What We've Got

[robbiez666]

The full list of senior players we have at our disposal:

Moore
Henderson
Baldock
Freeman
Stevens
Wright
Egan
Stearman
O'Connell
Basham
Lafferty
Bryan
Evans (won't play)
Lundstram
Fleck
Coutts *
Leonard
Duffy
Woodburn
Sharp
Clarke
McGoldrick

22 players with probably 19 available for Saturday

We can essentially loan 2 more before the end of August.

 

[Ricky]

It's a lovely squad - if finishing 18th is your aim.

Well done Wilder, well done everyone. Top effort.

 

[Stretch]

Why won't Evans play? Player transfers fall through so the time and they get over it.

If it's because he isn't deemed good enough then fair dos.

 

[robbiez666]

Apologies, I missed out Lavery but so did we when issuing squad numbers!

 

[robbiez666]

Why won't Evans play? Player transfers fall through so the time and they get over it.

If it's because he isn't deemed good enough then fair dos.

He's clearly deemed good enough as he played the first two games and Wilder 'picked his best side'.

I presume something has gone on behind the scenes as there's absolutely no rationale reason we'd sell him. If it's kicked off behind the scenes, I doubt Wilder will play him.

 

[Willie Carlin]

Norrington-Davies

 

[Jon Bon II]

Bumstead-Crapper

 

[robbiez666]

Norrington-Davies

I did list senior players and we've been told he's going out on loan (as is Slater). He's also never played a second of league football

 

[Chali 2na]

It's very thin, and we haven't had a good window.

If we sign 2 (good) players on loan, then it becomes 24/25 players, which would be adequate.

If not, then I worry we will struggle. I won't blame Wilder though: I'll blame the owners - they're the ones who need to be backing him.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

It’s a decent squad. Capable of punching its weight in the top half. It lacks one, possibly two players but is decent all the same.

The system and tactics are the issue. Address that and these players can get results.

 

[SteveBlade]

It’s a decent squad. Capable of punching its weight in the top half. It lacks one, possibly two players but is decent all the same.

The system and tactics are the issue. Address that and these players can get results.

I do still believe this to an extent.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I'd say with the exception of Egan who may well come good longer-term, we're weaker now as a squad that the end of last season. Genuinely.

 

[Roygbiv]

Our hopes rest on a couple of really good loan signings that will want paying good wages, an 18 year old loanee, a guy coming back from a broken leg and 3 strikers with a combimed age of 100.

 

[Harry's Game]

I'd say with the exception of Egan who may well come good longer-term, we're weaker now as a squad that the end of last season. Genuinely.

Woodburn May be better than Brooks but that is not certain.

 

[robbiez666]

It’s a decent squad. Capable of punching its weight in the top half. It lacks one, possibly two players but is decent all the same.

The system and tactics are the issue. Address that and these players can get results.

The squad is not good enough to be top half. Compare it to other squads. Wilder has got much more than the sum of the parts out of it. He's gradually been finding that harder and harder which has been reflected in the results.

We have 2 players (O'Connell and Fleck) who are top Championship players. Coutts could be if he regains his form and fitness but age is against him.

I can't imagine many more being considered good enough to be in a top 10 Championship team's starting line-up.

Whatever Wilder's issues of later, it has to be said that he's done minor miracles with the players at his command. Albeit, the quality of some of the players has to fall at his door.

 

[Stretch]

He's clearly deemed good enough as he played the first two games and Wilder 'picked his best side'.

I presume something has gone on behind the scenes as there's absolutely no rationale reason we'd sell him. If it's kicked off behind the scenes, I doubt Wilder will play him.

He was deemed good enough, but based on those performances that may have changed, and that may be the reason we accepted an offer. Or it may be that something has gone off. Or it maybe that [allegedly] we had Norwood lined up up loan but couldn't get it done in time so pulled the Evans deal.

 

[robbiez666]

He was deemed good enough, but based on those performances that may have changed, and that may be the reason we accepted an offer. Or it may be that something has gone off. Or it maybe that [allegedly] we had Norwood lined up up loan but couldn't get it done in time so pulled the Evans deal.

So a player deemed good enough to start the last two games is shipped out and replaced yet the person not good enough is still warming the bench? I'm not really grasping the logic here.

 

[Stretch]

So a player deemed good enough to start the last two games is shipped out and replaced yet the person not good enough is still warming the bench? I'm not really grasping the logic here.

Not quite following what you have posted there mate....? but I was just trying to point out that it is all speculation. If Wigan made a decent offer, maybe Wilder re-considered Evan's importance, especially after those 2 games, and considering that he isn't a new player settling in. Other factors like Norwood potentially coming in or [like you say] some kind of incident could also have influenced the decision.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

The squad is not good enough to be top half. Compare it to other squads. Wilder has got much more than the sum of the parts out of it. He's gradually been finding that harder and harder which has been reflected in the results.

We have 2 players (O'Connell and Fleck) who are top Championship players. Coutts could be if he regains his form and fitness but age is against him.

I can't imagine many more being considered good enough to be in a top 10 Championship team's starting line-up.

Whatever Wilder's issues of later, it has to be said that he's done minor miracles with the players at his command. Albeit, the quality of some of the players has to fall at his door.

Disagree with a lot of that. I think we have more than enough good Championship standard players. The manager has a rigid system of play that is too predictable.

 

[chuffer]

What really concerns me at the moment is the serious lack of attacking midfield/winger options that we lack.

Even if we wanted to switch to 4 at the back and play with wide men, I can only think of Woodburn who could play there. Absolutely baffled that we let Holmes go without getting in a replacement first.

I know the loan window is still open, but it would have been ideal to at least bring someone in today to give us all a bit of confidence.

 

[sufcboy95]

It was good for mid table last season. Therefore no reason why it shouldn’t be good enough for mid table this year

 

[robbiez666]

Not quite following what you have posted there mate....? but I was just trying to point out that it is all speculation. If Wigan made a decent offer, maybe Wilder re-considered Evan's importance, especially after those 2 games, and considering that he isn't a new player settling in. Other factors like Norwood potentially coming in or [like you say] some kind of incident could also have influenced the decision.

I get where you're coming from but it seems strange to sell a first team starter for a smallish sum (750k was banded around) and replace him with a loan signing. One for one but you've still got a midfielder on the bench who is worse than the guy you've sold.

 

[Nade]

Evans hasn't gone though, or am I imagining things?

 

[robbiez666]

Evans hasn't gone though, or am I imagining things?

Talk of interest resumed as a loan to buy. Norwood coming in from Brighton.

 

[BigBed]

A fucking big hill in front of us!!

 

[Fraggle Blade]

It was good for mid table last season. Therefore no reason why it shouldn’t be good enough for mid table this year

Apart from no great momentum carrying us forward from a league title and 100 points