. I know that doesn’t go down well at the Lane Library. Beyond that I don’t know or, frankly, care what else they do.
 
I quite like the Palace Fanatics, personally.

This is the thing. People complain about atmospheres at football grounds then when legitimate attempts to improve them are seen, such as the Palace Fanatics or the 1881 Movement at Watford, they're met with derision for being 'pathetic' or 'tinpot'. Genuine question; why is perfectly acceptable for me to bang on the back of the stand in time with one of our songs, but if I brought a drum in to do the same thing I'd get the piss ripped out of me and people would say it's tinpot? What's the difference apart from it'd be louder and more efficient?

Movements like those attach identity and branding to what they're trying to achieve. You don't have to like it, but it works for certain clubs

I've no real issue with our atmosphere, but safe standing will make a big difference when it comes in. There's your singing section.
 
I quite like the Palace Fanatics, personally.

This is the thing. People complain about atmospheres at football grounds then when legitimate attempts to improve them are seen, such as the Palace Fanatics or the 1881 Movement at Watford, they're met with derision for being 'pathetic' or 'tinpot'. Genuine question; why is perfectly acceptable for me to bang on the back of the stand in time with one of our songs, but if I brought a drum in to do the same thing I'd get the piss ripped out of me and people would say it's tinpot? What's the difference apart from it'd be louder and more efficient?

Movements like those attach identity and branding to what they're trying to achieve. You don't have to like it, but it works for certain clubs

I've no real issue with our atmosphere, but safe standing will make a big difference when it comes in. There's your singing section.

Literally counting down the days until back half of the Kop is safe standing.
 
I've no real issue with our atmosphere

My only issue is that I’d like us to have one.

Now, just to hijack the topic, what about the Gottamissdatraffic Brigade. 1-0 up against promotion rivals Boro in a vital game and it was like Moses leading the Children of Israel. Fucking numpties.
 
I think I probably did, to the extent that they make an incredible sustained amount of noise in support of their team. I know that doesn’t go down well at the Lane Library. Beyond that I don’t know or, frankly, care what else they do.

I've mentioned them too, but in relation to organisational aspects that would be applicable to any club trying to start anything similar. The kind of chanting etc is obviously separate and secondary. Whether people like their style or not, there's no doubt it's been well orchestrated and has improved their support.
 
I quite like the Palace Fanatics, personally.

This is the thing. People complain about atmospheres at football grounds then when legitimate attempts to improve them are seen, such as the Palace Fanatics or the 1881 Movement at Watford, they're met with derision for being 'pathetic' or 'tinpot'. Genuine question; why is perfectly acceptable for me to bang on the back of the stand in time with one of our songs, but if I brought a drum in to do the same thing I'd get the piss ripped out of me and people would say it's tinpot? What's the difference apart from it'd be louder and more efficient?

Movements like those attach identity and branding to what they're trying to achieve. You don't have to like it, but it works for certain clubs

I've no real issue with our atmosphere, but safe standing will make a big difference when it comes in. There's your singing section.


When the Kop first became all seater, atmosphere and noise wasn’t a problem. An unpopular opinion no doubt for the younger element but seeing as it’s not the same these days, maybe it’s that the matchday passion just isn’t the same for the present incumbents. A criticism of older supporters who did make the noise back then is that it’s theur fault. Logically, that makes no sense, but it’s a handy excuse. Things change.
 
When the Kop first became all seater, atmosphere and noise wasn’t a problem. An unpopular opinion no doubt for the younger element but seeing as it’s not the same these days, maybe it’s that the matchday passion just isn’t the same for the present incumbents. A criticism of older supporters who did make the noise back then is that it’s theur fault. Logically, that makes no sense, but it’s a handy excuse. Things change.


Brilliant post mate. Bang true.
 

When the Kop first became all seater, atmosphere and noise wasn’t a problem. An unpopular opinion no doubt for the younger element but seeing as it’s not the same these days, maybe it’s that the matchday passion just isn’t the same for the present incumbents. A criticism of older supporters who did make the noise back then is that it’s theur fault. Logically, that makes no sense, but it’s a handy excuse. Things change.

Indeed and I think that's a huge part of it. People kind of yearn for what it was without taking into account that not all older Blades want to sing as loudly as they used to and everyone is glued to their phone screens.

A good campaign would be to convince fans to switch off their phones for the 90 minutes, or better still leave them at home entirely. That'd be a great thing to do nationwide.
 
A good campaign would be to convince fans to switch off their phones for the 90 minutes, or better still leave them at home entirely. That'd be a great thing to do nationwide.

“As part of the EFL’s new initiative, May I Have Your Attention? (in association with initiative sponsor Spearmint Rhino), we’re encouraging all fans this season to actually look at the game rather than watching a screen at any point. For a short message on why this is important, please cast your eyes to the big screen...”
 
Isn't our singing section the Kop?
 
