Bassett

[oldblade]

I was there mate. Bassett was a fucking alehouse hoofer.

Wilder hardly played under Diplodocus by the way. He was far too stylish and wanted to pass the ball. Kevin Gage didn’t reckon much to the ‘style’ either. He thinks Tuftyball is light years ahead of Bassett’s shite.

He set us back twenty years.

Hardly played? Really?

He made 59 league starts under Bassett, plus 1 play off start.

He also started 11 times in cup competitions (4 FA Cup, 7 League Cup).

That is a total of 71 starts under Bassett.

Who is being economical with the truth now?

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Hardly played, really?

He made 59 league starts under Bassett, plus 1 play off start.

He also started 11 times in cup competitions (4 FA Cup, 7 League Cup).

That is a total of 71 starts under Bassett.

Who is being economical with the truth now?

I’ve very fond memories of Bassett handing Wilder the arm band vs Southampton at home and Booker having the game of his life in a 4-0 win. A lot of fun.

 

[oldblade]

Then again, sad to say, you have not understood the word you deploy.

I can assure you that I genuinely believe old Dippy Dave set us back twenty years.

I suppose he managed to do that by finishing 9th in the first division. A position not bettered by any SUFC manager in the last 44 years.

 

[oldblade]

I’ve very fond memories of Bassett handing Wilder the arm band vs Southampton at home and Booker having the game of his life in a 4-0 win. A lot of fun.

I should edit that to 4-1 if I were you, otherwise someone on here might accuse you of lying!

 

[oldblade]

I was there mate. Bassett was a fucking alehouse hoofer.

Wilder hardly played under Diplodocus by the way. He was far too stylish and wanted to pass the ball. Kevin Gage didn’t reckon much to the ‘style’ either. He thinks Tuftyball is light years ahead of Bassett’s shite.

He set us back twenty years.

So you like Kevin Gage?

Remind me who signed him.

 

[oldblade]

It was. It certainly was. Vinnie Jones, Mark Morris, Jostein Flo. Wally Downes. Wally Fucking Downes. Bollocks indeed.

In fact, you flatter it. A grotesque abomination and a scar on the beautiful game.

The hoofers are hurting tonight...

Yep. Morris and Jones were so bad and we were such hoofers that in our first season back in the top flight for 14 years we finished in 13th place, a full 12 points clear of the relegation places.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

I should edit that to 4-1 if I were you, otherwise someone on here might accuse you of lying!

Probably missed their goal in the fog!

 

[Sean Thornton]

Yep. Morris and Jones were so bad and we were such hoofers that in our first season back in the top flight for 14 years we finished in 13th place, a full 12 points clear of the relegation places.

Did Morris play much of a part in that season?

 

[oldblade]

Almosts and would haves cut no ice. Two relegations you conveniently omitted in your fabricated dinosaur CV.

And you have conveniently omitted to mention that in one of those relegation seasons he was made manager on 21st of January, so was in charge for a total of 15 out of our 44 league games. Obviously it was all his fault.

 

[oldblade]

Did Morris play much of a part in that season?

Fair comment.

I have got mixed up with the promotion season.

 

[oldblade]

Probably missed their goal in the fog!

Either way we hammered them and (probably to Pinchy's disgust) Bob Booker scored two of our goals.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Either way we hammered them and (probably to Pinchy's disgust) Bob Booker scored two of our goals.

That game was the final nail in Gannon's coffin for a lot of people.

 

[Blade for Sale]

That game was the final nail in Gannon's coffin for a lot of people.

Gannon's penalty was the final nail in some poor bastard's coffin who thought he was safe on the back row of the Bramall Lane stand!

 

[Karlos]

Go on, there must have been moments when you left your feet & danced around in the 7 or 8 years DB was here

Go on, reminisce, give us a moment in DBs time when you actually smiled ......

I'll give you one of my moments, first appearance at Wembley for over 50 years, watching those Red & White stripes walk out at Wembley .......

I know a lot will automatically go for the wins against the unclean but a good one for me was deano equalising to make it 2 2 against spurs getting in between 2 defenders and chipping the keeper.kop went mental and I ended up about 30 steps further down the kop than I was seconds before! Great days.

 

[oldblade]

...to be left chasing shadows by the Pigs I’m afraid.

I enjoyed a great many occasions under Bassett. QPR, Forest, Pigs, Liverpool and Leicester all spring to mind.

He was, as I’ve said repeatedly, the right man at the right time. His time was up when Deane left. I didn’t like the constant long ball with keepers punting into the box from the half-way line but at least with the legendary Deane and Agana (all too briefly in fact) there were indeed some exhilirating times. Post-Deane the crudeness was exposed. It was pure hoof from then on. Ugly and ineffective.

