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Bladesthorpe said:
Just about to come on RS to comment on boardroom unrest.
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In the 13 min interview the boardroom unrest was a small part of what was a very interesting interview, however as usual its the soundbite which the media want. They want to make it sound like he’s at the end of his tether.

Personally i find it embarrassing that the bbc want to make a big thing out of this when wilder was discussing many other more important and interesting points
 
Did Chris reveal any new information on the board issue or was it just the same old cant comment line?
 
Suomi_Blade said:
Did Chris reveal any new information on the board issue or was it just the same old cant comment line?
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“I’ll be honest, there’s uncertainty. I’ve not had any direction on where we are going really. “I don’t want to get too much into it. But obviously I’m a planner. I have to plan because that’s what we’ve done since we walked through the door; medium and long-term. “But there hasn’t been (any directives) and there has to be, pretty quickly as well, to give us a chance to get the maximum out of what we’re going to do for next year.”
“Everybody wants that solution,”. “I should imagine both the owners do as well to be fair. I shouldn’t imagine they are particularly enjoying what is happening either.”
 
nopigfansintown said:
“I’ll be honest, there’s uncertainty. I’ve not had any direction on where we are going really. “I don’t want to get too much into it. But obviously I’m a planner. I have to plan because that’s what we’ve done since we walked through the door; medium and long-term. “But there hasn’t been (any directives) and there has to be, pretty quickly as well, to give us a chance to get the maximum out of what we’re going to do for next year.”
“Everybody wants that solution,”. “I should imagine both the owners do as well to be fair. I shouldn’t imagine they are particularly enjoying what is happening either.”
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Thanks dude, appreciated
 
He is trying to put pressure on the owners to sort it out and sort it out quickly or we will have missed the opportunity to sign players who he no doubt has lined up. If this is the case we may as well write off next season, and if that happens and Wilder has any decent offer to move on we leave ourselves very exposed.
I suggest our owners have to Sort it by the end of June or all recruitment plans will be on hold resulting in CW being pissed off and being tempted to leave and I would not blame him. I would however make my feelings known to McCabe who has proven time and again that he is clueless when it comes to managing the affairs of SUFC.
How can he possibly introduce a guy as a partner and not confirm his level of investment or the terms of any deal for either of them to buy the other out?
Yes he has invested money into the club but has received some back in the form of signing over club assets etc. and he has been the architect of his own financial losses as he made all the decisions. In no other business do you throw the dice and then get your investment back if you make the wrong decisions. Why should SUFC and McCabes handling of its affairs be any different
 
bertieblade said:
He is trying to put pressure on the owners to sort it out and sort it out quickly or we will have missed the opportunity to sign players who he no doubt has lined up. If this is the case we may as well write off next season, and if that happens and Wilder has any decent offer to move on we leave ourselves very exposed.
I suggest our owners have to Sort it by the end of June or all recruitment plans will be on hold resulting in CW being pissed off and being tempted to leave and I would not blame him. I would however make my feelings known to McCabe who has proven time and again that he is clueless when it comes to managing the affairs of SUFC.
How can he possibly introduce a guy as a partner and not confirm his level of investment or the terms of any deal for either of them to buy the other out?
Yes he has invested money into the club but has received some back in the form of signing over club assets etc. and he has been the architect of his own financial losses as he made all the decisions. In no other business do you throw the dice and then get your investment back if you make the wrong decisions. Why should SUFC and McCabes handling of its affairs be any different
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Why would the owners of a private company disclose the details of any shareholders agreement they had?
 
Sean Thornton said:
Why would the owners of a private company disclose the details of any shareholders agreement they had?
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I am not asking them to disclose the details of any shareholders agreement I am referring to Insinuations made by McCabe in his recent meeting at BDTBL that HRH had not provided his expected level of investment.
In addition If the terms of HRH investment and terms for potential price for one or other to assume overall control had been clearly laid out there would be no cause for delay.
It appears that McCabe has had second thoughts about allowing HRH to take overall control and HRH does not want the property, surely a decent contract should take account of these eventualities.

I do not wish to know the terms of the deal, I just want them to finalise a deal, or we run the risk of losing the best opportunity of making substantial,steps forward that McCabe has stumbled across for a long time
 
"I can't make plans whilst the owners are fannying about , which obviously hinders me trying to move my Club forward"
Subtext
' If I can't move my club forward , what am I doing here ?'
 
