Loyalty Points debate

[Canterbury Blade]

You are right this has been done to death. At the end of the day if your like me you will try and get a ticket by hook or by crook. Once I have the ticket in my hand its all forgotten on how I got it. I’m there supporting the boys.

Does anybody know how any other clubs manage this situation that would be fairer.

I know on the Wolves Website you can buy an away season ticket.

Ipswich do the same but allow you to return up to 3 tickets per season to the club to sell on to others. I think the season ticket also offers a season ticket coach option too.

Barca allow members to return and the club resell their home too. You get 80% of the price back so the club makes 120%. A good deal if you can’t get to every game but still want to know you can go when you want.

Can’t quite see the Ipswich demand being similar to that of The nou camp but shows some clubs have flexible and forward thinking approaches. Loyalty points has now become about who you know for those of us who can’t get to every away game, especially for those of us who live so far away for whom public transport becomes impossible and especially so when Sky come along..

 

[Selly]

Ipswich do the same but allow you to return up to 3 tickets per season to the club to sell on to others. I think the season ticket also offers a season ticket coach option too.

Barca allow members to return and the club resell their home too. You get 80% of the price back so the club makes 120%. A good deal if you can’t get to every game but still want to know you can go when you want.

Can’t quite see the Ipswich demand being similar to that of The nou camp but shows some clubs have flexible and forward thinking approaches. Loyalty points has now become about who you know for those of us who can’t get to every away game, especially for those of us who live so far away for whom public transport becomes impossible and especially so when Sky come along..

Sounds to me like a recipe for the tickets ending up on the black market. People would simply take the ticket and sell it on to mates - a club with the away following size we have at the moment would have (as evidenced by this thread) plenty of people willing to circumnavigate the system to
a) make sure they aren`t left with a ticket they cant use
b) make sure they can get a ticket "no matter what"

 

[BanbridgeBlade]

Anyone that wants to take a youngster/family member to a first game we have an FA Cup tie coming up against Barnett offering a chance to get registered and 150 points towards the total required for your Leeds/Pigs ticket next year.

Just saying like

1 week after Christmas, expensive flights, work commitments. Not everyone who was trying to get tickets for pigs & Leeds live in Sheffield so it isn't as black & white as that.

Just saying like

Also, for the record, I agree with the Loyalty points system for away games. Even if it works against me.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Sounds to me like a recipe for the tickets ending up on the black market. People would simply take the ticket and sell it on to mates - a club with the away following size we have at the moment would have (as evidenced by this thread) plenty of people willing to circumnavigate the system to
a) make sure they aren`t left with a ticket they cant use
b) make sure they can get a ticket "no matter what"

Yes. But that's what happens now doesn't it? The person who uses the SUFC away ticket will not necessarily be the person who was named when the ticket was purchased. Groups of fans manage groups of loyalty numbers. "Who needs one for Ipswich? Who is not going?" - text message comes around as soon as sales are announced. The Gangmaster works out whose number will be used for whose ticket. In some groups a long time season ticket holder has a ticket bought for them for every away game, but they never attend the game. Someone else, not always the same someone, uses the away ticket

 

[CarlingBlade]

To add to this anyone with a corporate season ticket has priority over anyone with points.

I think they need to start deducting points older than 10yrs, i've got 35k points, i've been a season ticket holder for 10yrs, been going to matches for 30yrs, did all the away games in my late teens and early 20's, now i've got kids etc so might get to 2 away games a season.

I'd had no issues with points older than 10yrs (maybe less) being deducted from my total, there are possibly youngens into it who can't get to matches like Forest away etc as they're only been going a few years, whereas i don't need the amount of loyalty points i have and would rather someone just getting into it was given preference if they want to go to Reading Away when its on Sky, or Brentford away midweek, they're the ones who deserve the points.

 

[Killamarshblades]

I might be wrong, but isnt there only Rotherham, Forest and Derby that we've actually sold out?? Ive only had chance to go Boro QPR Bolton and Millwall Reading and there were tickets left available for each of those. They'll be plenty left for Ipswich, Swansea (which i think will move to Sunday) and we'll have 5k for wigan, so anyone wanting to go to those next three games will get a ticket.

The loyalty system works fine. It does reward people who went to every game 10/11/12 years ago but that's ok, they get to go to Rothers, Pigs, but for me they deserve it as they've accumulated the points over the years.

Apart from the three seasons under Wilder, tickets for away games havent been hard to get hold of at all.

 

[SB_90]

luckily for me loyalty points have been introduced since ive been been going to regular away games. I only remember a queue under old system twice, once was my mum queuing up for the leeds 2003 quarter final for ticket for me & me sat in deckchair at 5:30am on pavement for wolves play off final

but loyalty points still create queues I remember the mk dons games when we took more fans than home fans. I was part of a 2 id queued for 90mins had to leave for a 2 hr driving lesson, was amazed when I text my auntie she was still queueing & told me to bring lunch. got back to queue, waited another 45mins

 

[SW12 to S12 to S18]

Returning from Southampton (Dell) at break neck speed to join an already largish queue for Blackburn away cup game,with only 500 tickets available. Got to Lane to queue at 8pm with ticket office due to open at 9am Sunday. Thankfully allowed us to queue,eventually, inside south stand and from memory sold us tickets around 2am, unbelievably!

Managed get one otherwise my feelings would well and truely have been voiced!!

I went to Southampton on the coach and was back in time to join the queue. I think they opened up early to prevent any deaths in the queue as it was extremely cold and windy that night and there were already more people there than tickets available.
I got one of the last few tickets.

