CONFIRMED Gary Madine signs on loan

[blade too long]

Nothing on OS yet

Will hopefully stay that way.
Might be a decent footballing acquisition but it's like signing Fred West

 

[Sandygate Blade]

Taking the Madine factor out he just doesn't seem to be the type of player or person we need. Only positive I can think of it would give us a Plan B to change games.

i can see this being like the Terry Curran signing but 10 times worse.

 

[metalblade]

Lets hope he was offered to us by his agent and Wilder has spoken to him and told them to fuck off.

 

[Rusty view]

The mans a twat (I've seen it 1st hand not to the extent of Tynemouth Blade)

He's going to divide the fanbase

He's hardly played all season. (5 mins since 1st Oct)

He hasn't scored

It's all a little baffling

And as much as we all put our trust in the gaffer it's still very odd from my point of view.

 

[Doddyontheball]

Let this be your mantra... In Wilder and Knill we trust. Accept and get on with it.

 

[Smirth]

Sick of the trust in Wilder comments. We are allowed to have differing opinions and his January transfer record with us is appalling. Where are Holmes, Evans, Leonard, Carruthers now? How did the loan signing of Wilson turn out?

 

[Blade56]

Who else is going then?

 

[Sheffsteel]

Sick of the trust in Wilder comments. We are allowed to have differing opinions and his January transfer record with us is appalling. Where are Holmes, Evans, Leonard, Carruthers now? How did the loan signing of Wilson turn out?

Some have made the point that Wilder might leave because of the lack of support from the owners
But if what if Wilder left because of lack of support and respect from THE FANS.

Will we ever learn? Another trial by twitter, the hysterical mob should hang their head in shame.
If I was Wilder I would walk if I’m not allowed to do my job as the manager.

 

[Smirth]

Some have made the point that Wilder might leave because of the lack of support from the owners
But if what if Wilder left because of lack of support and respect from THE FANS.

Will we ever learn? Another trial by twitter, the hysterical mob should hang their head in shame.

How is raising his poor transfer record in the January window a lack of respect?

It’s something I’m sure Wilder, who appears to be no shrinking violet, would agree with.

 

[Revolution]

Some have made the point that Wilder might leave because of the lack of support from the owners
But if what if Wilder left because of lack of support and respect from THE FANS.

Will we ever learn? Another trial by twitter, the hysterical mob should hang their head in shame.
If I was Wilder I would walk if I’m not allowed to do my job as the manager.

If I were Wilder I would not pay any attention whatsoever to what the fans say.

 

[YES Blade]

I suggest you go and look up the meaning of grievous as in GBH, a tip it doesn't mean a few bruises and a split lip, serious enough to get you 5 years or if with intent which Madine was charged with up to 25 year or life.

My point is the word evil, I think describing someone as evil is way over the top for GBH.

 

[Rodders]

Some have made the point that Wilder might leave because of the lack of support from the owners
But if what if Wilder left because of lack of support and respect from THE FANS.

Will we ever learn? Another trial by twitter, the hysterical mob should hang their head in shame.
If I was Wilder I would walk if I’m not allowed to do my job as the manager.

Behave yourself

 

[Sheffsteel]

How is raising his poor transfer record in the January window a lack of respect?

It’s something I’m sure Wilder, who appears to be no shrinking violet, would agree with.

Agree, questioning his transfers is valid and not a lack of respect. It’s normal, every manager (even Alex Ferguson) has a list of great signings and a list of poor signings which didn’t work.

The lack of respect is telling Wilder and his team of professional experts who have studied tactical formations, 1000’s of replays of our strengths and weakness, decided which areas need strengthening, done due diligence regards character references, spoke to the assistant manager at Bolton (who is a close friend of CW) about Madines personality in the changing room etc etc.

Then after he’s made a decision which he feels will help us gain promotion, our fans tell CW he’s making a big mistake as he’s a bad influence, poor scorer and he’s crap, only good at hoofball.

In the 2nd half of the season by some quirk we seem to be playing top half teams AWAY and bottom half teams at HOME.
It’s not likely that we’ll see many more visiting teams like Derby and Blackburn who were open and positive playing attacking football. Instead we’ll see more games like Birmingham which ended 0-0, they sat back defended in numbers and although it was constant attacking we hardly created a chance because we couldn’t find any space.

If we fail to gain promotion this season I reckon CW might blame the fans for not supporting his judgement.
It’s the not supporting the manager (especially as he generally has a excellent transfer record) that’s disrespectful.

All Wilders targets in the past are brought in for a specific clear reason, some are upgrades, some are understudies, some are for future development and others are for different tactical options. Madine is the latter, he would instantly be the best header and most physical striker at the club, making us much more of a threat from our numerous corners, crosses and freekicks. Don’t think he’ll play much but he’s a useful tool to have in the toolbox for special occasions.

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/no-money.68026/page-15#post-1884867

 

[essexblade73]

So were Cardiff showing lack of ambition when they bought him at the exact same time last season???

