Promotion odds

[Patrick Suffaux]

The only 2 I could see challenging the top 6 on top of the ones you’ve mentioned are Forest and B’ham, they’ve both looked good sides when I’ve seen them.

Not sure in Birmingham. Forest made a meal of beating ten men the other night as well. May still mount a challenge though.

 

[Aston max]

When the fun stops, stop.

Yes but then the bladey bladeness kicks in

 

[Topplayersleave]

I despise the idea that the two teams in 1st and 2nd halfway through the season are somehow there because of luck.

It has absolutely nothing to do with luck.

Why not ? We're in third place because of luck
Oh, and because the division is shit

 

[SHOREHAMST.com]

Leeds and WBA top two.

 

[Boxer Blade]

I understand that S6 are expecting to get to the play offs now that they have a top manager, unbelievable I know but they are serious

 

[Sheffsteel]

Luck can play a part in one-off matches
But over a long season don’t believe luck comes into it.

Even the old cliches where people accuse other teams of luck are inaccurate. For example
Teams that regularly score late goals aren’t lucky, they tend to have better stamina to attack near the end.
Teams that win loads of penalties aren’t lucky, they tend to spend much more time in the opposition penalty area.

Over the years Liverpool and Man United always seemed to be the most lucky but by coincedance they were also the best.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Naive comment. All success is in part due to luck (and skill). If they weren’t enjoying any luck they would be playing well without winning.

Biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard.

We're third on merit. Just like Norwich are second on merit and Leeds are top on merit.

Luck hasn't played any part in it whatsoever.

To even suggest that it has is disrespectful to the managers and playing staff off all three clubs.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard.

We're third on merit. Just like Norwich are second on merit and Leeds are top on merit.

Luck hasn't played any part in it whatsoever.

To even suggest that it has is disrespectful to the managers and playing staff off all three clubs.

No ^ that is a load of bollocks. So you’re saying luck (good or bad) plays no part in sporting success or failure?

Ok then. I’ll remember next time a top of the table side wins due to a goal from a massive deflection or poor penalty decision, that it’s all down to merit.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

No ^ that is a load of bollocks. So you’re saying luck (good or bad) plays no part in sporting success or failure?

Ok then. I’ll remember next time a top of the table side wins due to a goal from a massive deflection or poor penalty decision, that it’s all down to merit.

Luck very rarely plays any part in sport.

A massive deflection is just a part of the game of football. I don't know why it would ever be ascribed to luck.

A poor penalty decision is bad refereeing. Again, fuck all to do with luck.

 

[wizadry]

Luck very rarely plays any part in sport.

A massive deflection is just a part of the game of football. I don't know why it would ever be ascribed to luck.

A poor penalty decision is bad refereeing. Again, fuck all to do with luck.

I’m in general agreement nuddy but luck can play a part and even the great Rocket Ronnie once said he’d rather be lucky than good. This was after a tournament in 2017 when he got to a semi final playing awful but got lucky in every match to get there. His own words, luck can play a part in sport. Less so in football though as it is over a more sustained period of time.

 

[Isar]

I did an accumulator pre-season, all to finish 1st in respective leagues:
Liverpool
Sheff Utd
Luton
Lincoln
Returns £30k

So I have more than one reason to hope we do it.

 

[I should coco]

A poor penalty decision is bad refereeing. Again, fuck all to do with luck.

Strikes me that the team that benefits from the bad decision have been pretty lucky.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Both Norwich and Leeds have had things go for them until this last week. Whether they have been lucky or are decent teams time will tell. I think Leeds are more likely to stay the distance but I still think WBA will win the League although every time I say this they seem to have a wobble. Will be interesting to see how this month pans out transfer wise.

 

[SwissBlade]

We were 5/1 to win the league yesterday

 

[Wandsworth Blade]

On the handicap bet I placed at the start of the season (Stoke plus 14) it's essentially a 3 horse race between us, Norwich (also plus 14) and Leeds (plus 9). I think I got around 20-1 at the start of the season for champions.
Yes I dare to dream.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Luck very rarely plays any part in sport.

