Decent Blades players you'd completely forgotten about

[Carlton Blade]

I was shopping with the Mrs and during my day dreaming, for no reason whatsoever, David Tuttle came into my head.

Decent centre half that I'd totally forgotten had ever played for us.

Any others?

Quality player. But had a head like a toblerone and serial foul give awayerer.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Is Roger Nilsen too high profile for this? Foot like a traction engine

 

[I should coco]

As I patiently explained to coco (and he never replied to when I did)

You've made the argument many times, but are you sure it was me on that occassion? I don't normally miss the opportunity for an abusive response to you.

A shit team is a shit team. If they play on grass, carpet or snooker baize they are still a shit team.

Strangely, as soon as we got a decent manager and players (i.e the following season), our fortunes changed

And strangely the Desso that you hate so much, then allowed us to play a fast passing game.

Nobody disagrees with you that we lost a lot because we were shit. We are now not shit and the better pitch allows better football.

Maybe you need to get up to the Lane, lean over the hoardings and touch the Desso. It could be the start of a long and beautiful love affair....

 

[CrookesBlade]

Gary Speed. Thought he looked every bit a class above anyone else on the pitch when I saw him play. Same applies for Ugo Ehiogu who also, under Blackwell (even though Robson brought him in) was a big player for us.

Once Blades, Always Blades, RIP.

Agreed re Ehiogu. Thought he had only come for an easy pay day. Turned out to be a class above til he got injured.

 

[Deadly_D'Jaffo]

Graham Stuart.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Graham Stuart.

Good player bit seemed to ruin loads of counter attacks by running into someone or giving the ball away

 

[Revolution]

Agreed re Ehiogu. Thought he had only come for an easy pay day. Turned out to be a class above til he got injured.

Ehiogu's 26 games for us finished as follows:

Won: 16
Drew: 9
Lost 1

That's not a coincidence. A class act.

The only loss was the 0-1 defeat to the Pigs in 2008-9 when Mike Dean sent Kilgallon off for that high kick.

 

[pommpey]

And strangely the Desso that you hate so much, then allowed us to play a fast passing game.

Okay. Let me transpose that:

Peterborough United 1 - 3 Sheffield United (Cowshit Stadium)
Swindon Town 0 - 2 Sheffield United (Mudbath Lane)
Sheffield United 1 - 3 Bury (Fast, passing game)
Sheffield United 2 - 3 Colchester United (Fast, passing game)
Sheffield United 1 - 2 Milwall (Superduper Desso)
Sheffield United 2 - 4 Shrewsbury Town (Fast, passing game)
Scunthorpe 0 - 1 Sheffield United (The Anushole Ground)
Sheffield United 2 - 3 Peterborough United (Fast, passing game)
Colchester United 1 - 2 Sheffield United (Satan's Very Own Angry Bullet Spewing Hot Diahorrea Onto The Pitch Stadium)
Sheffield United 0 - 2 Wigan Athletic (Fast, passing game)
Doncaster Rovers 0 - 1 Sheffield United (Not a bad stadium. Pitch is a horror show in February though. And Jamie Murphy cracked in a 25 yarder the previous season with 10 men, but that's irrelevant … )
Sheffield United 0 - 1 Burton Albion (Fast, passing game)
Chesterfield 0 - 3 Sheffield United (For Fuck's Sake The ref's gotta call this one off Stadium)
Shrewsbury Town 1 - 2 Sheffield United (Jesus fucking Christ. Get Me Wellies Ground)
Sheffield United 0 - 2 Scunthorpe (They like playing a Fast, passing game on the Superduper Desso, do Scunny)

Oh, and

Sheffield United 0 - 1 Morecambe (Fast, passing game)

Nobody disagrees with you that we lost a lot because we were shit. We are now not shit and the better pitch allows better football.

And the conflation of the two is music to the ears of those predisposed to believe the fuck out of anything McCabe says. The proof is thus:

We won away with a shit team on shit pitches.

Fuck me, Plato would have a field day with this logic.

Maybe you need to get up to the Lane, lean over the hoardings and touch the Desso. It could be the start of a long and beautiful love affair....

And I reinforce - I like it. It's fucking superb, both in content and it's technology. It gives us a world class playing surface. But my argument stands. Why have a world class playing surface at home when you have a shit team who can just as well turn it on on cowfields? First season with Wilder we lost away at Bolton (on a Superduper Desso) yet won away on countless other cowfields and ended up as Champions.

Pitch or players?

pommpey

 

[TTMeysh]

That should of course be Tranmere!