Seemed to turn alright for both parties down the stretch last season...

They play hoofball and hes a big lump. Cardiff fans think hes shite as well. Piss poor.

 

[cc1]

Get to the back of the queue Sunny Jim, there’s lots of us on here with dictatorial/megalomaniacal tendencies who’ve expressed interest in the job years ago.

Damn it.

Where do I lodge my official interest?

 

[sheffielder]

Agree, questioning his transfers is valid and not a lack of respect. It’s normal, every manager (even Alex Ferguson) has a list of great signings and a list of poor signings which didn’t work.

The lack of respect is telling Wilder and his team of professional experts who have studied tactical formations, 1000’s of replays of our strengths and weakness, decided which areas need strengthening, done due diligence regards character references, spoke to the assistant manager at Bolton (who is a close friend of CW) about Madines personality in the changing room etc etc.

Then after he’s made a decision which he feels will help us gain promotion, our fans tell CW he’s making a big mistake as he’s a bad influence, poor scorer and he’s crap, only good at hoofball.

In the 2nd half of the season by some quirk we seem to be playing top half teams AWAY and bottom half teams at HOME.
It’s not likely that we’ll see many more visiting teams like Derby and Blackburn who were open and positive playing attacking football. Instead we’ll see more games like Birmingham which ended 0-0, they sat back defended in numbers and although it was constant attacking we hardly created a chance because we couldn’t find any space.

If we fail to gain promotion this season I reckon CW might blame the fans for not supporting his judgement.
It’s the not supporting the manager, especially as he generally has a excellent transfer record, that’s disrespectful.

Behave yourself, for a starters Wilder is the one who blew up the situation with Madine and Sharp after it happened.

And whilst we are on the conversation of good signings

Evans
Leonard
Holmes
Carruthers
Heneghan
Thomas

I will leave out the frees that he signed but did you also think he got his loan signings correct?

Wilson
Woodburn
Cameron Carter Vickers

Everyone gets transfers wrong and wilder is the first to admit it, however the signing of Madine for me doesn’t have a high probability of being a success.

Personally I am over it now, I have had my wobble but if people can’t understand the risk behind this loan then I misjudged they entirely.

 

[essexblade73]

My point is the word evil, I think describing someone as evil is way over the top for GBH.

I dont. Gbh is a very serious crime. Means you fcked someone up. Have to be an evil cnt to do that. Only pass is if the victim was a nonce.

 

[YES Blade]

Sick of the trust in Wilder comments. We are allowed to have differing opinions and his January transfer record with us is appalling. Where are Holmes, Evans, Leonard, Carruthers now? How did the loan signing of Wilson turn out?

I agree that the “in Wilder we trust” is complete bollocks which is used on here to try and win an argument.

I don’t trust Wilder to get every transfer right based on football ability. But I trust him to get it right when it comes to the personality of players and if they will fit into the group. So far I would say he has a 100% record on that.

I’m sure Wilder will have spoken to a few people in the game who have worked with Madine before he signs. But once a player arrives anything can happen and even the great managers have signed some flops over the years and Wilder will no doubt sign another flop or two in the coming years.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Behave yourself, for a starters Wilder is the one who blew up the situation with Madine and Sharp after it happened.

And whilst we are on the conversation of good signings

Evans
Leonard
Holmes
Carruthers
Heneghan
Thomas

I will leave out the frees that he signed but did you also think he got his loan signings correct?

Wilson
Woodburn
Cameron Carter Vickers

Everyone gets transfers wrong and wilder is the first to admit it, however the signing of Madine for me doesn’t have a high probability of being a success.

Personally I am over it now, I have had my wobble but if people can’t understand the risk behind this loan then I misjudged they entirely.

He's not going to be a regular starter unless he hits the ground running.
6ft 4 inches.it's obviously a plan B option,what's wrong with that.
Takes some bottle to come here with his history,don't admire his past but willing to give him a chance .If he joins we should back him he's served his debt to society.

 

[bartman]

Behave yourself, for a starters Wilder is the one who blew up the situation with Madine and Sharp after it happened.

And whilst we are on the conversation of good signings

Evans
Leonard
Holmes
Carruthers
Heneghan
Thomas

I will leave out the frees that he signed but did you also think he got his loan signings correct?

Wilson
Woodburn
Cameron Carter Vickers

Everyone gets transfers wrong and wilder is the first to admit it, however the signing of Madine for me doesn’t have a high probability of being a success.

Personally I am over it now, I have had my wobble but if people can’t understand the risk behind this loan then I misjudged they entirely.

I thought Carter-Vickers was OK up to his nightmare Fulham game.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I agree that the “in Wilder we trust” is complete bollocks which is user on here to try and win an argument

Almost. Its usually trotted out as a last desperate gambit once the argument has already been lost

 

[Nick Jansky]

I’ve just sent a turd in the post to McCabe

One of yours?

