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Finally the Kop back the team properly. I have done my time on there and sang my heart out during the eighties and nineties, and some of the Noughties. To me if you buy a ticket for the Kop you have a responsibility to live up to the past noise generation. It's the whole point of going on there it's not just for the cheap ticket. And sing decent songs otherwise we would end up like these fuckwits....
 



Finally the Kop back the team properly. I have done my time on there and sang my heart out during the eighties and nineties, and some of the Noughties. To me if you buy a ticket for the Kop you have a responsibility to live up to the past noise generation. It's the whole point of going on there it's not just for the cheap ticket. And sing decent songs otherwise we would end up like these fuckwits....


Agree completely. I've been a season ticket holder on the Kop for years and will continue to add to the noise. It's really special when we bring the atmosphere.
 
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When the Kop increases its leg room beyond this ridiculous level, I’ll be with you mate...
 
It definitely does fire the players up too. Norwood on the Derby game: "The fans realised how much we needed them and without being patronising, we need that atmosphere more often. Of course it's down to us as players, but it really does make the world of difference. They drove us on"...
 
It definitely does fire the players up too. Norwood on the Derby game: "The fans realised how much we needed them and without being patronising, we need that atmosphere more often. Of course it's down to us as players, but it really does make the world of difference. They drove us on"...

Great to hear that from him. He's gone up in my estimation a bit. None of them should be afraid to ask for more from the supporters. In fact I wish they'd continue to drive the message home in every single interview. Because a loud, hostile Bramall Lane is a huge difference maker.
 
Great to hear that from him. He's gone up in my estimation a bit. None of them should be afraid to ask for more from the supporters. In fact I wish they'd continue to drive the message home in every single interview. Because a loud, hostile Bramall Lane is a huge difference maker.

Deano: We need to make Bramall Lane a tough, tough place to come to, because when the atmospheres like that I honestly think were unplayable.The support was unreal at times, if we could replicate the second half backing in the first, it would really get us going..."
 
Like many I started my supporting on the Kop and stood there for many years. Moved to John Street back in the 70s together with my mates.

Have to say that the noise from the Kop in both the Derby and Blackburn games was terrific and noticeably better than previous games. I've no doubt that it has an effect on the team and hopefully we'll keep it up.

The atmosphere at the Lane when the team is going for it has always been something special.
 
Great to hear that from him. He's gone up in my estimation a bit. None of them should be afraid to ask for more from the supporters. In fact I wish they'd continue to drive the message home in every single interview. Because a loud, hostile Bramall Lane is a huge difference maker.

Sir William of Sharp: "The fans fans can help us and they certainly created a better atmosphere than previous home games and we'd like to thank them for that. ...their backing goes a long way, the lads recognised that after the game and it gives the players confidence to see the game out". All quotes from yesterday's programme by the way.
 
Sir William of Sharp: "The fans fans can help us and they certainly created a better atmosphere than previous home games and we'd like to thank them for that. ...their backing goes a long way, the lads recognised that after the game and it gives the players confidence to see the game out".

These quotes are probably worth their own thread. As many fans as possible should read them.
 
Il stick to the south/Westfield or BLUT, can still have a decent sing song, closer to the away fans, more leg room, better facilities at half-time, no weed cloud when you go for a piss, oh, and no fucking great posts blocking part of the view, oh, and I don't get the sun in my eyes.
I used to go on the kop all the time, now it's not for me.
But if it's your cuppa tea, enjoy it!
 
SIDDARD !

Got up for a piss yesterday about 20 minutes in, and then went to the bar at 40 minutes.

All you could hear was ‘tut, tut, sigh, fucks sake, tut’

Pardon me for needing a fuckin piss (family stand by the way).

No sooner have we scored, everyone is already sat back down. It’s so conditioned on there to be sedate it’s unreal. Even the steps off the concourse to the pitch have warnings on them -

No swearing
No rude gestures
No standing

Fuck off. Boring bastards. And no, I don’t sit there often. Nor will I make a habit of it (the bar staff are pathetic).

