I’m worried about Wednesday....

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United played better on Bouncing Day than Wednesday did on Boxing Day, but for a victory in this fixture to be officially deemed a massacre it has to be by a minimum of four clear goals.

That takes some doing, but with Wednesday's best keeper banished to the stands and a manager who thinks playing football in the defensive third is a good idea, it could be done.

l don't think United have had a better chance than this since Boxing Day, and I've been going to Hillsborough for 40 years, and to the Lane for almost 30.

From what I saw yesterday, it's doable, but it depends if Jos alters the team around in the interim. There's no chance of Westwood coming back, but he might bring Wildsmith in if Dawson repeatedly picks the ball out of the net against the Canaries. I guess it depends if the penny finally drops that he's not in Holland and Wednesday's defenders simply aren't good enough technically to play that way.

I'm confident the Blades will win, but to avenge Boxing Day United will probably need some help from Jos. Mind you, he is proving to be a very helpful manager, judging by recent results. ;)
was banished last season
 
As always, I'll take 1-0. It seems like a great chance to batter them, but so did last season at the lane and we drew.
 
Oi!!!!!!!

And some of us eventually moved to Sheffield. From what I've observed, a few individual traits to one side, folks are folks, no matter what the persuasion.

I think the renowned northern friendliness is a truism, so maybe that could be something to do with what's taken (mistakenly sometimes) as London indifference.
 
It's all relative. The normality of quaffing pink drinks in S8, is weirdness personified here in E15.
Any thoughts in E15 on people who chose their footwear to match their favourite coloured drinks too?
 
Is there any statistical evidence that teams that sack their manager or appoint a new manager suddenly play better? Or is it another of those things that is only true because so many people say it?
 
I’m not, they can’t go above us even if they do win 0-0.

Just hope we play well and billy gets his own back on the pitch...
 
If I remember rightly we thought last season was also the best chance we have had of giving them a hammering, but it's still great to be going into the game with a feeling" could this be the one" about 10 years ago we went three up at half time surely we all thought this is it, hold em for ten minutes and we could get a five nil win, ended up with a nervy 3-2 win, could it happen this time? One thing is certain I will be as nervous as fuck.
 
If I remember rightly we thought last season was also the best chance we have had of giving them a hammering, but it's still great to be going into the game with a feeling" could this be the one" about 10 years ago we went three up at half time surely we all thought this is it, hold em for ten minutes and we could get a five nil win, ended up with a nervy 3-2 win, could it happen this time? One thing is certain I will be as nervous as fuck.
I'll never forgive semi-pro for letting that chance slip we should have slaughtered them.
 



I’ve still got derby day nerves (even this early) but it’s nice to go into the game knowing we can lose but still be above them.
 
Is there any statistical evidence that teams that sack their manager or appoint a new manager suddenly play better? Or is it another of those things that is only true because so many people say it?

You mean ‘new manager syndrome’?

I’m a firm believer of this being true. Although I admit I saw it written about once and it turned out to be not true. Think the win % was around 35% for new managers.

Edit: in 2009-10 the win percentage was 32.6% in all 4 divisions in England and Scotland.
 
All this 'great chance to batter them' is all very piggish imho.

There are no games that can be taken easy and every week there's someone near the top that gets found out by someone near the bottom.

Add in the derby factor and it's all pie in the sky.

The one opportunity we had was at The Sty in 2006 when we ended up hanging on after what should have been a rout.
 
Is there any statistical evidence that teams that sack their manager or appoint a new manager suddenly play better? Or is it another of those things that is only true because so many people say it?

I think it's more about being unsure how a new manager will play.

For example, I thought that Wilder was over-cautious at the Lane last season as it was Jos' first game in charge.

It seemed to me that he went out not to lose.

My brother-in-law said to me that in his opinion it was inviting defeat, and but for that wonder save ...
 
If I remember rightly we thought last season was also the best chance we have had of giving them a hammering, but it's still great to be going into the game with a feeling" could this be the one" about 10 years ago we went three up at half time surely we all thought this is it, hold em for ten minutes and we could get a five nil win, ended up with a nervy 3-2 win, could it happen this time? One thing is certain I will be as nervous as fuck.
I’ve just googled that because I thought what are you on about, ten years ago?

It was, well nine away. Can’t believe it was that long ago, the older you get the faster time flies.

Frightening.
 
You mean ‘new manager syndrome’?

I’m a firm believer of this being true. Although I admit I saw it written about once and it turned out to be not true. Think the win % was around 35% for new managers.

Edit: in 2009-10 the win percentage was 32.6% in all 4 divisions in England and Scotland.
I believe it's something of a myth, although the statistic that should be looked at is win % of the new manager vs win % of the previous manager.
 
I believe it's something of a myth, although the statistic that should be looked at is win % of the new manager vs win % of the previous manager.

even that is subjective because how many games do you compare it over? comparing a bad spell or a few seasons to 5 or 10 games is hardly fair is it
 
Winning by four goals in this fixture takes some doing, and I think it's only been done four times in a century, twice apiece.
United might have done it on Bouncing Day, and the performance merited it, but the Blades were wasteful in front of goal. The Owls were terrible, but hit two out of nothing, really. The only one I saw was Boxing Day, and to be honest that result could never have been predicted before the game. It's just that everything went right for the Owls, and everything went wrong for the Blades that day. One of the best opportunities I think United had to gain revenge was the 1-3 at Hillsborough when Francis played that sweeper system. You don't get many opportunities like that in this fixture.
 
Don't like all this over confidence. Reminds me of 1979. We were top and they had not been that consistent. We all know what happened next.

Also before the Derby in 92. We transferred Agana and had the embarrassing situation of Brian Gayles transfer. They were flying but we took them apart and won 2 0.

let's wait and see!
 
I was discussing this with wednesday friend today. Despite he wasn't too willing cant think why. But i was saying despite being top of the league im not as confident you think & i feel it could be high scoring game because neither defence can keep a clean sheet to save their lives. That we need a 2 or 3 goal cushion to feel comfortable. As even 4-2 wigan were still in the game few chances for 4-3
 



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