To be fair, you have said that. And repeating something means you've said it more than once, so yes you have repeated that probably two or three times.

But how many times have you been utterly disrespectful and insulting about him? How many times have you referred to him as a dinosaur? The word repetition doesn't do that justice.

 

[Davalon]

...to be left chasing shadows by the Pigs I’m afraid.

I enjoyed a great many occasions under Bassett. QPR, Forest, Pigs, Liverpool and Leicester all spring to mind.

He was, as I’ve said repeatedly, the right man at the right time. His time was up when Deane left. I didn’t like the constant long ball with keepers punting into the box from the half-way line but at least with the legendary Deane and Agana (all too briefly in fact) there were indeed some exhilirating times. Post-Deane the crudeness was exposed. It was pure hoof from then on. Ugly and ineffective.

What I object to is the continuous present day hero-worship, especially when John Harris, who also worked on a shoestring, is virtually ignored. He signed Tony Currie; Bassett signed Vinnie Jones. That is the difference.

I also dislike intensely the daft idea, quite prevalent in S2, that his methods have any relevance in modern football. That is the philosophy that has our less sophisticated fans hollering gerritintbox and shoooooooot, rather than appreciating our excellent pass and move football. The “right way” as Tufty never tires of describing it. No doubt to much pent-up fury in S2, where they want it intbox, giving giant opposition centre backs and goalies heading and catching practice.

As the Beatles (and Stevie Wonder) sang: “Try to see it my way...”

Wally Downes. Wally Fucking Downes.

The same Wally Downes who has achieved more in the game than you could ever dream of you old no mark

 

[Pinchy]

But how many times have you been utterly disrespectful and insulting about him? How many times have you referred to him as a dinosaur? The word repetition doesn't do that justice.

Not as often as his crude, grotesque, alehouse ‘football’ insulted the beautiful game. He is a dinosaur, because he would play the same ‘style’ today. That’s why football terminated its relationship with him a long time ago.

I don’t respect him now. He talks utter bollocks about a game that, thank Pele, left him behind.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Not as often as his crude, grotesque, alehouse ‘football’ insulted the beautiful game. He is a dinosaur, because he would play the same ‘style’ today. That’s why football terminated its relationship with him a long time ago.

I don’t respect him now. He talks utter bollocks about a game that, thank Pele, left him behind.

Stearman.
Lundstram.
Carruthers.
Madine.
Talk about their style and ability.

 

[Pinchy]

Stearman.
Lundstram.
Carruthers.
Madine.
Talk about their style and ability.

If you’re trying to pretend that Tuftyball and Bassett’s Pubball have anything in common, I despair. I simply despair. Ask Kevin Gage next time you’re Dronfield way.

Wally Downes. Wally Fucking Downes.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Education is what it's all about Punchy.
Comment in the grace and skill of Jimmy Hanson.
Lol.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Of course.
To save the day.
We've got Billy Sharp.
Billy Sharp.
We've got Billy Sharp.
Tralalalalalala.
Super Bill.

 

[Pinchy]

Of course.
To save the day.
We've got Billy Sharp.
Billy Sharp.
We've got Billy Sharp.
Tralalalalalala.
Super Bill.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

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You with Reg Brealey.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Chris Morgan.
Finesse.
On and off the ball.
Years playing for Bassett at Barnsley, Warnock aided his development at the Lane.. Excellent Blade.

 

[TTMeysh]

This 'one man against the world' crusade is almost making me nostalgic for the days of Len De Goey taking on all-comers on Blades United. Almost.

It was occasionally dull during Harry's time - I remember a 0-0 against Wimbledon which was literally a ten-a-side wrestling match with a football thrown is an additional hazard - but in general it was fookin' fantastic.

 

[Bergen Blade]

All managers try to find a way of playing that gives their team and club the best chance of being successful. It's about putting a team of players together and identifying certain things that they are able to do a little better than the opposition. That's what brought wins against all teams (bar Arsenal) in the country and made us the best team in the country for a few months in 1992. That was a remarkable achievement.

In today's football Bassett's 1992 team wouldn't have done well. Harris' teams wouldn't have done well either. Football has moved on. Nevertheless it must be allowed to say that one enjoyed those good times under Bassett, without being accused of wanting a return to that style now.

Chris Wilder has also identified stuff that we're able to do a little better than most other teams. He didn't arrive with quite the same style that we play now, but he realised that he had the players to dominate games in League One and these players have formed relations and developed a unique style that make us effective even now when the quality of our players are sometimes more than matched by opposition teams. Let's hope he's allowed to improve and develop the group of players. It would be very interesting to see how we'd do at the top level.

