Team with Coutts

[@samjohnson77]

Imagine - Coutts, fully fit and in great form.

Where does he sit in our midfield? Who would you drop, Norwood, Fleck, Duffy?

A very nice dilemma to have - can't see Norwood getting dropped nor Fleck, Duffs will be the one to make way I imagine but leaves us with less creativity in the final 3rd.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Imagine - Coutts, fully fit and in great form.

Where does he sit in our midfield? Who would you drop, Norwood, Fleck, Duffy?

A very nice dilemma to have - can't see Norwood getting dropped nor Fleck, Duffs will be the one to make way I imagine but leaves us with less creativity in the final 3rd.

Unless we go for a change of system (unlikely) and go to a back 4 or 'diamond' in which case we could accommodate all 4, I think Coutts will be back up/sub for Norwood/Fleck, there's no way we'd play him instead of Duffy, or at least we shouldn't IMO. And don't forget Lunny

 

[SwissBlade]

Ooh another thread on how we can fit all our midfielders in

 

[Blade for Sale]

Ooh another thread on how we can fit all our midfielders in

Which thread would you drop to accommodate this one though? You can never have too many good threads, but you don't want your best one shunted out to the left wing like Scholes.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Duffy will be the whipping boy. However, its unlikely that Coutts will be back to his old self for a while, if ever, so I wouldn't get in a tizz just yet.

 

[SwissBlade]

Which thread would you drop to accommodate this one though? You can never have too many good threads, but you don't want your best one shunted out to the left wing like Scholes.

I think the Norwood for Duffy thread needs dropping

 

[sheffielder]

Surely coutts needs a full pre season or two?

 

[@samjohnson77]

Ooh another thread on how we can fit all our midfielders in

Thanks for your valued comment.

 

[Sheffsteel]

In my view it’s quite simple really.

In the current system it’s Norwood playing the Coutts quarterback role taking the ball off the defence and controlling tempo.
So it’s either Norwood or Coutts and at the moment even if Coutts returns to his best, Norwood still edges it especially when you comsider his great set pieces.

Don’t think Coutts can play the Duffy role, the Duffy floating role needs someone who can dribble, shoot, has creativity and is comfortable with a free role floating around in all attacking midfield positions. The nearest we have is potentially a Woodburn type.
In the PL Edin Hazard is suited to this role and in the Championship think Luke Freeman would also be suited.

So the only way to get Coutts in the team is to change formation.
To be fair we do need to experiment with other formations, so could try Coutts playing along side Fleck with Duffy dropped.

 

[SwissBlade]

Thanks for your valued comment.

Thanks for creating another thread on the same subject

 

[bladesince64]

Couttsy could definitely fulfill the Duffy role and I think that will be his most successful position. He can carry the ball, he never loses possession, he can pass and move like nobody else in the currents quad.He also has a rocket of a shot of a shot which will become more of an assett to the goals tally as well.

I remember when he first started his wide right position linking up with Brayford passing and moving and he was awesome. He just couldn't keep it going for long spells at that time because of his injury issues.

He's never been asked to play further forward and he's always been used as a playmaker.

This is where he will play, mark my words.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Thanks for your valued bantar.

altered slightly - you took the bantar well though

UTB

 

[guancheblade]

Answer is simple for me...

Coutts is backup for now. But Duffy inevitably fades in games. I'd sub off Duffy for Coutts BUT move Fleck into the Duffy role, with Coutts and Norwood behind dictating the play.

Why? He can do almost everything Duffy does. IN fact I'd go as far as to say Fleck has a stronger ability to go past players with the ball. And when Fleck is getting into positions in the opposition area that is when he is at his best.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Imagine - Coutts, fully fit and in great form.

Where does he sit in our midfield? Who would you drop, Norwood, Fleck, Duffy?

A very nice dilemma to have - can't see Norwood getting dropped nor Fleck, Duffs will be the one to make way I imagine but leaves us with less creativity in the final 3rd.

It simply gives CW more options - as mentioned by others, it could mean a diamond in centre midfield, where even McGoldrick could be the top of the diamond and not Duffy.

What is becoming very prevalent speak of managers and coaches is the ability to change shape during a game to match or out fox the opposition. Just seems to be the way football is heading.