 

[Basing Blade]

Temporary current season points, based on the amount of away games that you go to during the current season.
Say 5000 per game. That means 8 away games booked gives you 40,000 points to get a Wendy away ticket.

Current loyalty, going regularly away, should be rewarded.

 

[Gannon's perm]

Temporary current season points, based on the amount of away games that you go to during the current season.
Say 5000 per game. That means 8 away games booked gives you 40,000 points to get a Wendy away ticket.

Current loyalty, going regularly away, should be rewarded.

This is an interesting idea. The problem at the moment is the system discriminates against younger fans. Those in the 7-14 age group have no chance of getting tickets for the big away games and no chance of catching up.

 

[prince albert]

This is an interesting idea. The problem at the moment is the system discriminates against younger fans. Those in the 7-14 age group have no chance of getting tickets for the big away games and no chance of catching up.

plenty of them at northampton and at pigsboro last season.

 

[Gannon's perm]

plenty of them at northampton and at pigsboro last season.

They were, most probably used a family member/ friends points and thus charged adult prices.
My lad's 13, season ticket for 10 years, few away games each year. Still only 35k points. Thus had to use my mates points to get a ticket.

 

[bartman]

luckily for me loyalty points have been introduced since ive been been going to regular away games. I only remember a queue under old system twice, once was my mum queuing up for the leeds 2003 quarter final for ticket for me & me sat in deckchair at 5:30am on pavement for wolves play off final

but loyalty points still create queues I remember the mk dons games when we took more fans than home fans. I was part of a 2 id queued for 90mins had to leave for a 2 hr driving lesson, was amazed when I text my auntie she was still queueing & told me to bring lunch. got back to queue, waited another 45mins

That was because the computer systems went down all morning

 

[Sean Thornton]

That was because the computer systems went down all morning

Or as it's better known ticket office manager too pissed after a heavy night to let other staff in.....

 

[Piddie]

This is an interesting idea. The problem at the moment is the system discriminates against younger fans. Those in the 7-14 age group have no chance of getting tickets for the big away games and no chance of catching up.

This is the problem I have. I have got 30k loyalty points but my teenage lad who has only had a season ticket for 6 years has less than 10k points. So we have to wait until towards the end of sale and then miss out like we did for Forest and Rotherham.

I think you should be allowed to link one childs account to one adults account. Then that adult can buy an adult and junior ticket when the adult qualifies for the corresponding day of points.

I also think they should take into account how many points are awarded based on distance and maybe even kick off time. Like Reading on Saturday, we travelled over 400 miles in the round trip and didnt get home until gone 11pm. Surely that should be rewarded more than a 20 minute trip to Rotherham.

 

[Killamarshblades]

Temporary current season points, based on the amount of away games that you go to during the current season.
Say 5000 per game. That means 8 away games booked gives you 40,000 points to get a Wendy away ticket.

Current loyalty, going regularly away, should be rewarded.

How would that even work at the start of the season, just a free for all for the first away game?? What if Pigs away is first game?? Doesnt really work does it imo.

 

[Killamarshblades]

This is an interesting idea. The problem at the moment is the system discriminates against younger fans. Those in the 7-14 age group have no chance of getting tickets for the big away games and no chance of catching up.

Like I said in an earlier post, we've only sold out three away games this season! So plenty of chance to go to games

 

[Shalalalafenoughty]

It was very cold queuing so the South Stand was opened for us to get in and a drunk Blade wanted a fight with one of the stewards because he had an issue with him in a previous match (I was trying to calm him down but he swung a punch and just missed my head!). He was persuaded to calm down but a few minutes later he went berserk again before being thrown out.

The way for you of all people to calm him down, Silent, would have been to inform him that this was the first time the South Stand had been opened for such a purpose but there were previous instances in 1936 and 1968 when the club had taken similar action using the John Street Wing Stand and the mobile ticket caravan respectively, that as far as you were aware this was the fifth instance of drunken fans wanting to assault stewards following similar incidents in 1925, 1948 (twice) and 1958 and then to have given him all recorded examples of United supporters having had too much to drink.

He'd have been docile and fast asleep in no time.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Reset the fuckin lot. Then you don’t have people crying out that they went to Torquay in 1953 in the back of a Tuk-tuk in the piss down rain with no food for 4 days yet got no loyalty points for it.

It all has to start somewhere.

I think it’s time to change it and wouldn’t have a problem resetting. I’ve got circa 32000 points but due to me not having membership or ST this year, they’re not ‘active’ so in effect I have none. That annoys me. But thems the rules in place.

 

[Sean Thornton]

This is the problem I have. I have got 30k loyalty points but my teenage lad who has only had a season ticket for 6 years has less than 10k points. So we have to wait until towards the end of sale and then miss out like we did for Forest and Rotherham.

I think you should be allowed to link one childs account to one adults account. Then that adult can buy an adult and junior ticket when the adult qualifies for the corresponding day of points.

I also think they should take into account how many points are awarded based on distance and maybe even kick off time. Like Reading on Saturday, we travelled over 400 miles in the round trip and didnt get home until gone 11pm. Surely that should be rewarded more than a 20 minute trip to Rotherham.

Your son should have 15000 points just for season ticket purchases alone.

 

[Rusty view]

Reset the fuckin lot. Then you don’t have people crying out that they went to Torquay in 1953 in the back of a Tuk-tuk in the piss down rain with no food for 4 days yet got no loyalty points for it.

It all has to start somewhere.

I think it’s time to change it and wouldn’t have a problem resetting. I’ve got circa 32000 points but due to me not having membership or ST this year, they’re not ‘active’ so in effect I have none. That annoys me. But thems the rules in place.

Was that when we untied the boats in the harbour and the tide took them all out. A story told to me my the old man.