“As part of the EFL’s new initiative, May I Have Your Attention? (in association with initiative sponsor Spearmint Rhino), we’re encouraging all fans this season to actually look at the game rather than watching a screen at any point. For a short message on why this is important, please cast your eyes to the big screen...”
Ricky I’ve got nothing against you pal, was only ripping the piss. Anyone who does anything to help the club gets credit from me.
 
Isn't our singing section the Kop?

I think herein lies the problem. People are creatures of habit, to a degree myself included, they like their familiarity, being around the same faces and matchdays are no exception to that.

I appreciate the desire to plug a gap in one of the four sides by bringing atmosphere to the BLUT and it is a great view, but it goes against people breaking habit. I know Ricky is likely to feel frustrated about this and will think people are faffy for thinking "ooooh I've got to get to me favourite seat and get comfy before kick off" but like I say, people are creatures of habit and it was always asking a bigger ask for people to shift their match day routines en mass, although I appreciate the intention was to start small.

Perhaps the better question to unpick is why has the atmosphere dropped on the Kop and how can we pick that up first? Address the failings there first.
 
Not sure where everyone gets the time to sing, Because I know I am too busy

Enjoying the football
Getting bets on the attendance
Making substitutions on wilders behalf
Betting on what time the man in front will go for his piss to the minute. Usually between 58-62 minutes of every game
Waiting for some bloke to walk past and tell a lad he saw his dad last night and will see him later
Still searching for the Pinchmeister on the kop who I am told sings for 90 minutes, but yet to spot him.
Wait for the two pie monsters to take their seat 8 minutes after kick off.

Sit in the middle of the south stand by the way if you’re stop reading.

But really I don’t tend to drink pre match anymore.
 
When the Kop first became all seater, atmosphere and noise wasn’t a problem. An unpopular opinion no doubt for the younger element but seeing as it’s not the same these days, maybe it’s that the matchday passion just isn’t the same for the present incumbents. A criticism of older supporters who did make the noise back then is that it’s theur fault. Logically, that makes no sense, but it’s a handy excuse. Things change.
I think many people took seats around where they stood. The singing section was perfectly formed then. Fast forward 20 years and many are sat in the same place, but no longer want to make the noise. That’s part of the problem.
 
I quite like the Palace Fanatics, personally.

This is the thing. People complain about atmospheres at football grounds then when legitimate attempts to improve them are seen, such as the Palace Fanatics or the 1881 Movement at Watford, they're met with derision for being 'pathetic' or 'tinpot'. Genuine question; why is perfectly acceptable for me to bang on the back of the stand in time with one of our songs, but if I brought a drum in to do the same thing I'd get the piss ripped out of me and people would say it's tinpot? What's the difference apart from it'd be louder and more efficient?

Movements like those attach identity and branding to what they're trying to achieve. You don't have to like it, but it works for certain clubs

I've no real issue with our atmosphere, but safe standing will make a big difference when it comes in. There's your singing section.

In twenty years time it will just be how it has always been at Palace and most the eye-rolling will have stopped.

Up thread somewhere, someone compared it to the MLS. And in a way it's fair enough, because it's a lot of people who don't really have a footballing culture trying to create one from scratch. And it can be a bit cringeworthy. But I go to quite a few MLS games, and despite the low quality of the football, and the fact that 75% of the crowd is made up of nice white families from the suburbs with young kids, they still create a better atmosphere than some clubs in England do these days.
 
I think many people took seats around where they stood. The singing section was perfectly formed then. Fast forward 20 years and many are sat in the same place, but no longer want to make the noise. That’s part of the problem.

Like I say, creatures of habit...
 
My only issue is that I’d like us to have one.

Now, just to hijack the topic, what about the Gottamissdatraffic Brigade. 1-0 up against promotion rivals Boro in a vital game and it was like Moses leading the Children of Israel. Fucking numpties.
I thought I'd stopped complaining about that problem for good as I'd done it to death.

Then I saw that disgrace on Wednesday night. They should genuinely not open the gates until FT.
 
There’s been threads on this before?! I must have missed them.

If it’s spontaneous and original it’s good, if it’s contrived and with all the tifo shite and ‘ultra’ section it’s embarrassing.
 
Its a societal issue at large, people generally like to moan more these days then give way to a sense of celebration and joy. Christ at the chesterfield game the other year when we were champions and there was a proper buzz at the club after best part of a decade, people sat near me were still grumbling about mis-placed passes and off target shots.

It is what it is. It could be better, it could be worse. If people want to try and create some noise and further atmosphere (in whichever way they want) then good luck to them. If people dont want to join in, fine, that's their choice.
 

The sensible thing would be to move the family’s out of the dull as dishwater Kop Corner and convert it to an experimental safe standing area similar to the one the Scottish Government allowed at Celtic Park.

Unfortunately this would probably frighten the horses in England so the Government won’t allow that.
 

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