Opportunity to obliterate the Pigs

[west_yorks_blade]

Fuck off to Hillsborough

Ah of course. Thank you.
Unless you were giving me an instruction which coincidentally matches the acronym.

 

[BushBlade]

Do people not think that the animosity/banter between the two clubs is what keeps local youths supporting one of the Sheffield clubs and not go glory hunting? If one were to go it might mean youngsters start supporting Successful clubs, like Man U. A path that could lead to a decline in our support, if we are not successful. So, on those grounds, I don't want them to go bust, for the sake of Sheffield football.

I’ve often wondered that myself. It’s the first thing you’re asked when you start school, work, new job etc, when you meet someone from out of town who’s into football ‘Blade or Owl?’
It’s academic anyway, Chancers come and go but they’ll always be twenty odd thousand people willing to pay to watch a club called Sheffield Wednesday or Sheffield United. So those clubs will always exist, in some form or another. They couldn’t kill Wimbledon, no chance of killing a Sheffield club.

 

[Tom Bott]

Fan Of The Higdon.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Fan Of The Higdon.

No need for that ....

 

[Bellypork]

Back to the “expensive means better” mindset.

Yes, it's a bit like buying a fake antique.

The more you pay for it, the more you convince yourself that it's genuine.

 

[Bellypork]

It's like that older brother that you were always fighting with when you were young and then when he leaves home you don't half miss him.

Last week was a perfect time for the Blades. They were fighting over transfer embargoes, radio coverage etc., we'd made some good signings and with a good preseason things were looking bright.

So how disappointing it was to lose against Swansea.

No matter what happens at Hillsborough if we don't deliver then our sneering at their predicament is a complete waste of time.

If we want to obliterate them then the season must start tonight.

I don't envisage any obliteration this season, at least.

Wednesday will probably fix things on the pitch, and in any case Wednesday were always going to lose to Wigan.

They'd have done that in the play-off seasons too.

They did the double over Newcastle, yet lost both home and away games to Burton.

They can't cope with the British up-and-at-'em type managers when there's a foreigner in the dugout.

Wednesday might even have a decent season ... but that's not enough.

To avoid the turdage they must go up, nothing less will do.

It's promotion or bust.

 

[Tom Bott]

Football clubs get special concessions because they are considered part of the community and hence unlikely to fold in a traditional business sense.

I always wondered why my great, great grandfather Tom Bott was not in France but running SUFC back during WW1.

The reason I think is that his business was the biggest fish wholesaler in Sheffield.

Fish and Chip shops were exempt for wartime call up because it was thought that without the 'staple diet' the people would riot.

Though maybe the same applied to those who ran football clubs ?

Anyone here around during WW1 ?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Football clubs get special concessions because they are considered part of the community and hence unlikely to fold in a traditional business sense.

I always wondered why my great, great grandfather Tom Bott was not in France but running SUFC back during WW1.

The reason I think is that his business was the biggest fish wholesaler in Sheffield.

Fish and Chip shops were exempt for wartime call up because it was thought that without the 'staple diet' the people would riot.

Though maybe the same applied to those who ran football clubs ?

Anyone here around during WW1 ?

Possibly because he was too old? Are you mixing this up with fish and chips not being rationed in the world wars?

 

[Stretch]

No, they won't. No chance. They'll drop Hutchinson into defence for a start, and I would guess that they'll probably be able to loan another defender if Westwood goes.

But from what was said last night if the Owls don't go up then things are looking bad. So they could theoretically finish in the playoffs, lose, and still be in the brown stuff.

If you're going to "go for it" you've gotta do what Wolves did, not meekly, half-heartedly do it like Chancer did.

Not sure Westwood leaving would free up enough. It's not just a case of transferring any savings into a pot for incomings, they have to massively reduce their outlay and increase their revenue. Only a couple of big sales would likely scratch the surface and Chanser still seems unwilling to part with his prize assets. I could be wrong but that seems to be the noise many of them are making.

They are still strong up front but lack any depth elsewhere. Think they will still limp into mid table though.

 

[zablade]

Before I start revelling in their possible / probable decline I shall wait to see where we are in ten or so games.

 

[Tom Bott]

Possibly because he was too old?