I was going to say I don't remember us dipping into the RAF Fighter Command League.

 

[torridon]

I was going to say I don't remember us dipping into the RAF Fighter Command League.

 

[Pinchy]

I'll just leave this here, lovey

Peterborough United 1 - 3 Sheffield United (Cowshit Stadium)
Swindon Town 0 - 2 Sheffield United (Mudbath Lane)
Sheffield United 1 - 3 Bury (Superduper Desso)
Sheffield United 2 - 3 Colchester United (Superduper Desso)
Sheffield United 1 - 2 Milwall (Superduper Desso)
Sheffield United 2 - 4 Shrewsbury Town (Superduper Desso)
Scunthorpe 0 - 1 Sheffield United (The Anushole Ground)
Sheffield United 2 - 3 Peterborough United (Superduper Desso)
Colchester United 1 - 2 Sheffield United (Satan's Very Own Angry Bullet Spewing Hot Diahorrea Onto The Pitch Stadium)
Sheffield United 0 - 2 Wigan Athletic (Superduper Desso)
Doncaster Rovers 0 - 1 Sheffield United (Not a bad stadium. Pitch is a horror show in February though. And Jamie Murphy cracked in a 25 yarder the previous season with 10 men, but that's irrelevant … )
Sheffield United 0 - 1 Burton Albion (Superduper Desso)
Chesterfield 0 - 3 Sheffield United (For Fuck's Sake The ref's gotta call this one off Stadium)
Shrewsbury Town 1 - 2 Sheffield United (Jesus fucking Christ. Get Me Wellies Ground)
Sheffield United 0 - 2 Scunthorpe (They like playing on the Superduper Desso, do Scunny)

Oh, and

Sheffield United 0 - 1 Morecambe (who?)

As I patiently explained to coco (and he never replied to when I did) that's a fucking hatful of points (27) we just pissed away on our Superduper Desso pitch, y'think? Especially when we did so blummen well away on shitholes like Shrewsbury and Colchester, who'd already beaten us on the Desso.

So, take your theory and moisten it a little, make it into a liddle biddy torpedo shape, lie on your side, get relaxed, lift up one knee to your chest, take a breath and hold it, find your fart-piece and slip the motherfucker in. Push it deep, so it won't come out next time you come out with bollocks like you have done. The stats uphold my side of it. They refute yours. We played just as well away - in some cases better - on shitbox cowfields as we did on the wonder pitch. If you don't believe me, have another look. If you don't believe me even then, have another look. It won't change each time you do.

Strangely, as soon as we got a decent manager and players (i.e the following season), our fortunes changed. And here we are. In Wilder we trust.

Ta ra

pommpey

Only in PO1...

 

[I should coco]

Fuck me, Plato would have a field day with this logic.

Nah.

Like most other ancient philosophers, Plato maintained a virtue-based eudaemonistic conception of ethics. That is to say, happiness or well-being (eudaimonia) is the highest aim of moral thought and conduct, and the virtues (aretê: 'excellence') are the requisite skills and dispositions needed to attain it.

Pitch or players?

Shit players make shit teams. Putting them on good pitches does not make them less shit.

And I reinforce - I like it. It's fucking superb, both in content and it's technology. It gives us a world class playing surface.

I feel we are finally making progress. After 3 years the pitch is no longer the enemy and the symbol of despot McCabe's tyranical rule, but is now, in your own words "fucking superb".

Do you think we (both of us) can let this one go now?

There's loads of other stuff to argue about if you are worried we might get too lovey dovey.

 

[I should coco]

Only in PO1...

BF PO1?

 

[Nedski]

Jonas Wirmola

He was bloody good on Championship Manager 93-94

 

[Pinchy]

Like most other ancient philosophers, Plato maintained a virtue-based eudaemonistic conception of ethics. That is to say, happiness or well-being (eudaimonia) is the highest aim of moral thought and conduct, and the virtues (aretê: 'excellence') are the requisite skills and dispositions needed to attain it.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

.. his name came up in conversation in the boozer last week .. in the worst players to ever wear a Blades shirt subject

That's very harsh on Andy Walker .

His goal scoring record for us was better than one in three and I saw him have some excellent matches, particularly one down at Leicester in '96 when we beat them 2 - 0 and he was by far the best forward on the pitch .

 

[Jan Age]

That's very harsh on Andy Walker .

His goal scoring record for us was better than one in three and I saw him have some excellent matches, particularly one down at Leicester in '96 when we beat them 2 - 0 and he was by far the best forward on the pitch .