 

[robbiez666]

"The court was told Mr Hall, a Sheffield United fan, was left with a broken jaw and a fractured cheek after Madine asked him who he supported.

Bricklayer Mr Hall, who did not recognise the Wednesday striker, replied "United", and moments later he was punched in the eye.

He suffered a broken jaw and his cheek was fractured in five places"

So, let me get this straight, some Sheffield United fans want us to sign someone who broke a Sheffield United fan's jaw simply because he was a Sheffield United fan?

And some Sheffield United fans want us to sign someone who got done for GBH against a fan of the club he was playing for because he criticised him in public?

I have no issue whatsoever with us signing a player of Madine's ability. Scoring goals isn't everything and he's a huge asset for any club at this level. I have an issue with us signing Gary Madine.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Personally I am over it now, I have had my wobble but if people can’t understand the risk behind this loan then I misjudged they entirely.

All loans/ signings are risks when you’re looking to be clever by unearthing a player who can make a significant contribution.
The best way to lower that risk is to buy players in form with proven records but those players cost many millions (can’t be done)

Uniteds recruitment is quite unique and praised by many. We don’t just go out and buy a good striker or a good midfielder, instead we bring in players for a clear and specific purpose. Agree there’s a risk with Madine but Wilder will be well aware of this.

My concerns aren’t with people’s disapproval in this signing, there are many decent points why he shouldn’t be signed, fair enough, it’s only opinion. My concern is with the outraged social media monster creating a modern day version of the “pitch fork brigade”.

It’s a really sad part of human nature, seen the power of “the mob” in action many times in films. It builds up to a frenzy of hate, almost like bullying, people have this need to lash out and channel their hatred/ frustrations towards an easy target.

 

[Dkc]

No one's suggesting that Wilder and his staff don't carry out due dilligance on the ability and character of a potential target. But it's not disrespectful to suggest that they may have underestimated the fan unrest that the signing of Madine will bring.

 

[snootyfenooty]

I dont. Gbh is a very serious crime. Means you fcked someone up. Have to be an evil cnt to do that. Only pass is if the victim was a nonce.

GBH only becomes a crime due to the consequences. If you chin someone and give them a fat lip (or vice versa), no big deal. If you do the same but the punch is an inch lower you break their jaw and its GBH. Sometimes you knock them over and they crack their head on the pavement and its suddenly manslaughter. Very few people crack someone with the intention of disfiguring them or killing them. I've had scraps in my youth, strangely enough most around the age where Madine got caught. I've delivered few and stopped a few in the facial region. Apart from a bit of blood and a few lumps that was it, but it could have been a lot different if one of the punches delivered or taken was an inch or two either way. I'd say quite a few on here will own up to the same, even those who are trying their level best to act as the moral guardians of the forum.

 

[Nick Jansky]

GBH only becomes a crime due to the consequences. If you chin someone and give them a fat lip (or vice versa), no big deal. If you do the same but the punch is an inch lower you break their jaw and its GBH. Sometimes you knock them over and they crack their head on the pavement and its suddenly manslaughter. Very few people crack someone with the intention of disfiguring them or killing them. I've had scraps in my youth, strangely enough most around the age where Madine got caught. I've delivered few and stopped a few in the facial region. Apart from a bit of blood and a few lumps that was it, but it could have been a lot different if one of the punches delivered or taken was an inch or two either way. I'd say quite a few on here will own up to the same, even those who are trying their level best to act as the moral guardians of the forum.

With hindsight its never not nobheaded behaviour is it? Actually most people probably haven’t done it. It never has been big, hard or clever, more to do with young idiots who can’t handle a drink.

 

[essexblade73]

With hindsight its never not nobheaded behaviour is it? Actually most people probably haven’t done it. It never has been big, hard or clever, more to do with young idiots who can’t handle a drink.

Spot on. Only tossers go out, have a beer and a fight as if its part of growing up. It isnt and shouldnt be.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

GBH only becomes a crime due to the consequences. If you chin someone and give them a fat lip (or vice versa), no big deal. If you do the same but the punch is an inch lower you break their jaw and its GBH. Sometimes you knock them over and they crack their head on the pavement and its suddenly manslaughter. Very few people crack someone with the intention of disfiguring them or killing them. I've had scraps in my youth, strangely enough most around the age where Madine got caught. I've delivered few and stopped a few in the facial region. Apart from a bit of blood and a few lumps that was it, but it could have been a lot different if one of the punches delivered or taken was an inch or two either way. I'd say quite a few on here will own up to the same, even those who are trying their level best to act as the moral guardians of the forum.

He knocked about a blade for being a blade and did him some damage. If that’s now acceptable to our club and some fans, then so be it, it’s not acceptable to me.

CW is the temporary guardian of the flame, nothing more, nothing less. Me & mine have supported the club since 1889, and will be supporting the club when he and his clique are pushing up daisies. CE was a different situation. GM is a c*nt, and I can call out a c*nt for being a c*nt.