The Real Problem at SUFC

[Maidenhead]

Do you think Wilder is happy with the squad as it is?

If the answer is 'No', then why on earth would he mot improve it if he had the resources available?

Because the resources required to significantly improve the team are more than those available from sales and other outgoings, and he's not going to "spunk moneh", maybe?

All supposition as it your previous supposition.

Only people with the answers are the clubs' board and management.

It's not worth us getting our knickers in a knot over.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Do you ever do research before you post?

Only Preston and Leeds spent more than us in the 05/06 season: we spent more than both Watford and Reading. (The teams that came up with us.)

That's a broad and unsubstantiated statement. It's you who hasn't done any research, I provided detailed figures in my post. Now perhaps you could do the same or shut up.

 

[Chali 2na]

That's a broad and unsubstantiated statement. It's you who hasn't done any research, I provided detailed figures in my post. Now perhaps you could do the same or shut up.

Oh, how did you substantiate your figures then smarty-pants?


You really are painfully dim.

 

[Chali 2na]

Because the resources required to significantly improve the team are more than those available from sales and other outgoings, and he's not going to "spunk moneh", maybe?

All supposition as it your previous supposition.

Only people with the answers are the clubs' board and management.

It's not worth us getting our knickers in a knot over.

Apologies, I should have said he wasn't adequately backed rather than saying he wasn't given the money to re-invest.

Your last 2 sentences should be stickies at the top of every thread

 

[Rodley]

Oh, how did you substantiate your figures then smarty-pants?


You really are painfully dim.

The lads struggling.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Oh, how did you substantiate your figures then smarty-pants?


You really are painfully dim.

From memory. I suggest you look them up and see where I was wrong. You'll be in for a long day.

The mudslinging and name calling is a predictable response when you've lost the argument. I suggest you join the other thread where the anti-Warnock brigade are competing for likes in seeing who can come up with the funniest insult.

 

[Chali 2na]

The lads struggling.

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Confidence is through the roof though.

 

[Chali 2na]

From memory. I suggest you look them up and see where I was wrong. You'll be in for a long day

As fantastic as your memory is, I used the figures on https://www.transfermarkt.com (It's not flawless, but a far more reliable than your memory by the looks of things )

The fact that you thought "from memory" is a good answer to the question "how did you substantiate your figures?" is really hilarious by the way.

The mudslinging and name calling is a predictable response when you've lost the argument. I suggest you join the other thread where the anti-Warnock brigade are competing for likes in seeing who can come up with the funniest insult.

Mudslinging and name-calling? That makes 2 of us pal.

"Painfully dim" should be a compliment for you anyway.

 

[super_pig]

The Brooks money is irrelevant. The transfer budget was set before Brooks was sold and Wilder himself has said the Brooks money hasn't been touched



We didn't "badly need midfielders". We needed a midfielder to replace Coutts. It was like buying 3 bangers in a car lot when he could have bought the 17 reg Golf for the same money. Wilder's record in the transfer market is abysmal.

it was a gamble that didn’t pay off .. the rest is OTT

 

[snootyfenooty]

As fantastic as your memory is, I used the figures on https://www.transfermarkt.com (It's not flawless, but a far more reliable than your memory by the looks of things )

The fact that you thought "from memory" is a good answer to the question "how did you substantiate your figures?" is really hilarious by the way.

You haven't provided any figures or challenged any of mine.

Mudslinging and name-calling? That makes 2 of us pal.

"Painfully dim" should be a compliment for you anyway.

Carry on, you're just demeaning yourself

 

[Esablade]

Oh, how did you substantiate your figures then smarty-pants?


You really are painfully dim.

I see you too are experience the joys of a chat with Snooty...

 

[Chali 2na]

You haven't provided any figures or challenged any of mine.

Ok, the total outlay (according to transfermarkt.com) in January 2006 was £2.36m. 13 years later, despite the massive inflation in football, Wilder spent £1.88m.

What now?

 

[snootyfenooty]

Ok, the total outlay (according to transfermarkt.com) in January 2006 was £2.36m. 13 years later, despite the massive inflation in football, Wilder spent £1.88m.