There’s also a little lad sits on there who really ought to keep his opinions to himself. “Why can’t we shoot? Lionel Messi would shoot” - that’s not Lionel Messi pal. “Why don’t you defend it better?” - I’m sure he would if he could.
 



I think we should have a re-think about future developments and extend the Kop before we extend the South stand. The Xmas fixtures have made me realise how important a Kop stand in full voice is to us as a fanbase and how it can benefit the team in its hour of need. In it’s current form the Kop is simply not good enough to be part of a modern football stadium It’s poor sight lines, shite concourse facilities, shallow rake have resulted in many Kop stalwarts voting with their feet and like myself sitting in Westfield/BLUT.
 
Was talking about this to Andy Birks last year when he was COO. He said that there were plans for both but that the South Stand option was preferable because they could keep the stand open for longer while they were doing the development. A lot of the work to put another tier on the south stand can be done without closing the stand. The kop would have to be completely shut for over a year. Anyway neither plan will be actioned until we are sestablished in the PL.
 
If the Kop was properly built, more would stand up, and the acoustics would be much better. Part of the reason so many sit now is because when stood up, your view can be obstructed by anyone 2 inches taller in front of you, due to the stupidly shallow rake of the stand.

We've seen recently what a difference it can make when the fans on there can be arsed, but a new, optimally designed Kop could genuinely be our biggest asset. Bramall Lane would become the best proper football ground in the country.

But we'll put off rebuilding it properly for the rest of our lives and it'll be infuriating. We'll probably get a shitty bolt on bodge job in about 20 years time.
 
Was talking about this to Andy Birks last year when he was COO. He said that there were plans for both but that the South Stand option was preferable because they could keep the stand open for longer while they were doing the development. A lot of the work to put another tier on the south stand can be done without closing the stand. The kop would have to be completely shut for over a year. Anyway neither plan will be actioned until we are sestablished in the PL.
Maybe I’m cynical but the club would make more money from the south stand too by charging more for tickets.

Surely something could be done with the posts on the kop and the facilities without having to close the stand? That would be a start
 
Got up for a piss yesterday about 20 minutes in, and then went to the bar at 40 minutes.

All you could hear was ‘tut, tut, sigh, fucks sake, tut’

Pardon me for needing a fuckin piss (family stand by the way).

No sooner have we scored, everyone is already sat back down. It’s so conditioned on there to be sedate it’s unreal. Even the steps off the concourse to the pitch have warnings on them -

No swearing
No rude gestures
No standing

Fuck off. Boring bastards. And no, I don’t sit there often. Nor will I make a habit of it (the bar staff are pathetic).

There’s also a little lad sits on there who really ought to keep his opinions to himself. “Why can’t we shoot? Lionel Messi would shoot” - that’s not Lionel Messi pal. “Why don’t you defend it better?” - I’m sure he would if he could.

First of all, very few take any notice of the no swearing rule, second of all it's a family stand designed to encourage parents to introduce their children to the Blades without having to be surrounded by some of the aggressive foul mouthed twats we have as supporters.

You appear to consider yourself a bit of a ' Bigger Blade' with your criticism of people who come along to watch the game and prefer to keep watching it rather than bugger off for a piss getting in everyones view as they do.

I started watching the Blades when Hagan was playing for them, over the years I've followed them all over the country and stood shouting for them.
My mate and I stopped going to away games because of young twats who think they're their be all and end all of supporters. On the last occasion we went away I got into an argument with a wanker who insisted on standing in front of us. When he said to me that ' If I was a Blade I'd stand ' I pointed out to the twat that I'd been standing watching the Blades before he was born.

when you get old pal if you're still following United you might change your mind.
 
First of all, very few take any notice of the no swearing rule, second of all it's a family stand designed to encourage parents to introduce their children to the Blades without having to be surrounded by some of the aggressive foul mouthed twats we have as supporters.