He doesn't look to be 70 years old though photographs of the time then scanned can be deceptive

His obituary from the Sheffield Daily Telegraph 14 October 1925 makes for interesting reading.
Described as "one of the greatest happiness makers Sheffield United ever had"

https://cloud.acrobat.com/file/9b42d234-9c91-4fb8-bdb1-1c055dda0672

If it opens.

 

[northsomersetblade]

 

[Sean Thornton]

He doesn't look to be 70 years old though photographs of the time then scanned can be deceptive

His obituary from the Sheffield Daily Telegraph 14 October 1925 makes for interesting reading.
Described as "one of the greatest happiness makers Sheffield United ever had"

https://cloud.acrobat.com/file/9b42d234-9c91-4fb8-bdb1-1c055dda0672

If it opens.

I need your credit card number, pin, dob and postcode to open it Tom. PMme though, there's some right dodgepots on here.

 

[grafikhaus]

Do people not think that the animosity/banter between the two clubs is what keeps local youths supporting one of the Sheffield clubs and not go glory hunting? If one were to go it might mean youngsters start supporting Successful clubs, like Man U. A path that could lead to a decline in our support, if we are not successful. So, on those grounds, I don't want them to go bust, for the sake of Sheffield football.

I’ve often wondered that myself. It’s the first thing you’re asked when you start school, work, new job etc, when you meet someone from out of town who’s into football ‘Blade or Owl?’
It’s academic anyway, Chancers come and go but they’ll always be twenty odd thousand people willing to pay to watch a club called Sheffield Wednesday or Sheffield United. So those clubs will always exist, in some form or another. They couldn’t kill Wimbledon, no chance of killing a Sheffield club.

Good points. I've long thought that 'local rivalry' encourages a spirit that keeps teams higher than they should be in the natural order - one 'drags' the other on. Not at the moment, but Sunderland and Newcastle are usually very close - similar with Wolves and Villa. Look at Everton. They're spending like Viv Nicholson. Why? They won't ever be the #1 team even on Merseyside or aspire to anything other than a good run in the Carabao Cup. As somebody has said, it's the cyclical nature of football. Our opponents last Saturday (Swansea) suffered relegation from the PL last season. Bad enough, but made worse when their nearest rivals (Cardiff) swapped places with them. Same with West Brom and Wolves. When I was a kid, it seemed that every kid 'supported' Wednesday. This just encouraged my 'fuck 'em', Bolshie demeanour I've still got.

As for us, our last one-season spell in the PL was at a time when the money was decent but no more. Now, two and three years ago, when Wendy lost the PO Final v Hull and then fucked up on penalties v Huddersfield, that was when they could have consigned us to the shadows for a long, long time. Thankfully - and no credit to United - they didn't.

So local rivalry can be good. Unfortunately, while we continue to be inward-looking, teams like Wolves, Bournemouth, Palace, fucking Burnley etc. march on.

 

[Aston max]

I'm at the fag end of my life, hopefully still got a good few years left in me though. However, I've given up hope of us actually winning anything in my lifetime but I'm still optimistic those bastards will implode into oblivion, in which case i'll still be pegging it with a smile on my face.

I aim to be buried in a cast off piggy shirt cos no way Will Lucifer let me in with that on

 

[Bellypork]

Not sure Westwood leaving would free up enough. It's not just a case of transferring any savings into a pot for incomings, they have to massively reduce their outlay and increase their revenue. Only a couple of big sales would likely scratch the surface and Chanser still seems unwilling to part with his prize assets. I could be wrong but that seems to be the noise many of them are making.

They are still strong up front but lack any depth elsewhere. Think they will still limp into mid table though.

I think he'll stick with what he's got for this season, or maybe until Jan, and see what happens.

You're right, of course, that there's only one way to solve the problem and that's to flog Forestieri.

The problem is that I don't know how much the club have to rake in before Chansiri can spend his money again.

What we've learnt from this mess is that it's either got to be done the Brentford way, or a club has to really really go for it and then accept the consequences.

 

[Tom Bott]

I need your credit card number, pin, dob and postcode to open it Tom. PMme though, there's some right dodgepots on here.

You should be hearing from my Nigerian financial advisor once he gets back from Boro.