What now?

Sorry, lost interest now that dullards joined in.

 

[blade too long]

figures for outright purchases for players under 10m are virtually meaningless

egan cost us 4.1 million, on 20 k a week
is it a good price, only time will tell
but other clubs have spent 10 to 15m on players who have come no where near that valuation
the real cost nowadays to most club are the wage bills, these can totally outstrip any player worth up to 10m quid
50k a week which some are on is 10m on a 4 year deal
so you could buy a player for 2m and seem cheap but end up paying 10m in wages

fans will moan oh weve only spent 2m when in reality its 12m cost to the club

 

[Chali 2na]

Sorry, lost interest now that dullards joined in.

Don't you mean you lost interest since I provided the figures you asked for?

Are you going to admit you were wrong?

 

[snootyfenooty]

Don't you mean you lost interest since I provided the figures you asked for?

Are you going to admit you were wrong?

You didn't. You said we had the third highest budget. You're beginning to sound like you new bff esatroll.

 

[Chali 2na]

You didn't. You said we had the third highest budget. You're beginning to sound like you new bff esatroll.

Haha, incredible! Your ego outweighs your wit yet again.

This is almost as embarrassing as when you forgot the meaning of genocide!

 

[snootyfenooty]

Haha, incredible! Your ego outweighs your wit yet again.

This is almost as embarrassing as when you forgot the meaning of genocide!

Nice sidetrack. To get back on subject you said we had the 3rd highest budget and instead gave me a figure for United's transfer outgoings. Maybe you could try to be even more hilarious or you could answer the question and we can continue the discussion.

 

[Chali 2na]

Nice sidetrack. To get back on subject you said we had the 3rd highest budget and instead gave me a figure for United's transfer outgoings.

Me sidetracking? That's rich.

I'll remind you of this post, before any mention of United having the 3rd highest budget:

The one in 2005/6 when United were in a good position in January and the manager (who shall remain nameless for the sake of peace and quiet) got a bit of cash to spend for the first time ever which saw us through to the Premier league. Unlike the example we are discussing now where we went in the opposite direction, and are still heading that way.

You implied that Warnock made a better job of his January transfer window than Wilder's - I've explained to you that it's apples and oranges; despite 13 years of football inflation, Warnock had more money then than Wilder did last January, I even provided the figures.

Now you've decided you're arguing about something else, hence why I'm not source any more figures - I'd be wasting my time.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Me sidetracking? That's rich.

I'll remind you of this post, before any mention of United having the 3rd highest budget:




You implied that Warnock made a better job of his January transfer window than Wilder's - I've explained to you that it's apples and oranges; despite 13 years of football inflation, Warnock had more money then than Wilder did last January, I even provided the figures.

Now you've decided you're arguing about something else, hence why I'm not source any more figures - I'd be wasting my time.

Diidn't Warnock also buy Lucketti and Horsfield in that window? Fees may not show up for that season as they may have been early loan with an agreement to buy deals.

The majority of deals Wilder is having to make are what he termed 'punts'. So for example he paid half a million for Holmes in the hope performs at the level of a player who would cost £5 million. He knows a lot of moves won't come off but reckons his chances of success are better than 10/1. The discussions around signing Devante Cole in the deadline day video last year show how Wilder is having to carry out his business.

 

[Chali 2na]

Diidn't Warnock also buy Lucketti and Horsfield in that window? Fees may not show up for that season as they may have been early loan with an agreement to buy deals.

The majority of deals Wilder is having to make are what he termed 'punts'. So for example he paid half a million for Holmes in the hope performs at the level of a player who would cost £5 million. He knows a lot of moves won't come off but reckons his chances of success are better than 10/1. The discussions around signing Devante Cole in the deadline day video last year show how Wilder is having to carry out his business.

Precisely.

Warnock was given a fantastic budget that season, relative to the era. Wilder, as you mention, has been given a measly budget in comparison, which forces him to take gambles on players that can't possibly always come off.

 

[Grappler]

I would know a good player if I saw one. But supporting this club I'm never likely to see one

Which one do you consider a good player at your club?