You appear to consider yourself a bit of a ' Bigger Blade' with your criticism of people who come along to watch the game and prefer to keep watching it rather than bugger off for a piss getting in everyones view as they do.

I started watching the Blades when Hagan was playing for them, over the years I've followed them all over the country and stood shouting for them.
My mate and I stopped going to away games because of young twats who think they're their be all and end all of supporters. On the last occasion we went away I got into an argument with a wanker who insisted on standing in front of us. When he said to me that ' If I was a Blade I'd stand ' I pointed out to the twat that I'd been standing watching the Blades before he was born.

when you get old pal if you're still following United you might change your mind.

No ‘bigger Blade’ sentiment from me. Never will be. I go when I can and do what I can.

What bothered me was the tutting when I went for a piss and came back. ‘Blocking the view’ is hardly worth mentioning is it. It’s a few seconds each way. It’s not about ‘buggering off for a piss’ either is it? I mean come on, I don’t pick and choose my piss times.

As for your issue at an away game, I keep saying it - offer to change seats with the troublesome individual. He gets to stand and you get an uninterrupted view. Simple solution which keeps all parties happy. If you can’t offer that then I’d argue you’re the “wanker” as you state above.

People stand and people sit. That’s why we have the kop and family stand. Away matches there isn’t that option. But why should you get privelige over that younger fan? You’ve done it before so you know why he’s doing it. Bit unfair of you to deny him the opportunity you had.
 
Got up for a piss yesterday about 20 minutes in, and then went to the bar at 40 minutes.

All you could hear was ‘tut, tut, sigh, fucks sake, tut’

Pardon me for needing a fuckin piss (family stand by the way).

No sooner have we scored, everyone is already sat back down. It’s so conditioned on there to be sedate it’s unreal. Even the steps off the concourse to the pitch have warnings on them -

No swearing
No rude gestures
No standing

Fuck off. Boring bastards. And no, I don’t sit there often. Nor will I make a habit of it (the bar staff are pathetic).

There’s also a little lad sits on there who really ought to keep his opinions to himself. “Why can’t we shoot? Lionel Messi would shoot” - that’s not Lionel Messi pal. “Why don’t you defend it better?” - I’m sure he would if he could.
I think you’ve answered your own question.
You shouldn’t sit in the family stand.
 
I think we should have a re-think about future developments and extend the Kop before we extend the South stand. The Xmas fixtures have made me realise how important a Kop stand in full voice is to us as a fanbase and how it can benefit the team in its hour of need. In it’s current form the Kop is simply not good enough to be part of a modern football stadium It’s poor sight lines, shite concourse facilities, shallow rake have resulted in many Kop stalwarts voting with their feet and like myself sitting in Westfield/BLUT.

Unfortunately it needs demolishing completely and rebuilding from scratch. Unfortunately I very much doubt that will happen!
 
First of all, very few take any notice of the no swearing rule, second of all it's a family stand designed to encourage parents to introduce their children to the Blades without having to be surrounded by some of the aggressive foul mouthed twats we have as supporters.

You appear to consider yourself a bit of a ' Bigger Blade' with your criticism of people who come along to watch the game and prefer to keep watching it rather than bugger off for a piss getting in everyones view as they do.

I started watching the Blades when Hagan was playing for them, over the years I've followed them all over the country and stood shouting for them.
My mate and I stopped going to away games because of young twats who think they're their be all and end all of supporters. On the last occasion we went away I got into an argument with a wanker who insisted on standing in front of us. When he said to me that ' If I was a Blade I'd stand ' I pointed out to the twat that I'd been standing watching the Blades before he was born.

when you get old pal if you're still following United you might change your mind.
And this is why the football will be dead in 10 years. Because In that stand you all think you’re better than all the “foul mouthed twats” the kids won’t know that it’s part and parcel of football atmosphere. All you’re doing is creating mild mannered, lilly livered non aggressive snowflakes and turning football fucking sterile.

