Perspective

[Bristol Blade]

David Brooks, at age 20, has scored 3 goals from 30 appearances.

Even Jordan Slew, aged 18 and in one of the worst United teams in living memory, managed to score 3 goals in 11 appearances. Jordan fucking Slew!

Some people need to get a fucking grip.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

It’s not about goals scored though mate. It’s about potential. And Brooks is the best attacking midfielder we’ve had come through the Academy in the last God knows how many years. He’s far better than DCL for example.so I’m afraid we are selling off our finest young talent again.

 

[Stretch]

I have become quite resigned to losing good players now, sad but there is rarely a different outcome with United. But we are not alone in that respect and that should be remembered.

Still, it is a huge shame that we won't see at least one full season of a fully fit David Brooks, the club may feel they have got a good deal but essentially the supporters have been robbed.

I fully understand the anger tonight.

 

[bromtom]

Selling today's David Brooks isn't the issue, it's losing tomorrow's, more likely 2020's David Brooks assuming he continues to prifress, when he's put a bit of muscle on and got some proper experience under his belt.

I'm sort of seething but my Dad has been telling me for years it's part of being a United fan, and I've lived through a few shit deals myself so I've got that Sheffield United Transfer Bollocks callous nice and built up.

I'm just glad we've got a manager who won't sugar coat shit and sell you it as chocolate ice-cream, I'd like to hear what he has to say about it all.

 

[Keef Chedwyn]

It’s not about goals scored though mate. It’s about potential. And Brooks is the best attacking midfielder we’ve had come through the Academy in the last God knows how many years. He’s far better than DCL for example.so I’m afraid we are selling off our finest young talent again.

How long can you dine out on potential though?
Really good players are already doing it regularly at 20.

 

[Bert]

How long can you dine out on potential though?
Really good players are already doing it regularly at 20.

The great ones at 17.

 

[Pinchy]

The great ones at 17.

Scoring in World Cup Finals...

£12m + £3m + sell-on for a kid who has been all potential (and he’s got plenty) but little substance so far is a very difficult one to refuse.

The only relevant question is whether we’ll have a better team for next season than the last. At the moment, nobody is in a position to answer that question, though we are already ‘fucked for ten years’ according to one expert.

Much depends on how much Tufty will be allowed to spend. It seems to me that ‘most of it’ is the least one should expect. But it’s not yet time for ‘fire and fury’

 

[8lade]

David Brooks, at age 20, has scored 3 goals from 30 appearances.

Even Jordan Slew, aged 18 and in one of the worst United teams in living memory, managed to score 3 goals in 11 appearances. Jordan fucking Slew!

Some people need to get a fucking grip.

Shittest comparison ever.
Do you even understand the purpose of comparisons?

 

[Bristol Blade]

Scoring in World Cup Finals...

£12m + £3m + sell-on for a kid who has been all potential (and he’s got plenty) but little substance so far is a very difficult one to refuse.

The only relevant question is whether we’ll have a better team for next season than the last. At the moment, nobody is in a position to answer that question, though we are already ‘fucked for ten years’ according to one expert.

Much depends on how much Tufty will be allowed to spend. It seems to me that ‘most of it’ is the least one should expect. But it’s not yet time for ‘fire and fury’

100% this.

 

[Bristol Blade]

Shittest comparison ever.
Do you even understand the purpose of comparisons?

Two academy graduates, at similar ages, with similar strike rates. Who would be a better comparison? Brooks isn’t an out-and-out striker I’ll grant you, but given that he plays as an attacker why is it an unfair comparison?

 

[pommpey]

It's bollocks.

He's a real talent, one who has been wrapped in cotton wool, laid off, 'ill', benched, shown in brief moments and contracted to keep us lot quiet and happy. Meanwhile, the strategy is to sit and wait until the first half decent offer comes along and cash him in.