The value of the club and it's assets would rise in line with promotion to the premiership , as this is unlikely now maybe an end is in site to the impass .
Whether it be McCabe or the prince both know that to stay at loggerheads will damage the future of the club And risk losing Wilder.
I expect a conclusion soon after its certain which division we are in next year, Both know the window of opportunity is short ,time is of the essence now.
 



bertieblade said:
I am not asking them to disclose the details of any shareholders agreement I am referring to Insinuations made by McCabe in his recent meeting at BDTBL that HRH had not provided his expected level of investment.
In addition If the terms of HRH investment and terms for potential price for one or other to assume overall control had been clearly laid out there would be no cause for delay.
It appears that McCabe has had second thoughts about allowing HRH to take overall control and HRH does not want the property, surely a decent contract should take account of these eventualities.

I do not wish to know the terms of the deal, I just want them to finalise a deal, or we run the risk of losing the best opportunity of making substantial,steps forward that McCabe has stumbled across for a long time
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It's highly unlikely a "decent" contract doesn't set out various scenarios on which a price may be calculated for the shares, dependent on the trading figures and more importantly league position. The property price etc will be subject to professional valuations. As it's now moved to litigation then clearly someone has changed their mind and/or tried to move the goalposts. I really don't understand what you expect them to say at the moment.

Irrespective of our current position we know KM doesn't have the money and as Forbes magazine put the Princes wealth at £144m a few years ago, we know he doesn't appear to have either. That's a bigger concern for me.
 
Chali 2na said:
Who would that be then?
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It's one bloke who sits in the South Stand. I've heard him say it. He was frightened to death we'd go up at the end of September.

He's best mates with the bloke who believes in cap doffing to the board but he's doesn't go anymore because of his shameful actions of celebrating a goal once by standing up and cheering, forgetting he should know his place.
 
Mr Scudamore, Mr Dyke, thanks for the meeting at such short notice.

We have decided that we're not quite ready for promotion, so would like to hand the opportunity over to someone who is even less ready for promotion, give them the 100m and let them have a crack instead.

Yeah, ok.
 
Scooter_mcgavin said:
Mr Scudamore, Mr Dyke, thanks for the meeting at such short notice.

We have decided that we're not quite ready for promotion, so would like to hand the opportunity over to someone who is even less ready for promotion, give them the 100m and let them have a crack instead.

Yeah, ok.
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Spot on, we have a pitch, we have a stadium, we have staff and players on the books. Throw in £100m and 3 months to spend it in. I'd reckon we would've made a fist of it and at the very, very, very worst, matched Derby County's points tall of 11 in '07/08.
 
As ever an excellent interview.

Short, medium and long views and plans. Love it.

Individuals and group better for the experience for next season.

Random thought. This often talked about ' intensity every day in training'. Has it all taken it's toll as the season developed? Wilder acknowledges the players have been 'physically and mentally tired' lately.
 
Chali 2na said:
Who would that be then?
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It is a view expressed by some on here since before the start of the season and throughout the season. It is a view I’ve always disagreed with because I think things can change very rapidly in football and there’s absolutely no guarantee that any team will be stronger and have a better season next season than the current one. So, to me, it’s all about making the most of the opportunities whilst they are there. “Consolidation” is something best considered when in turmoil, not when in a strong position, as we have been for most of this excellent season.

Anyhow, that’s all looking rather academic now as it seems inevitable we will remain in this division next season. That’s no mean achievement and I’ve really enjoyed it. I just want to see us take a lot of belief from what we’ve achieved and for Wilder to get the backing he deserves to help the club take a further step forward next season. But, it’s going to be very difficult for him to do that as things stand. I just hope my fears don’t come true and we find ourselves at this time next season, looking back on this one with deep regret that we didn’t just push the boat out a bit further, because that’s what I think we should have done.
 
Woodwardfan said:
As ever an excellent interview.

Short, medium and long views and plans. Love it.

Individuals and group better for the experience for next season.

Random thought. This often talked about ' intensity every day in training'. Has it all taken it's toll as the season developed? Wilder acknowledges the players have been 'physically and mentally tired' lately.
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I wish he'd stop using the word 'group'. It's either 'squad' or 'team' or 'starting 11' or 'the players'. :)
 
Cerberus Blade said:
It is a view expressed by some on here since before the start of the season and throughout the season. It is a view I’ve always disagreed with because I think things can change very rapidly in football and there’s absolutely no guarantee that any team will be stronger and have a better season next season than the current one. So, to me, it’s all about making the most of the opportunities whilst they are there. “Consolidation” is something best considered when in turmoil, not when in a strong position, as we have been for most of this excellent season.