I agree deff not one of the worst and deff in the category of 'decent' but forgot about.

 

[davidblade]

Dean Hammond

that unseen work

 

[davidblade]

Gary Speed. Thought he looked every bit a class above anyone else on the pitch when I saw him play. Same applies for Ugo Ehiogu who also, under Blackwell (even though Robson brought him in) was a big player for us.

Once Blades, Always Blades, RIP.

Robson actually brought some good players to the Lane , problem was he couldn’t manage a wank.

 

[coaxingstar71]

That's very harsh on Andy Walker .

His goal scoring record for us was better than one in three and I saw him have some excellent matches, particularly one down at Leicester in '96 when we beat them 2 - 0 and he was by far the best forward on the pitch .

Pretty sure that the player being referred to by John Street West Terrace is Andy Barnsley, not Walker.

 

[coaxingstar71]

Paul Rogers - last player I think to be signed from a non-league side to play for a Premier League side?

Mike Trusson - always Edwards, Morris, Kenworthy and Hatton that get all the plaudits from that 1982 side. Remember him scoring twice in the last 3 minutes in a game at Northampton.

Peter Anderson.

 

[DifferentClass]

Tuttle also pops into my head occassionally. Michael Vonk too, probably because I find both their names funny.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Pretty sure that the player being referred to by John Street West Terrace is Andy Barnsley, not Walker.

Well spotted - I thought he was replying to Jan Age's suggestion but he wasn't .

I'm led to believe that ' my bad ' is the correct terminology to use in these situations.

 

[CarlingBlade]

I'm surprised Don Hutchinson hasn't got a mention, quite a few from the Kendall era get overlooked but it was definitely a great time to be a Blade.

 

[pommpey]

Nah. Like most other ancient philosophers, Plato maintained a virtue-based eudaemonistic conception of ethics. That is to say, happiness or well-being (eudaimonia) is the highest aim of moral thought and conduct, and the virtues (aretê: 'excellence') are the requisite skills and dispositions needed to attain it.

But Plato, being very much a pioneer of early Greek philosophical discourse and the tutor of Aristotle, utilised such dialects to for questions like:

• What is it that can properly be called 'true' or 'false'?

Did the purchase and installation of an artificial football pitch as considerable expense change the fortunes of Sheffield United football club, or was it really the engagement of a better strategic management partnership, and retaining/hiring decent players? Was the Desso pitch therefore by definition, a giant strategic mistake when we had a team full of shit players, including a back four so incompetent and broken, that their continued playing in or out of position provably contributed to our underperformance?

• What is the nature of the connection between the assumptions of a valid argument and its conclusion?

Did we beat teams away from home on shitbox cowfields and lose to teams at home (sometimes the same team) on the Superduper Desso?

• What is the nature of definition?

Fast, attacking football (i.e. under Nigel fucking Adkins)

Shit players make shit teams. Putting them on good pitches does not make them less shit.

Fuck me. The clouds break and the sun shines through!

I feel we are finally making progress. After 3 years the pitch is no longer the enemy and the symbol of despot McCabe's tyranical rule, but is now, in your own words "fucking superb".

I have never (check back) said the having or installing the Desso is by definition of its own creation or existence, 'shit'. I maintain it was a ridiculous gesture, at a time when we could have done with a couple of centre backs, being as we had McEveley and Brayford filling in between a hapless Collins and whoever else.

Do you think we (both of us) can let this one go now?

There's loads of other stuff to argue about if you are worried we might get too lovey dovey.

Tru dat

pommpey

 

[pommpey]

Only in PO1...

Great comeback.

pommpey

 

[John Street West Terrace]

That's very harsh on Andy Walker .

His goal scoring record for us was better than one in three and I saw him have some excellent matches, particularly one down at Leicester in '96 when we beat them 2 - 0 and he was by far the best forward on the pitch .

Pretty sure that the player being referred to by John Street West Terrace is Andy Barnsley, not Walker.

100% Andy Barnsley gents !!!

 

[Ryan Daley]

Paul Parker was pretty solid for us didn't play many mind and rated Marcelo too. Saunders was class above even though getting on. Kabba was exciting to watch too

 

[CrookesBlade]

Graham Stuart

 

[SheepdipBlade]

David Kelly - Overcame bone disease in his legs as a kid to make it as a pro. Scored 6 in 35 for us, and I seem to remember created loads with runs down the right. Also came back to BDTBL as a coach once he'd hung his boots up.