And anyone who really believes the money generated from him will be reinvested needs to account for the mysteriously vacant sell on bonusses we were meant to have for Kyle Walker and Harry Maguire. Whilst teams like Forest are buying and loaning and strengthening from abroad and our board are happy that football fans' attentions are slaked by the World Cup, holidays and the sunshine, jack shit is happening down at S2.

Where's t'munneh?

pommpey

 

[Slug]

So it looks like the deal is worth £15m...
Does anybody have the list of players that have been sold from the Championship for £15m or more?
This is a genuine query btw as I honestly don’t know the list but i am very intrigued to have a comparison to reference from with all the claims that we have undersold him?

 

[8lade]

Jesus fucking Christ!
Sorry mate (and sorry I have to explain) one was a moderate striker but the other is the most creative talent at the club for near on 40 years.
To put it a different way:
Varadi
Benjamin (very similar to Slew)
Edwards
Mendonca
Sharp
Murphy
Adams
Calvert-Lewin
all as good as or better than Slew (I must've missed some too)
But Brooks is the most creative since Currie

 

[s4-blade]

Infering from people who should know (wit for example in the Alan Biggs Twitter comments) and not the bollocks ITKers like the Spanish accountant, Wilder will be allowed to spend the fee. Therefore, we’ve got the best deal out of this, we’re already well stocked in the midfield and attacking midfield departments with plenty of quality, and he did nothing when played up top at the end of the season.

Yes he’s got potential, he might be a player in a few years and we’ve got a sell on clause to protect us against that. But you’ve got to live in the present as a club, and if we are serious about having a crack at promotion then selling him for extra cash to sustain that push is ABSOLUTELY the right thing to do. I heavily suspect that may have been part Wilder’s plan anyway.

The kid isn’t all he’s cracked up to be.

 

[Danetheblade]

Jesus fucking Christ!
Sorry mate (and sorry I have to explain) one was a moderate striker but the other is the most creative talent at the club for near on 40 years.
To put it a different way:
Varadi
Benjamin (very similar to Slew)
Edwards
Mendonca
Sharp
Murphy
Adams
Calvert-Lewin
all as good as or better than Slew (I must've missed some too)
But Brooks is the most creative since Currie

Maybe so. But brooks isn't anywhere near Currie in terms of ability. Currie oozes class on his day. He was the best player my stepdad has ever seen. Same again for his dad. I can't use myself in that as I wasnt around when he was. But just hearing about him.. and seeing clips. I know he was miles above brooks is and probably ever will be.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Jesus fucking Christ!
Sorry mate (and sorry I have to explain) one was a moderate striker but the other is the most creative talent at the club for near on 40 years.
To put it a different way:
Varadi
Benjamin (very similar to Slew)
Edwards
Mendonca
Sharp
Murphy
Adams
Calvert-Lewin
all as good as or better than Slew (I must've missed some too)
But Brooks is the most creative since Currie

More creative than Hodges? Really.

 

[Keef Chedwyn]

Jesus fucking Christ!
Sorry mate (and sorry I have to explain) one was a moderate striker but the other is the most creative talent at the club for near on 40 years.
To put it a different way:
Varadi
Benjamin (very similar to Slew)
Edwards
Mendonca
Sharp
Murphy
Adams
Calvert-Lewin
all as good as or better than Slew (I must've missed some too)
But Brooks is the most creative since Currie

What's he created?

 

[Bristol Blade]

Jesus fucking Christ!
Sorry mate (and sorry I have to explain) one was a moderate striker but the other is the most creative talent at the club for near on 40 years.
To put it a different way:
Varadi
Benjamin (very similar to Slew)
Edwards
Mendonca
Sharp
Murphy
Adams
Calvert-Lewin
all as good as or better than Slew (I must've missed some too)
But Brooks is the most creative since Currie

Obviously all those players are better than Slew, that’s my entire point! It’s easy to look back with hindsight to call him ‘a moderate striker’, but at the time he was sold no one knew how good Slew would be. Just like no one knows now how good Brooks may or may not be. For people to be throwing their toys out of the pram at the thought of him being sold is ridiculous.