Anyhow, that’s all looking rather academic now as it seems inevitable we will remain in this division next season. That’s no mean achievement and I’ve really enjoyed it. I just want to see us take a lot of belief from what we’ve achieved and for Wilder to get the backing he deserves to help the club take a further step forward next season. But, it’s going to be very difficult for him to do that as things stand. I just hope my fears don’t come true and we find ourselves at this time next season, looking back on this one with deep regret that we didn’t just push the boat out a bit further, because that’s what I think we should have done.
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Exactly, look how Reading's 'consolidation and strengthening' has gone since their playoff final defeat.

Bet the fans and Jaap are delighted they didn't go up last year.
 
Scooter_mcgavin said:
100m changes that for any team if spent correctly.

It's ridiculous for anyone to turn down an opportunity for that. I seriously don't get the whole 'we're not ready for promotion' bollocks.
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A realisation that we're not ready, presumably based on current form, is hardly the same as these mythical "fans" not wanting us to go up or being joyous that we hadn't.

It's often those who got giddy earlier in the season who are now doom and gloomers saying the squad isn't good enough and bizarrely suggesting it's the fault of other fans who took an optimistic but guarded view rather than looking up pubs to go to on PL away trips just three months into the season.
 
Cerberus Blade said:
It is a view expressed by some on here since before the start of the season and throughout the season. It is a view I’ve always disagreed with because I think things can change very rapidly in football and there’s absolutely no guarantee that any team will be stronger and have a better season next season than the current one. So, to me, it’s all about making the most of the opportunities whilst they are there. “Consolidation” is something best considered when in turmoil, not when in a strong position, as we have been for most of this excellent season.

Anyhow, that’s all looking rather academic now as it seems inevitable we will remain in this division next season. That’s no mean achievement and I’ve really enjoyed it. I just want to see us take a lot of belief from what we’ve achieved and for Wilder to get the backing he deserves to help the club take a further step forward next season. But, it’s going to be very difficult for him to do that as things stand. I just hope my fears don’t come true and we find ourselves at this time next season, looking back on this one with deep regret that we didn’t just push the boat out a bit further, because that’s what I think we should have done.
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I understand where you're coming from, though I'd like to point out that hoping for a season of consolidation doesn't mean you dont want the club to be promoted. It's like the difference between hoping it won't rain and hoping for a perfect day...

I have seen plenty of posters (before the season started) hoping for consolidation, but I'm yet to see anyone say they'd rather we consolidate rather than go up.
 
SwissBlade said:
In the 13 min interview the boardroom unrest was a small part of what was a very interesting interview, however as usual its the soundbite which the media want. They want to make it sound like he’s at the end of his tether.

Personally i find it embarrassing that the bbc want to make a big thing out of this when wilder was discussing many other more important and interesting points
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Yes yes Swiss......But what about the unrest! Who has more money, McCabe or the Bog Roll Prince? Which one is the pantomime villain? Who would win in a fight?

We need to know! o_O
 
SwissBlade said:
In the 13 min interview the boardroom unrest was a small part of what was a very interesting interview, however as usual its the soundbite which the media want. They want to make it sound like he’s at the end of his tether.

Personally i find it embarrassing that the bbc want to make a big thing out of this when wilder was discussing many other more important and interesting points
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I get where you're coming from Swiss but I listened to the interview and the boardroom stuff was the biggest thing he said from that interview.and therefore was worthy of the headline. What else could the headline say? Leon's back for Saturday! That might have being valid but its likely to be a dead rubber and the boardroom debacle is the most important thing we sort out.

You can tell from the interviews that Wilder is being very diplomatic and I would guess he is desperate for it to be sorted out as it effects his team planning for next season and much more.
 



mosbolad said:
Yes yes Swiss......But what about the unrest! Who has more money, McCabe or the Bog Roll Prince? Which one is the pantomime villain? Who would win in a fight?

We need to know! o_O
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Fight - McCabe, He's got too much speed and power and has been seen sparring with Joshua at EIS in between training sessions with Mark Aston down at the Eagles.

Pantomime Villain - McCabe. The prince is already got the part of the Genie
 
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