 

[Grappler]

...to be left chasing shadows by the Pigs I’m afraid.

I enjoyed a great many occasions under Bassett. QPR, Forest, Pigs, Liverpool and Leicester all spring to mind.

He was, as I’ve said repeatedly, the right man at the right time. His time was up when Deane left. I didn’t like the constant long ball with keepers punting into the box from the half-way line but at least with the legendary Deane and Agana (all too briefly in fact) there were indeed some exhilirating times. Post-Deane the crudeness was exposed. It was pure hoof from then on. Ugly and ineffective.

What I object to is the continuous present day hero-worship, especially when John Harris, who also worked on a shoestring, is virtually ignored. He signed Tony Currie; Bassett signed Vinnie Jones. That is the difference.

I also dislike intensely the daft idea, quite prevalent in S2, that his methods have any relevance in modern football. That is the philosophy that has our less sophisticated fans hollering gerritintbox and shoooooooot, rather than appreciating our excellent pass and move football. The “right way” as Tufty never tires of describing it. No doubt to much pent-up fury in S2, where they want it intbox, giving giant opposition centre backs and goalies heading and catching practice.

As the Beatles (and Stevie Wonder) sang: “Try to see it my way...”

Wally Downes. Wally Fucking Downes.

"...I enjoyed a great many occasions under Bassett. QPR, Forest, Pigs, Liverpool and Leicester all spring to mind.

He was, as I’ve said repeatedly, the right man at the right time. His time was up when Deane left. I didn’t like the constant long ball with keepers punting into the box from the half-way line but at least with the legendary Deane and Agana (all too briefly in fact) there were indeed some exhilirating times. Post-Deane the crudeness was exposed. It was pure hoof from then on. Ugly and ineffective.

What I object to is the continuous present day hero-worship, especially when John Harris, who also worked on a shoestring, is virtually ignored. He signed Tony Currie; Bassett signed Vinnie Jones. That is the difference...."

So you actually did have some good times under Dave Bassett then. Up until the point when Brian Deane left, but he didn't leave did he?, we sold him, and by "we" I don't think it was Dave Bassett's choice. We sold him for just shy of 3 million pounds in 1993, a figure that is still "big" for Sheffield United. Our record signing, 26 years later, was John Egan for just over 4 million. So yes, the footballing world has moved on, in more ways than one.

And just a thought, but don't you think that one of the reasons that we don't talk as much about John Harris is that there are less of us that remember that era, than those who were around during the Basset era, on this forum? I wasn't even born when Harris first came here and was still in Junior School when he gave up the role. I remember watching the players, TC, Woody, but as a young kid I had no interest in who the manager was, it was only as I got older that I took an interest in that side of the game.

I will agree that Harris was working on a shoe string, but it's hard to think of a Sheffield United manager who didn't, including Dave Bassett. It's the one thing that seems to be constant in my life time (early 60's onwards).

 

[BushBlade]

This 'one man against the world' crusade is almost making me nostalgic for the days of Len De Goey taking on all-comers on Blades United. Almost.

It was occasionally dull during Harry's time - I remember a 0-0 against Wimbledon which was literally a ten-a-side wrestling match with a football thrown is an additional hazard - but in general it was fookin' fantastic.

I remember that. Their keeper launched it, off side or goal kick or flick on picked up by defence and passed to the keeper to launch. Our keeper (can’t remember if it was Kelly or Tracey) launched it to Deano. Offside, goal kick or flick on picked up by the defence. Their keeper launched it..... for 90 minutes.

Lots of teams played like that in those days though. Arsenal, Dirty Leeds, Blackburn, Villa etc

 

[penthouseblade]

Good points.
Deane and Agana were real talents, as was Glyn Hodges.
Simon Tracey and Alan Kelly.

Don’t forget Dane Whitehouse.....Vastly underrated in my opinion!

 

[Revolution]

I remember that. Their keeper launched it, off side or goal kick or flick on picked up by defence and passed to the keeper to launch. Our keeper (can’t remember if it was Kelly or Tracey) launched it to Deano. Offside, goal kick or flick on picked up by the defence. Their keeper launched it..... for 90 minutes.

Lots of teams played like that in those days though. Arsenal, Dirty Leeds, Blackburn, Villa etc

That was 1991-2. The keeper that day was actually Phil Kite. Tracey was injured.

A truly shocking game. Memorable for me as it was the last game I saw before I went to University.

Of course, that team ended up in 9th place in Division 1, 1 place higher than John Harris' team did in 1971-2.