 

[Danetheblade]

What's he created?

One of the biggest meltdowns this forum has ever seen! Minus the dean Hammond moment. The good days.

 

[8lade]

More creative than Hodges? Really.

Glynn? On his day he was good but 4 times a season(at best otherwise just functional), come on Brooks did that shouldering glandular fever and won games with some sweet magic let alone his touches that left us ecstatic.

 

[Danetheblade]

Glynn? On his day he was good but 4 times a season(at best otherwise just functional), come on Brooks did that shouldering glandular fever and won games with some sweet magic let alone his touches that left us ecstatic.

Alan Woodward.. that is all.

 

[Pinchy]

More creative than Hodges? Really.

Sabella?

 

[8lade]

What's he created?

Seriously fella do you even watch United?
Goals out of near nothing, moments of magic against 2 of our greatest rivals

 

[8lade]

Alan Woodward.. that is all.

Woodward was here before Currie and was more a functional, blast it type player.

 

[Danetheblade]

Woodward was here before Currie and was more a functional, blast it type player.

Irrespective. He was still a superior player compared. Not to mention the pin point accuracy of his passes. Could hit a pin from the opposite end of the pitch

 

[Danetheblade]

Ooo! Ched Evans before he was convicted wrongly. That guy was smashing them in left, right and centre. Let's imagine he got cleared. I'd be more pissed off about selling a player who was dominating teams consistently. How many goals was it..? 30 something.

 

[tomtheblade]

I understand the logic behind taking the money and re-investing it. If that is what we actually do.

The trouble is that we just always seem to take this route. I wouldn't mind if sometimes we sold and at times we held out, but it really seems like it's always the same story. Of course, holding onto young talent doesn't always work but just for once let's see what happens when we do. If anyone can name any occasions when we actually did this I'd be interested to hear?

The closest example I can think of where we actually did this was with Tonge, albeit I don't think he was as talented as Brooks, nor that there was ever a concrete offer for him -that I'm aware of. His career didn't pan out as well as it might've done, but he was a key part of the squad that got us into the prem and almost kept us there. I really think Brooks could play a similar or greater part given the chance.

 

[dc_blade]

Seriously fella do you even watch United?
Goals out of near nothing, moments of magic against 2 of our greatest rivals

Well, one great goal in a big match against Leeds. Hardly out of nothing--Mark Duffy made it with a wonderful pass. One goal that he admitted (I think) was a fluke against Millwall. A nice finish against Burton, following excellent work down the right by Baldock. Again, not of nothing or anything near it.

A big part in one of Lee Evans's goals against Middlesborough. An excellent performance on Bouncing Day. Flashes of promise in a handful of other games.

The kid has bags of potential but his impact on our season was not massive was it?

 

[Caveblade]

I am sad that I have watched United since the early 70's and we have always sold our best players. It leads to the success that we have enjoyed in that period, i.e. Fuck all.

I know there are the big McCabe supporters on here, but he has consistently flogged the family silver on an annual basis. Those who think Wilder will get a significant amount of the revenue are deluded.

I am truly gutted at this sale, just as I was at the sales of Naughton and Walker who we should have built a team around.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

I understand the logic behind taking the money and re-investing it. If that is what we actually do.

The trouble is that we just always seem to take this route. I wouldn't mind if sometimes we sold and at times we held out, but it really seems like it's always the same story. Of course, holding onto young talent doesn't always work but just for once let's see what happens when we do. If anyone can name any occasions when we actually did this I'd be interested to hear?

The closest example I can think of where we actually did this was with Tonge, albeit I don't think he was as talented as Brooks, nor that there was ever a concrete offer for him -that I'm aware of. His career didn't pan out as well as it might've done, but he was a key part of the squad that got us into the prem and almost kept us there. I really think Brooks could play a similar or greater part given the chance.

Tonge was better AND younger than Brooks when he first broke into the United team.