Stupid prices

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

But not based on reality. But please tell us how the optimum price will be close to £20 and how that would work for United now?

I think a £20 price would enable more parents to bring their kids on a regular basis and get them as fans for the long term. Even £20 is a lot to pay for someone on, or close to, the minimum wage. Theft of the game from the working man continues.

 

[DronnieBlade]

I think a £20 price would enable more parents to bring their kids on a regular basis and get them as fans for the long term. Even £20 is a lot to pay for someone on, or close to, the minimum wage. Theft of the game from the working man continues.

A FACT seemingly lost on the average Solicitor

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[DronnieBlade]

A FACT seemingly lost on the average Solicitor

You are of course, 100% correct.

Bigger picture.

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[Sean Thornton]

Read all of the comments on this solitary thread.

Get your head out the clouds and UNDERSTAND just exactly how many folks are priced out of going, when cheaper pricing would allow them to.

A high percentage of families work to a budget.

For a dad to take his son / daughter to this match, with a few add on costs such as drink,grub, programme etc. Your looking at £60-75 ish.

The AVERAGE net take home pay in South Yorkshire is around £400 per week.

MAKE THE CONNECTION !!!

Now. Optimum pricing.

The theory being at what pricing point does a club MAXIMISE its match day revenue. Which is I believe where your point is going.

The balance between attracting numbers over unit pricing.

I’m assuming you understand it’s not quite as straightforward as the attendance figures in isolation, due to additional sales of drink, grub, programmes, club shop, etc.etc.

I’m telling thee, basic mathematics concludes it’s cheaper than is currently being charged !!

And just for the record, IMHO !!!!

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If you haven't even considered the additional attendance, break even figure and income variance it's actually nothing more than a guess. And an uneducated one at best because all you've done is made it fit the twenty is plenty suggestion.

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[WhiteHawk]

I must admit, I don't even know what it costs at The Lane for a ticket for one match. I'd love it to be £20 a game but sadly that isn't the case. I think £30-£32 is about right personally. Apparently there were tickets at £110 in the Spurs end tonight

Compare football prices to this though. Want to go and watch the British Grand Prix at Silverstone next year? That's £210 for the cheapest grandstand ticket (just for the Sunday, not the full weekend), most expensive is £370. Would you like to park your car at the circuit for the day too? That'll be another £50.

Maybe you'd like to avoid the queues and get priority entry to the circuit? That'll be another £30 please.

Fancy having a walk round the circuit and checking out the action from the inside of the track rather than the outside? £40 please.

And finally, maybe you'd like a radio so you can listen to the circuit commentary? That'll be £10

 

[DronnieBlade]

If you haven't even considered the additional attendance, break even figure and income variance it's actually nothing more than a guess. And an uneducated one at best because all you've done is made it fit the twenty is plenty suggestion.

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Ignorance is bliss.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

I bet you spend a lot more money, or rather a lot of people will, at a cricket match than at BL.

Like-for-like day out at CC cricket compared to day out on the beer at BL, take your own beer and food into CC matches, is a lot cheaper than shelling out for beer and food in and around BL, the cost to get in is much cheaper at cricket, even a scorecard is only a quid compared to £3 for a programme. The only extra cost would possibly be travel to get there, which you'd get back on cheaper prices to get in anyway. Next year when Yorkshire are back in Sheffield the cost of travel then just becomes the same.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I think a £20 price would enable more parents to bring their kids on a regular basis and get them as fans for the long term. Even £20 is a lot to pay for someone on, or close to, the minimum wage. Theft of the game from the working man continues.

I'm not arguing for high prices obviously not suggesting £20 isn't reasonable but wondering about the effect on income for EFL clubs. Particularly United. I have total sympathy with those who can't afford it. But those spending money at the ground on overpriced shite beer and food but moaning about tickets prices might need to rethink their lifestyle choices.

 

[Sean Thornton]

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Ignorance is bliss.

You're trying to explain something I haven't queried. I simply asked how you got to £20 and you can't tell me. It's okay. Nothing wrong with guessing but under the circumstances suggesting someone else is dim is a bit much, even with your expertise on every level of football.

Heres something else you won't like to take on board. If twenty is plenty, who takes the hit on discounted season ticket prices? For paying up front?

Please try and answer something I've asked rather than something I haven't. For a change.

Like-for-like day out at CC cricket compared to day out on the beer at BL, take your own beer and food into CC matches, is a lot cheaper than shelling out for beer and food in and around BL, the cost to get in is much cheaper at cricket, even a scorecard is only a quid compared to £3 for a programme. The only extra cost would possibly be travel to get there, which you'd get back on cheaper prices to get in anyway. Next year when Yorkshire are back in Sheffield the cost of travel then just becomes the same.