And if you’re going to take up one of the limited amount of tickets for away games then fucking stand and support the team. You have a job to do.
 
First time I'd been on there for about 4 years on Saturday, I normally sit on the Westfield Corner. The Kop has the best atmosphere, its full of passionate blades and I really enjoyed that. I hated no leg room, a 6 ft 3 bloke in front of me who I had to bob my head round constantly, a pillar blocking the touchline down the left, and the shambles that is the kiosk staff at half time, absolutely fooking useless. Other than that it was a great day out!
 
Tony Mowbray;

“It’s a tough place to come because their atmosphere is brilliant, they can impact officials, as they did today, & the crowd have the ability to suck the ball into the back of the net from the stands’.

A few week ago some snowflake on here was arguing that vocal support was silly and should be allowed to die out. Worse still, some others backed it.

When you get up and walk out with “ten to go”, you are letting the team down.
 
Tony Mowbray;

“It’s a tough place to come because their atmosphere is brilliant, they can impact officials, as they did today, & the crowd have the ability to suck the ball into the back of the net from the stands’.

A few week ago some snowflake on here was arguing that vocal support was silly and should be allowed to die out. Worse still, some others backed it.

When you get up and walk out with “ten to go”, you are letting the team down.

Honestly the argument that “atmosphere makes no difference” is absolutely redundant. We’ve seen that in the last two games.
 
No ‘bigger Blade’ sentiment from me. Never will be. I go when I can and do what I can.

What bothered me was the tutting when I went for a piss and came back. ‘Blocking the view’ is hardly worth mentioning is it. It’s a few seconds each way. It’s not about ‘buggering off for a piss’ either is it? I mean come on, I don’t pick and choose my piss times.

As for your issue at an away game, I keep saying it - offer to change seats with the troublesome individual. He gets to stand and you get an uninterrupted view. Simple solution which keeps all parties happy. If you can’t offer that then I’d argue you’re the “wanker” as you state above.

People stand and people sit. That’s why we have the kop and family stand. Away matches there isn’t that option. But why should you get privelige over that younger fan? You’ve done it before so you know why he’s doing it. Bit unfair of you to deny him the opportunity you had.

I always have a couple of drinks before the match, then I go for a pee just before taking my seat and then go again at half time. If I can manage that in my seventies why can't you? Unless you have a medical condition needing to go twice in the first half seems excessive.

Offering to change seats wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for the fact that just about everyone was standing. So hardly a solution is it?

As for me ' doing it before ' I stood when it was standing, but because of the reckless behaviour of a minority of fans over the years standing has supposedly been banned and seats are provided for everyone. Deciding that you are going to ignore the rules and stand anyway whatever the inconvenience to your fellow supporters is pure selfish entitlement behaviour which has become commonplace in this country over the past number of years.

I believe that safe standing areas should be provided in order to allow those who prefer to stand to do so but until then supporters need to try to understand it's not all about them and other people are being inconvenienced so that they can do what they want, despite it being against the rules.
 



And this is why the football will be dead in 10 years. Because In that stand you all think you’re better than all the “foul mouthed twats” the kids won’t know that it’s part and parcel of football atmosphere. All you’re doing is creating mild mannered, lilly livered non aggressive snowflakes and turning football fucking sterile.

And if you’re going to take up one of the limited amount of tickets for away games then fucking stand and support the team. You have a job to do.

' Job to do' you daft prat. People who consider foul mouthed aggression a necessary part of following football are pathetic. Encouraging youngsters to follow their team and passionately shout encouragement is one thing, exposing them to the raw hatred spewed out by imbeciles toward other football supporters and opposing players is simply abhorrent.

You need to get a grip pal. Do you know why sport is such a wonderful thing? Its because it's the only thing in life that means absolutely everything, and at one and the same time absolutely nothing.

Lose that and allow it to become more important than the reality of family, friends, health, and life in general then you lose the whole point of it.
 

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