A massive deflection is just a part of the game of football. I don't know why it would ever be ascribed to luck.

A poor penalty decision is bad refereeing. Again, fuck all to do with luck.

Strange opinions but you’re entitled to them. “Luck rarely plays a part in sport” is the most bizarre statement I’ve read on here in some time but let’s move on.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Strange opinions but you’re entitled to them. “Luck rarely plays a part in sport” is the most bizarre statement I’ve read on here in some time but let’s move on.

I'd love you to meet Chris Wilder face to face and tell him we're 3rd because of luck.

He'd think you were a bell end.

 

[I should coco]

I'd love you to meet Chris Wilder face to face and tell him we're 3rd because of luck.

He'd think you were a bell end.

He'd probably think that most grown men who spend all day arguing with other random internet posters were bellends too.

I am!

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

I'd love you to meet Chris Wilder face to face and tell him we're 3rd because of luck.

He'd think you were a bell end.

Well you’re proving how easy it is to make that kind of impression on someone.

I didn’t say we were 3rd because of luck. You need to read things properly.

 

[andy m]

Luck very rarely plays any part in sport.

A massive deflection is just a part of the game of football. I don't know why it would ever be ascribed to luck.

A poor penalty decision is bad refereeing. Again, fuck all to do with luck.

That is just total and utter bollocks. Was Paul Coutts injury not unlucky?

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Was Paul Coutts injury not unlucky?

Nothing to do with luck whatsoever.

Coutts made the decision to take the shot even though he knew Sordell was closing him down. Likewise, Sordell chose to attempt to make the block with his studs showing.

If a paraglider had plummeted out of the sky and collided with Coutts then that would have been unlucky.

I suggest you go and look up the definition of luck.

 

[andy m]

Nothing to do with luck whatsoever.

Coutts made the decision to take the shot even though he knew Sordell was closing him down. Likewise, Sordell chose to attempt to make the block with his studs showing.

If a paraglider had plummeted out of the sky and collided with Coutts then that would have been unlucky.

I suggest you go and look up the definition of luck.

The incident happened by chance, Sordell did not intend to injure him, so his injury was bad luck.

Now perhaps you could look up the definition of dull. It might have a photograph of you.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

I did an accumulator pre-season, all to finish 1st in respective leagues:
Liverpool
Sheff Utd
Luton
Lincoln
Returns £30k

So I have more than one reason to hope we do it.

What's your cash out value at the minute mate?

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

The incident happened by chance, Sordell did not intend to injure him, so his injury was bad luck.

Luck is a word that only exists in the vocabulary of losers and also-rans. It's an excuse, and a shit excuse at that.

There are many reasons why the best teams nearly always win and the poor teams often lose. Luck isn't one of them.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

He'd probably think that most grown men who spend all day arguing with other random internet posters were bellends too.

I am!

No you're not

 

[PittsburghBlade]

Naive comment. All success is in part due to luck (and skill). If they weren’t enjoying any luck they would be playing well without winning.

It's not without luck you're right, but not every goal you score is lucky.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

It's not without luck you're right, but not every goal you score is lucky.

Never said it was

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

That is just total and utter bollocks. Was Paul Coutts injury not unlucky?

Nuddy must believe that there are no other variables outside of the control of the players.

Bad refereeing due to poor line of sight or interpretation, windy or wet conditions affecting the movement of the ball, a slip, an unfortunate injury etc etc. All factors outside of human control which contribute to either good or bad luck. Not always affecting a game but sometimes.

It’s not unreasonable to suggest that teams currently sat at the top of the division have both played well and had the rub of the green at important times. An absence of good luck will almost certainly see a team not get what it deserves from a game or run of games, whether that luck is made or whether it falls in your lap, it does have an impact. That’s one of the things that makes the game so exciting and frustrating at the same time.

Luck is luck. Sometimes used as an excuse, sometimes a genuine justification for failure. To suggest it has no bearing and that every goal or point on a league table is down solely to ability is the biggest load of rubbish I’ve ever read.