The vast majority don't take their own beer or food though. Neither do they at Horse Racing.

 

[DronnieBlade]

I'm not arguing for high prices obviously not suggesting £20 isn't reasonable but wondering about the effect on income for EFL clubs. Particularly United. I have total sympathy with those who can't afford it. But those spending money at the ground on overpriced shite beer and food but moaning about tickets prices might need to rethink their lifestyle choices.

Interesting how you can accept the very same points I make here.

But not in direct response to moi !!!

Duly noted

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[SUFC Handsworth]

Nice one, 2 cheats in nearly 20 years (all hammered for their actions by the cricket world and banned) says it all compared to at least 2 cheats every 10 minutes, at every ground in the country every Saturday, and laughably that cheating is then justified by pundits in the television study and the authorities who let them get away with it week-on-week.

 

[bromtom]

It's a fair wedge of money for a plain adult ticket.

Junior Blades and Young Adults/Students prices are fine though, so if your kid fits into that that takes the sting out of it.

I think Pensioners concessions are a bit high to be honest. Should be closer to students.

Of course I'd love it to be 20 quid, but that ship has sailed and when I compare it to other entertainment, it doesn't compare for me. Costs me £18 to see an IMAX film at Cineworld but even if the film's good it's not like seeing United is it? I'd rather see United than go to the cinema a few times, whatever's on.

I'm poor as balls by the way should you think I'm just a rich bitch who doesn't care about those on low incomes because I'm about as low down as you can go.

 

[BladeInIreland]

I thought £31 for kop was a bit much. Probably be my only game this season so not gonna whinge too much.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Interesting how you can accept the very same points I make here.

But not in direct response to moi !!!

Duly noted

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I didn't reply to you on that point. As you well know.

 

[YES Blade]

Nice one, 2 cheats in nearly 20 years (all hammered for their actions by the cricket world and banned) says it all compared to at least 2 cheats every 10 minutes, at every ground in the country every Saturday, and laughably that cheating is then justified by pundits in the television study and the authorities who let them get away with it week-on-week.

You said no cheating, I’m just pointing out that it does happen. You can also add the Pakistanis that were jailed for match fixing as well.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

The vast majority don't take their own beer or food though. Neither do they at Horse Racing.

Can you back that up with some facts please? If it's just your opinion, can I ask how many CC games you attend each summer to make these claims? I go to plenty and I see plenty taking their own beer and snap. For those that don't take their own beer and food and pay at the ground, that's up to them, but they do have the option of taking their own. Football fans don't have the option and pay through the nose.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Not an exact science but I was planning on bringing Mrs M and our second born to the Villa game but at £36 and £18, we'll be sticking to just me and the boy... So there's two less band wagoners coming on Saturday!

 

[DronnieBlade]

Can you back that up with some facts please? If it's just your opinion, can I ask how many CC games you attend each summer to make these claims? I go to plenty and I see plenty taking their own beer and snap. For those that don't take their own beer and food and pay at the ground, that's up to them, but they do have the option of taking their own. Football fans don't have the option and pay through the nose.

Real world.

C C land.



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[SUFC Handsworth]

You said no cheating, I’m just pointing out that it does happen. You can also add the Pakistanis that were jailed for match fixing as well.

Cricket has it's problems, as do all sports, but any cheating is miniscule compared to the weekly farce that occurs at football. And let's be reyt you're just after a bit of petty point scoring because you were way off the mark suggesting football and CC cricket prices were similar.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Can you back that up with some facts please? If it's just your opinion, can I ask how many CC games you attend each summer to make these claims? I go to plenty and I see plenty taking their own beer and snap. For those that don't take their own beer and food and pay at the ground, that's up to them, but they do have the option of taking their own. Football fans don't have the option and pay through the nose.

So are you saying more people take their own food and drink?? Where are the FACTs for that?

I rarely go now but when I did, the people who took their own food tended to be the gentleman farmer types in tweed who shared a picnic basket, drank wine from a glass and ate of China plates whilst watching Yorkshire at Headingly or wherever. These people are still there, albeit with wine boxes and plastic glasses and cutlery. There are also limits for CCC games and a ban for internationals and T20

. How many is "plenty" btw.

Cricket takes a bit longer than 105+ minutes, slightly different for those that have small children admittedly but of course there's a choice. Eat and drink outside the ground beforehand.

The food available at even small racetracks is far better than at football. Some will take pack up but believe me, the vast majority don't. I'd still think cricket is no different.