Out of interest, does anyone still play 4-4-2 these days?

UTB

 

[Ricky]

Norwood has shown us so far that he's likely to blow hot and cold over the course of a season.

Sometimes him and Coutts might play together, but more often than not it should probably be two of them battling for one position. This should mean we always have someone blowing hot in that position.

There's no ideal way of fitting in both of them in the current system. It's either one of them or changing to a back four.

 

[dc_blade]

Norwood has shown us so far that he's likely to blow hot and cold over the course of a season.

One poor performance out of six, a goal and three assists already. Hot and slightly less hot, maybe.

Great to have Coutts on his way back, but Norwood looks to be pretty clearly a better player.

 

[Topplayersleave]

Same thing that normal clubs do when they have competition for places.
Play those who are in form and let those left out fight for a place

 

[SteveBlade]

- Sharp - McGoldrick -
- Duffy -
Fleck - Norwood
- Coutts -
Stevens - JOC - Egan - Freeman
- Henderson -

I'd rather us keep our shape though for now. But good options to have.

 

[jt64]

Why do we need to talk about "dropping" anyone? First let's allow Coutts to get back match fitness, then see if he's still the player he was pre-injury, then if he is it's a great problem to have, and they can all rotate and allow each other to stay fresh

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Fook me there are some reyt walkies on here.

They're probably the people who would have argues that Xavi and Iniesta could play together as they were too similar....

Courts is one of the few PL quality players in our squad. You can't leave quality like that on the bench. We're not good enough to do that. You find a system to accommodate your best players. Afterall Tufty blagged himself a bumper pay rise this off season, so I expect him to have a plan which gets all our best players on the pitch at the same time!

 

[SUFC Guy]

Simples!

Play 1 striker with Duffy behind him.

-----------------Sharp/Goldenoldielox

------------------------Duffy

------------------Fleck ------- Coutts

----------------------Norwood

 

[Luke1993]

A midfield 3 of coutts, Norwood and fleck would allow fleck to push forward more, and also Norwood slightly more as well, both can cross a good ball if they find themselves in that position. But until there's a injury/suspension/lack of form and coutts is 100% fit, he's got to be on the bench. Helping to sure games up from 60/70 minutes.

 

[Punk Blade]

- Sharp - McGoldrick -
- Duffy -
Fleck - Norwood
- Coutts -
Stevens - JOC - Egan - Freeman
- Henderson -

I'd rather us keep our shape though for now. But good options to have.

Poor Bash

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Wilder will sell Coutts in Jan to solve the problem...................




























Sorry for giving Wilder ideas

 

[DronnieBlade]

For the next few weeks, it will be good for the gaffer, the player, and the team as a whole to “nurture” Coutts back in the side with 10-20 mins off the bench here and there.

His value / impact can be judged from here.

I think he is better than Norwood and will, ultimately displace him. But it will take time, and Norwood isn’t so bad to have is he ??

That said, his 2nd half performance against Brum was summat that cant be repeated too often as PC will be ready and willing to displace him.

Nice dilemma for the gaffer to have TBH.

Also not averse to having them both on and pushing Fleck in to the hole when Duffy is inevitably dragged after 70 ish.

Don’t see Woodburn having much of an impact at all, with a loan move elsewhere most likely in Jan.

UTB

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Fook me there are some reyt walkies on here.

They're probably the people who would have argues that Xavi and Iniesta could play together as they were too similar....

Courts is one of the few PL quality players in our squad. You can't leave quality like that on the bench. We're not good enough to do that. You find a system to accommodate your best players. Afterall Tufty blagged himself a bumper pay rise this off season, so I expect him to have a plan which gets all our best players on the pitch at the same time!

Had a sex change and first name is now Margaret

 

[Pinchy]

In the medium term it will be Roller, Ollie and Fleck. You don’t leave out your best player. That’s Paul Coutts.

 

[The Bladesman]

CW clearly has a good number of options available to him with newer players such as Norwood consistently putting in good performances and making it difficult for them to be left out. Can only be a good thing which from what I've read, Wilder relishes. We're only 10 games in so the thought of a fit and healthy coutts waiting in the wings is only a good thing. We all know what he is capable of and leading up to his injury last season, we looked menacing to everyone we faced. UTB!