 

[Harrisblade]

Can you back that up with some facts please? If it's just your opinion, can I ask how many CC games you attend each summer to make these claims? I go to plenty and I see plenty taking their own beer and snap. For those that don't take their own beer and food and pay at the ground, that's up to them, but they do have the option of taking their own. Football fans don't have the option and pay through the nose.

But surely Cricket Fans are there for the whole day and Blades fans for what - 3 hours top whack?
If you've been to a pub or a chippie first, is it essential to fill up again inside the ground?
Especially if you think the prices are too high.
Just say no!

 

[Sheffsteel]

Now. Optimum pricing.

The theory being at what pricing point does a club MAXIMISE its match day revenue. Which is I believe where your point is going.

The balance between attracting numbers over unit pricing.

I’m assuming you understand it’s not quite as straightforward as the attendance figures in isolation, due to additional sales of drink, grub, programmes, club shop, etc.etc.

I’m telling thee, basic mathematics concludes it’s cheaper than is currently being charged !!

And just for the record, IMHO !!!!

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The thing is every just about every club in England employ experts that study the data and makes an attempt at setting optimum pricing. Remember they are businesses and want to maximise income to help them compete against their competitors.

Everyone complains about the prices at S6 but their attendances have remained pretty good.

Everyone has an opinion but at the end of the day people who can afford will go, those that can’t will pick and choose matches.
If overall income from ticket sales, catering, advertising etc increases then SU know the price increase was valid.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

So are you saying more people take their own food and drink?? Where are the FACTs for that?

I rarely go now but when I did, the people who took their own food tended to be the gentleman farmer types in tweed who shared a picnic basket, drank wine from a glass and ate of China plates whilst watching Yorkshire at Headingly or wherever. These people are still there. How many is "plenty".

Cricket takes a bit longer than 105+ minutes, slightly different for those that have small children admittedly but of course there's a choice. Eat and drink outside the ground beforehand.

The food available at even small racetracks is far better than at football. Some will take pack up but believe me, the vast majority don't. I'd still think cricket is no different.

So you can't back it up with any facts, and you can't even base your half baked theory on the evidence of your own eyes as you freely admit you rarely go. How many times have you been this year? If your era for cricket was in the 70s or 80s, the regular sight was seeing plenty of normal working class blokes taking crates of their own beer in.

 

[YES Blade]

Cricket has it's problems, as do all sports, but any cheating is miniscule compared to the weekly farce that occurs at football. And let's be reyt you're just after a bit of petty point scoring because you were way off the mark suggesting football and CC cricket prices were similar.

It’s county championship cricket, you can’t even compare it to football. How many go to the matches? A thousand or two? It’s bound to be cheaper when there is little demand for tickets.

As for point scoring, you was the one who brought cheating into it, not me.

 

[Sean Thornton]

So you can't back it up with any facts, and you can't even base your half baked theory on the evidence of your own eyes as you freely admit you rarely go. How many times have you been this year? If your era for cricket was in the 70s or 80s, the regular sight was seeing plenty of normal working class blokes taking crates of their own beer in.

Can you? How many is plenty? Are we talking now or 30 years ago?

What's the maximum, 4 cans or bottles? None for internationals. One box of wine? That's not going to last all day unless Mumsnet has sponsored a stand.

 

[ChepstowBlade]

I'm not a big contributor to this forum, as you can see from my stats, although I do read it quite a lot. I do find it interesting how someone starts a new post, often contentiously and then lets it roll. I'd put this post into that category if I may be so presumptuous. Stephen, you remind me of an often contentious snooker player!! (Apologies if this has been covered somewhere in the post but I couldn't be arsed to read every post!!)

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

The ticket prices are fine compared to others, and haven’t changed much over the years. The reason the attendances have dropped is that the bandwagon fans have fell off not because of the prices

Aye but the miserable cunts will soon be whinging when they can't get a ticket @ t'sty

 

[Snowman]

Can I say that I am shocked. Living in my sheltered little South Stand world of a senior citizen season ticket, I didn't realise such prices existed for the Kop. I would think twice about paying that and I can afford it. Maybe the club could even things up by charging OAP's a bit more on the season ticket because I was also amazed that I could get one as soon as I hit 60 and not 65. We need more young fans not us coffin dodgers.

 

[oldblade]

It’s the world we live it, name me a form of entertainment that is getting cheaper or that can be described as cheap?

It's not getting cheaper, but it is a lot cheaper than football - the cinema.

 

[MobileBlade]

When tickets were 20-25 quid and we had those C games where it was a tenner, attendences were up at 28k on week nights.

So yes, I think they will.

Name a game when that happened.